Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

Eyes Down Field

Floyd via DQ

Sweet Science wrote:

A MMA fighter wouldnt have once punch KO power with boxing gloves on .

Sweet Science wrote:

I know where you are coming from . Once a boxer connects flush with a 4oz glove the fight is over.

walshb wrote:

Not even the force of the shot, but the chances of scoring it effectively to get the KO. Boxers specialize in punching/hand striking. Yes, MMA offers differences in how that is implemented, but I still feel that a trained boxer has the better chance to score it in the octagon than the MMA fighter has to score it in the ring...

Wait. You guys assume that McGregor will actually land something? The best boxers in the world with the fastest hand speed couldn't hit Floyd. What hope does Conor have.

Brief_Lives

Floyd via DQ

I can?t believe this fight is going ahead... what sort of cash must Conor be getting to take a beating?

as someone said in the thread previously, it could be the ruining of the UFC (I know, I know, boxing rules)...

Ultimate Seduction

Brief_Lives wrote:

as someone said in the thread previously, it could be the ruining of the UFC (I know, I know, boxing rules)...

How though. If Cristiano Ronaldo loses a game of golf to Rory McIlroy, would that be the ruining of soccer?

CIARAN_BOYLE

vapor trails wrote: »

The only reason why I mention this is because everyone is saying what a fighter Floyd is. Possibly the best of all time. What I'm backing here is age. I'm just turning 34 now, I feel old as ****. McGregor is 6 years younger than me and Floyd is 6 years older. If you dissect this purely based on boxing repertoire the conversation will only lead to one conclusion. I want someone to dissect for me the impact of being 40 and getting old as opposed to 28 and coming into prime.

Similarly I would like if someone talked to me about the difference made by 11 oz gloves vs the 4 oz gloves typically used in ufc.

Preferably I would feel that the lighter gloves in ufc make ufc fighters look like better hitters because their punches appear impressive.

asteroids over berlin

Brief_Lives wrote: »

I can?t believe this fight is going ahead... what sort of cash must Conor be getting to take a beating?

as someone said in the thread previously, it could be the ruining of the UFC (I know, I know, boxing rules)...

Circa 70 - 80 million dollar$$$$, obviously a very smart move from mcgregor. You will never see him in the UFC again after this, why would he bother. His riding a wave, a somewhat fortunate one as he got lucky (arguably)in a few fights, fair play to him. Overall this is an embarrassment to boxing and i'll not be watching apart from the news maybe ha

I urge people not to take part in this fiasco, all you would be doing is lining the wallets of 2 already rich guys and of course the entourage associated with them too. don't contribute to the cashcow!

realdanbreen

shamrock55 wrote: »

Im 40 and feel as strong and fit as i was when i was 30, mayweather is a million times fitter and well maintained then me im sure his age wont be a factor the only thing would maybe it might effect his speed and reactions slightly,his power or stamina i dont think would be effected

You may well be feeling strong and fit but there simply is no way that a 41 year old retired boxer should beat a 29 year old professional McGreggor. it's really only a freak show that very few true sporting fans would have any interest in. No doubt a few plane loads of Ole Ole Ole merchants will make the trip.

Brief_Lives

Floyd via DQ

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

How though. If Cristiano Ronaldo loses a game of golf to Rory McIlroy, would that be the ruining of soccer?

thats a fair enough comment, maybe I was running away with myself.
But unlike golf and soccer, MMA and boxing are combat sports.

54and56

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

How though. If Cristiano Ronaldo loses a game of golf to Rory McIlroy, would that be the ruining of soccer?

Yeah, because soccer and golf are so similar to MMA and boxing.

The reason the FM fight is going ahead is because both codes are perceived as being sufficiently similar that competitors, with some focused training, can step from one code into the other and perform at a similar level to their "home" code so to speak.

Same doesn't really apply to soccer and golf now does it?

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Floyd should be able to put his feet up now till August and roll out of bed on the day of the fight and still win within 4 rds max..

Sweet Science

Conor on points

So this is actually happening .

I would assume Gerovanta will be fighting for more exposure

HONKEY TONK

Conor via DQ

As I said in the MMA forum

Floyd will decide how many seconds, minutes, rounds he wants the fight to last. He will also decide what type of punishment will be dished out to McGregor.

myshirt

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

Yeah, because soccer and golf are so similar to MMA and boxing.

The reason the FM fight is going ahead is because both codes are perceived as being sufficiently similar that competitors, with some focused training, can step from one code into the other and perform at a similar level to their "home" code so to speak.

Same doesn't really apply to soccer and golf now does it?

It wouldn't be the strangest combination to be honest.

Remember, what did you get when you combined a ballerina with a b#stard.

Seve Ballasteros. That's what you got.

One of the finest golfers of his time.

Live sophisticated nimbleness of a ballerina, combined with the hard nosed ruthless thuggery of a b#stard. He carried over that good technique, co-ordination, and discipline and became clinical.

Eyes Down Field

Floyd via DQ

Floyds age is a non-factor in my opinion. This is a man who takes extremely good care of his body, doesn't drink or smoke and always stays in fighting shape. Unlike most boxers his age, because of his amazing defensive ability, he has only been hit a handful of times in his entire career and none hard enough to ever knock him down. I don't think Conor will be able to land a single clean punch on Floyd. And because Conor won't be able to defend himself, he will effectively be Floyds punching bag. Can Conor take the barrage of jabs, straight rights, left hooks and right hooks to the body? for 6 minutes, or even 3?

Sweet Science

Conor on points

Think i will stay away from the MMA Forum . There are actually real people posting that stuff

Ultimate Seduction

Brief_Lives wrote:

thats a fair enough comment, maybe I was running away with myself. But unlike golf and soccer, MMA and boxing are combat sports.

Golf and soccer use balls. Both played on grass. Doesn't matter if they're combat sports, Still entirely different sports.

Ultimate Seduction

Je_suis_Jean wrote:

Same doesn't really apply to soccer and golf now does it?

Right so, Soccer and GAA would be the best comparison. If a famous GAA player joined Man Utd and was ****, that would not be "the ruining" of GAA

Dirty Dingus McGee

realdanbreen wrote: »

You may well be feeling strong and fit but there simply is no way that a 41 year old retired boxer should beat a 29 year old professional McGreggor. it's really only a freak show that very few true sporting fans would have any interest in. No doubt a few plane loads of Ole Ole Ole merchants will make the trip.

Really?

I think that's pretty much what is going to happen in this fight.

yabadabado

Floyd via DQ

realdanbreen wrote: »

You may well be feeling strong and fit but there simply is no way that a 41 year old retired boxer should beat a 29 year old professional McGreggor. it's really only a freak show that very few true sporting fans would have any interest in. No doubt a few plane loads of Ole Ole Ole merchants will make the trip.

Of course there is every reason a 41 year-old beats a 29 year old.Mayweather is a true great who by all accounts keeps himself in extremely good shape and was unbeatable against top level pro boxers until recently the other is a fella who isn't a top level fighter,has never had a pro fight and afaik didn't win even national titles when he did box underage.

I'm sure Mayweather would still hold his own against plenty of fighters in his old divisions.

Mellor

Draw

Donald Trump wrote: »

Mellor wrote: »

But how it is degrading? You aren't explaining why, just repeating the same thing.

It degrades the sport by turning it into a novelty or freakshow rather than necessarily degrading the participants as individuals. Although you could argue that it degrades Mayweather for taking it on in the first place. Let him come back and fight the current top ranked boxer at his weight.

It degrades MMA by turning it into a freakshow? That makes no sense.

I assume you didn't understand the question and are talking about it's impact on boxing - which is irrelevant to MMA

Ultimate Seduction

Mellor wrote:

I assume you didn't understand the question and are talking about it's impact on boxing - which is irrelevant to MMA

They are afraid of the humiliation IF Conor somehow won, that's the only reason I can see for this outrage.

Sweet Science

Conor on points

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Right so, Soccer and GAA would be the best comparison. If a famous GAA player joined Man Utd and was ****, that would not be "the ruining" of GAA

Kevin Moran was pretty good though as was Denis Irwin

Sweet Science

Conor on points

Mellor wrote: »

It degrades MMA by turning it into a freakshow? That makes no sense.

I assume you didn't understand the question and are talking about it's impact on boxing - which is irrelevant to MMA

It doesn't affect either sport really . I dont blame either man for taking the fight it would be stupid not to . My issue is people not seeing it for what it is . Its a complete money grab for all involved . Plain and simple .

Puibo

I hope there is a lot of opinionated posters in this thread that will end up eating their words!!!

Brief_Lives

Floyd via DQ

What are the chances Mayweather beats the bejaysus out of McGregor for 5 rounds, then Conor goes mad and knees him in the head....:D

Sweet Science

Conor on points

Puibo wrote: »

I hope there is a lot of opinionated posters in this thread that will end up eating their words!!!

How so ?

Mellor

Draw

Brief_Lives wrote: »

thats a fair enough comment, maybe I was running away with myself.
But unlike golf and soccer, MMA and boxing are combat sports.

People are using other sports to make a point. But you don't even need to change the sports.

James Toney lost embarrassingly in MMA to a 46 year old, formerly retired, Randy Couture. By your logic, that was embarrassing for boxing, the end of the sport, etc.

I find that opinion bizarre. Especially from a boxing fan.

yabadabado

Floyd via DQ

Puibo wrote: »

I hope there is a lot of opinionated posters in this thread that will end up eating their words!!!

Care to explain ?

Shurimgreat

Mohammad Ali arguably made the sport more of a circus with his exhibition fights against wrestlers and the like. Still considered a great who brought boxing to a new level, as has Mayweather.

Fighters like Tyson and Haye with their antics caused more damage to boxing.

Too Tough To Die

Floyd via DQ

Mellor wrote: »

People are using other sports to make a point. But you don't even need to change the sports.

James Toney lost embarrassingly in MMA to a 46 year old, formerly retired, Randy Couture. By your logic, that was embarrassing for boxing, the end of the sport, etc.

I find that opinion bizarre. Especially from a boxing fan.

James Toney was an irrelevance by that point to be fair. McGregor is the biggest name in the history of his sport and at the peak of his powers. Big difference.

Puibo

yabadabado wrote:

Care to explain ?

Yeah, I just think people have have already written off one of the fighters already which I don't think is right.