New York Jets Thread

phatkev · 30-04-2017 02:29PM

The 2017 New York Jets draft class:
Jamal Adams, S
Marcus Maye, S
ArDarius Stewart, WR
Chad Hansen, WR
Jordan Leggett, TE
Dylan Donahue, EDGE
Elijah McGuire, RB
Jeremy Clark, CB
Derrick Jones, CB

So the Jets started off the weekend by drafting two safeties. While I would have preferred they addressed the CB/EDGE position, I cant really complain about Bowles and Co adding Jamal Adams and Marcus Maye to automatically improve one of the worst Safety pairings in the NFL.
Macc spent the next 3 rounds acquiring some offensive talent for new OC John Morton. Stewart is essentially a better version of Jalin Marshall, a shorter shifty receiver that excels in YAC and he was also a major player on Alabama's special teams which is an area the Jets must improve in.
The next 2 picks could turn into absolute steals, Hansen is coming of a fantastic season finishing with 92 catches and 1,249 yards and could be an ideal replacement of Decker if he cant recover from the injuries he sustained last season.
The Jets finally addressed the Tight End position in the 5th round and by all accounts this was a great value pick in a draft that was filled with talent at TE. Leggett has a real chance to come in and become the Jets starting TE.
The rest of the picks consist of an undersized Edge defender that I cant see having much success in the NFL, a Running Back with 3 1,000+ yard rushing seasons so could definitely be some potential there and the last two were spent on two big press cornerbacks so it'll be interesting to see what Bowles can do with them.
Personally I would've preferred if they had addressed the CB and pass rushing position much earlier in the draft. But I cant complain to much as Maccagnan did what he could to upgrade the talent on the roster. There's still a long way to go, but this could be a nice start.

corner back 2 · 30-04-2017 08:27PM

phatkev wrote: »

The 2017 New York Jets draft class:
Jamal Adams, S
Marcus Maye, S
ArDarius Stewart, WR
Chad Hansen, WR
Jordan Leggett, TE
Dylan Donahue, EDGE
Elijah McGuire, RB
Jeremy Clark, CB
Derrick Jones, CB

Hard to disagree that they drafted some good players but can't understand why we drafted a second safety and two wide receivers when there was some really good corner back talent on the board and better tight ends than Leggett. Disappointed that no offensive linemen selected but like the running back pick.

I would love to know what the obsession with wide receivers is. We drafted two and signed another 3 or 4 udfa wide receivers. All seem decent players but no better than what's already on the squad.

phatkev · 01-05-2017 12:01PM

I would love to know what the obsession with wide receivers is. We drafted two and signed another 3 or 4 udfa wide receivers. All seem decent players but no better than what's already on the squad.

I can only assume it's got something with new OC John Morton, he may have wanted to bring in receivers that he thinks are better suited to his system maybe? With Smith been out for the year with an ACL injury, Decker having no return date set yet and Marshall being suspended for the first 4 days I think the WR core will be be Decker(assuming he recovers in time), Enunwa, Anderson, Stewart, Hansen and Peake.

Disappointed that no offensive linemen

The fact that they didn't address this tells me that Macc and Co. think they're set on the o-line, which worries me a little bit! I think they're set at both Guard positions and centre, but its the tackles that worry me. On the Left you've got Beachum who is very similar to last years LT Clady, a good player that cant stay fit and the on the right side you've a combination of Shell/Ijalana which wouldn't exactly fill me full of confidence

midfield dynamo · 01-05-2017 10:35PM

Have to Say, I thought it was a positive draft. MacCagnan said that he was going to build the roster through the draft and traded down for extra picks.

To be honest, this team has so many holes in it that we were never going to be 100% satisfied. And next draft he can go out and get us a Franchise QB, a top level CB and some talent on OL.

I think he's shored up the weakest part of the team and hopefully eradicated being burnt downfield by picking Adams and Maye. He's got us a WR who can get yards after catching the ball and a TE who is a threat downfield and not just a blocker.

I think the fascination with the WRs is that Smith is gone for the season and Decker is likely to be released. So that explains the 2 drafted.

Joe Mixon · 01-05-2017 11:01PM

Jamal Adams is arguably the best players in this draft. The Jets have selected very well in the first round this year.

HigginsJ · 18-05-2017 10:32AM

I see Christian Hackenberg is talking up his improved confidence levels heading into the new season, for me he was the best QB prospect heading into the 2016 draft, he just needed time to rebuild his confidence and work on a couple of issues.

Do you guys expect to see him on the field this year or is there a feeling that he is a sunk cost?

Guffy · 18-05-2017 01:22PM

Joe Mixon wrote: »

Jamal Adams is arguably the best players in this draft. The Jets have selected very well in the first round this year.

No he's not.

phatkev · 18-05-2017 02:21PM

HigginsJ wrote: »

I see Christian Hackenberg is talking up his improved confidence levels heading into the new season, for me he was the best QB prospect heading into the 2016 draft, he just needed time to rebuild his confidence and work on a couple of issues.

Do you guys expect to see him on the field this year or is there a feeling that he is a sunk cost?

First off, I Hated the pick! I think the Jets fell in love with his physical attributes and ignored the fact that he sucked in his last season at Penn State

I dont think he'll be the starter come week 1 anyway. He's never taken a NFL snap not even in preseason and his OC and QB coach from last season got sacked which isn't exactly ideal for a young QB in dire need of development.
I expect McGown to be the week 1 starter. But if he turns into the sh1t show most fans expect, I wouldn't be surprised to see Hack get a shot down the line.
It will be interesting to see how he gets on in camp, but I wont get to hyped on him because this time last year he was even struggling to complete screen passes

phatkev · 18-05-2017 02:26PM

gufc21 wrote: »

No he's not.

You're not a fan? I've watched a good bit of his tape since he was drafted and I was impressed. He's an exciting prospect with a good head on his shoulders.
And the consensus among draft "experts" is that he's one of the safest picks in this years class.

Guffy · 18-05-2017 02:42PM

phatkev wrote: »

You're not a fan? I've watched a good bit of his tape since he was drafted and I was impressed. He's an exciting prospect with a good head on his shoulders.
And the consensus among draft "experts" is that he's one of the safest picks in this years class.

Sorry, silly short answer. He can argue he's best at the position but you can't say he's arguably the best player of the draft. There is no way any player in the draft could even come close to going 1 ahead of Garrett. I knoww it was probably just a throw away comment but there is no argument there.

LuckyLloyd · 19-05-2017 12:04PM

HigginsJ wrote: »

I see Christian Hackenberg is talking up his improved confidence levels heading into the new season, for me he was the best QB prospect heading into the 2016 draft, he just needed time to rebuild his confidence and work on a couple of issues.

Do you guys expect to see him on the field this year or is there a feeling that he is a sunk cost?

On what basis?

HigginsJ · 19-05-2017 12:17PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

On what basis?

Arm talent, toughness, able to work through reads, ideal size, good athleticism and the way he played in the pro style offense in his 1st year.

He was screwed over by Franklin (in a number of ways, some of the reports that Franklin had no interest in guys that he did not recruit) and a shocking lack of talent, especially on the line in his last year at Penn State. He took a beating, I think he was sacked over 40 times each of his last 2 years. His confidence must have been in the gutter after those last 2 years.

My opinion last year is that I would rather him in the 2nd than Goff/Wentz at the top of the 1st and that he just needed time to rebuild. He has had that year now, hopefully he has used it well.

KrustyUCC · 19-05-2017 02:52PM

Ryan Fitzpatrick lands with Tampa Bay Buccaneers

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000809854/article/ryan-fitzpatrick-lands-with-tampa-bay-buccaneers

LuckyLloyd · 20-05-2017 10:07PM

HigginsJ wrote: »

Arm talent, toughness, able to work through reads, ideal size, good athleticism and the way he played in the pro style offense in his 1st year.

He was screwed over by Franklin (in a number of ways, some of the reports that Franklin had no interest in guys that he did not recruit) and a shocking lack of talent, especially on the line in his last year at Penn State. He took a beating, I think he was sacked over 40 times each of his last 2 years. His confidence must have been in the gutter after those last 2 years.

My opinion last year is that I would rather him in the 2nd than Goff/Wentz at the top of the 1st and that he just needed time to rebuild. He has had that year now, hopefully he has used it well.

Bizarre to be honest. He simply sucked his senior season and he was an apparent disaster all of last year on the practice field. He'll never be worth a damn in the NFL.

LuckyLloyd · 20-05-2017 10:09PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Ryan Fitzpatrick lands with Tampa Bay Buccaneers

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000809854/article/ryan-fitzpatrick-lands-with-tampa-bay-buccaneers

Good move for both parties.

phatkev · 23-05-2017 09:56PM

Asked if he wants to stay a #NYJ, Sheldon Richardson said yes, added locker room is better now. Why? "15 reasons why it's better."

good to see Sheldon is maturing :rolleyes:

midfield dynamo · 23-05-2017 10:03PM

phatkev wrote: »

good to see Sheldon is maturing :rolleyes:

Maybe the feud with Marshall was the reason for his poor performances last year? Hopefully we'll see a better Richardson.

Oh look, there's a pig flying.......!!

phatkev · 23-05-2017 10:17PM

midfield dynamo wrote: »

Maybe the feud with Marshall was the reason for his poor performances last year? Hopefully we'll see a better Richardson.

Oh look, there's a pig flying.......!!

Kacy Rodgers has said he'll play a lot more 3 technique this year, so I'd expect him to perform a lot better. He was sh1t last year cause he was playing OLB, thats on the coaches not him imo

hots · 24-05-2017 09:41AM

phatkev wrote: »

good to see Sheldon is maturing :rolleyes:

He's a tool. Even if Marshall stole his jockstrap he can keep it in the locker room. I won't be upset to see him leave, even if he has the potential to go on and be great elsewhere.

nasty_crash · 24-05-2017 04:23PM

what an idiot - he should be more concerned about his own form and effort - he was called into question too many times last year and pointing fingers is a lazy excuse!

L.S.F · 31-05-2017 06:53PM

Anyone who's been to MetLife, what's the best seats for the NFL? Endzone, Endzone level 2 and whole top tier in our price zone.

Have been to Wembley, Croker and Lansdowne for games but wondering if that stadium has good/bad areas.

phatkev · 31-05-2017 11:51PM

L.S.F wrote: »

Anyone who's been to MetLife, what's the best seats for the NFL? Endzone, Endzone level 2 and whole top tier in our price zone.

Have been to Wembley, Croker and Lansdowne for games but wondering if that stadium has good/bad areas.

Ive been behind the posts once and felt the higher up the better, but it can get very high and steep so if your not a fan of heights or suffer vertigo it might not be for you! The last couple of times I've being in the 340 section of the upper tier and its been a great atmosphere and you're pretty much on the halfway line so you get a great view (Probably not the best section to bring kids though!!)

Apparently there are some restricted views though, these seem to be the main offenders

Avoid Section 201, Row(s) 15-18 - Support beams located near the aisles at Row 14 will limit the view from seats at the ends of the rows near the top of Section 201. To reduce the risk of an obstructed view in Rows 15-18, avoid the low and high numbered seats and opt for seats near the middle of the row (seats 10-20 will eliminate the view obstruction).
Avoid Section 226, Row(s) 15-18 - Support beams located near the aisles at Row 14 will limit the view from seats at the ends of the rows near the top of Section 226. To reduce the risk of an obstructed view in Rows 15-18, avoid the low and high numbered seats and opt for seats near the middle of the row (seats 10-20 will eliminate the view obstruction).
Avoid Section 202B, Row(s) 15-18 - Support beams located near the aisles at Row 14 will limit the view from seats at the ends of the rows near the top of Section 202B. To reduce the risk of an obstructed view in Rows 15-18, avoid the low and high numbered seats and opt for seats near the middle of the row (seats 10-20 will eliminate the view obstruction).
Avoid Section 225B, Row(s) 15-18 - Support beams located near the aisles at Row 14 will limit the view from seats at the ends of the rows near the top of Section 225B. To reduce the risk of an obstructed view in Rows 15-18, avoid the low and high numbered seats and opt for seats near the middle of the row (seats 10-20 will eliminate the view obstruction).
Avoid Section 227B, Row(s) 15-18 - Support beams located near the aisles at Row 14 will limit the view from seats at the ends of the rows near the top of Section 227B. To reduce the risk of an obstructed view in Rows 15-18, avoid the low and high numbered seats and opt for seats near the middle of the row (seats 10-20 will eliminate the view obstruction).
Avoid Section 228B, Row(s) 15-18 - A support beam near the right aisle and a large wall near the left aisle will limit the view from certain seats in rows 15 and higher in Section 228B. To reduce the risk of an obstructed view in Rows 15-18, avoid the low and high numbered seats and opt for seats near the middle of the row (seats 10-20 will eliminate the view obstruction)

phatkev · 01-06-2017 01:23PM

Apparently the Jets have traded Calvin Pryor to the Browns for fcuking Demario Davis!!!! It doesnt get any more Jets than that! Replace one sh1t show with another :rolleyes:

hots · 01-06-2017 05:36PM

phatkev wrote: »

Apparently the Jets have traded Calvin Pryor to the Browns for fcuking Demario Davis!!!! It doesnt get any more Jets than that! Replace one sh1t show with another :rolleyes:

Apparently something to do with the browns taking on more cash from Pryors contact or something?

Doesn't make much sense to me though.

FreeOSCAR · 02-06-2017 11:14PM

It's fine - season is going to be calamitous. Demario Davis....wheel route coverage....:pac:

Pryor was such a disspointment. Awful angles and an inability to cover half decent tight ends. He will be out of the league altogether in 2 years i'd say.

phatkev · 02-06-2017 11:59PM

FreeOSCAR wrote: »

It's fine - season is going to be calamitous. Demario Davis....wheel route coverage....:pac:

haha this is the first thing that came to my head when I saw the trade

helimachoptor · 04-06-2017 05:44PM

Leonard Williams doesn't like teammates messing with women

https://instagram.com/p/BU7PbdOhiiv/

phatkev · 04-06-2017 09:13PM

Nice to know at least one Jet has a brain.

corner back 2 · 06-06-2017 06:31PM

David Harris to be released - terrible treatment of longest standing player. Looks like a long season trying to get no 1 pick next year.

phatkev · 06-06-2017 09:08PM

corner back 2 wrote: »

David Harris to be released - terrible treatment of longest standing player. Looks like a long season trying to get no 1 pick next year.

Was kind of half expecting it at the beginning of the offseason, but I thought once he'd made it to this stage of the year he was safe! And the fact that Davis is going to be his replacement is sickening.

The timing of the move was really ****ty on the Jets behalf and no way to treat a player thats gave it his all for the last 10 years. Why not let him go 3 months ago and give him a chance in free agency?

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