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Some of the comments on this thread show a shocking level of naivety.

Il Fascista wrote: »

It's not a matter of a lack of information, it's a lack of a desire to be receptive to it.

I used to believe that but so many liberals have their fingers deep in their ears most of the time and so I think with some of them it's quite genuine..... like in the case of Ben Affleck for example, you can see he actually believes the nonsense he's coming out with, to the point of anger. Virtue signalling is a strong impulse for the guy, I get that... but I do think he's being sincere.. bless him.

wonderfullife wrote: »

Rightly or wrongly, the way the allies divvied up the world after the defeat of Hitler, all the land redistribution etc is at the root of all the current problems.

For people saying Islam is this horror religion full of nutcase ideology, where were all terrorist attacks until the late 1970's?
Nowhere. It's when the Soviet Union and USA started messing in the region with the proxy Cold War that things got out of hand.

Islamic forces in some form or another have been attacking Europe for a long time before the 1970's.
To paint this as a 20th century problem in historically inaccurate.

Willie Stroker 1976 wrote: »

Seen her mam on Good Morning Britain this morning And again in Sky News, got attached too it and been checking 2-3 times an hour throughout the day. just seen Olivia was confirmed dead not long ago, devastated , not only for Olivia but for everyone affected. Scary that this is happening on our doorstep too. Can only hope it wont make it's way to Ireland.

Hopefully it never comes here to be honest but these kinda of attacks by the Darwin Award Nominee Brigade are certainly building up animosity towards the Muslim community even though the vast majority are harmless.

That being said there's plenty of people out there wondering why is it always what seems to be rejects from the Muslim community always doing this? No other ethnic group seemingly has this problem. It's like that community is having issue's integrating into the host society or something.

Honestly its a complicated problem not least because of how insidious it is in targeting people. It's sadly also the kind of problem that has the majority of Europeans feeling justifiably of the view that we shouldn't be taking these refugees either as they're afraid of this happening.

Il Fascista wrote: »

wonderfullife wrote: »

Ben Shapiro is hardly an authority on Islam or without bias - He's a right-wing pundit, former Steve Bannon bff and his target audience are right-wing people.

Granted I actually think he's a reasonable enough guy (at times).

The right are bad, I know, but Ben didn't do the polling.

Polling? You mean the bullshit "facts" he derives from "statistics"?
He "proves" that there are  2.2 million radical muslims living in Britain? How does he do this you might ask? well there are 2.8 million Muslims living there and some poll said that 78% of people wanted cartoonists of Mohammed legally prosecuted.......imagine if he added the people who didn't want them prosecuted but wanted them to be killed......Maybe would bring it up to 2.9 million..
Check his wikipedia page if you'd like to find out more about him and come back and let us know whether you think he does or does not have an agenda

Donald Trump wrote: »

Check his wikipedia page if you'd like to find out more about him

Shapiro proposed expelling the Palestinian population from the West Bank.

Jewish Zionist proposes ethnic cleansing of Muslim population from where they've lived for generations. Yes I wrote Jewish. He's Jewish.

I guess that makes me anti-Semitic?

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Jewish Zionist proposes ethnic cleansing of Muslim population from where they've lived for generations. Yes I wrote Jewish. He's Jewish.

I guess that makes me anti-Semitic?

Perhaps quote him in full no?

The Jews don't realize that expelling a hostile population is a commonly used and generally effective way of preventing violent entanglements. There are no gas chambers here. It's not genocide; it's transfer. It's not Hitler; it's Churchill. After World War II, Poland was recreated by the Allied Powers. In doing so, the Allies sliced off a chunk of Germany and extended Poland west to the Oder-Neisse line. Anywhere from 3.5 million to 9 million Germans were forcibly expelled from the new Polish territory and relocated in Germany... The Germans accepted the new border, and decades of conflict between Poles and Germans ended...if Germans, who had a centuries-old connection to the newly created Polish territory, could be expelled, then surely Palestinians, whose claim to Judea, Samaria and Gaza is dubious at best, can be expelled

Not something I would agree with but too often words are taken out of context to paint someone in the worst light.

Anyway, why are we talking about Jews and the West Bank?

markodaly wrote: »

Perhaps quote him in full no?

I quoted the bit where he's proposing ethnic cleansing of Muslims from the West Bank. Do you support ethnic cleansing?

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

I quoted the bit where he's proposing ethnic cleansing of Muslims from the West Bank. Do you support ethnic cleansing?

So, you admit you are deliberately taking a quote out of context, not only that you are very aware of what you are doing and go ahead regardless in posting it up here because its convenient for you.

Posts like that is indicative in what is wrong with the web today.

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Answer the question: Do you support the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians from the West Bank?

Yes or no?

So this is where you play your games and try to dodge the fact that you are deliberately posting half quotes and half truths as its ideologically suitable for you. Posts like that is what is wrong with the Web.

I already answered the question by the way, I know that you know that but hey, cause enough drama you think you might get away with it.