Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

Watching the face offs for tomorrow's fights made me think ; if Conor doesn't get to turn up with the two belts (as he doesn't cos clearly Aldo is the rightful featherweight champion) at his next UFC face off he missses that historical trick.
I can see why he wants to break away if they decided to Take that honour off him

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

He has never defended a belt, he was a champion and didnt defend his belt while doing 2-3 other fights, can hardly complain he got his belt taken

He won the fw cw belt then he won the last cw belt
Then he was offered UFC so he did what was nessicary to replicate that in UFC
He earned his fw UFC shot and won that decisively then he wanted the lw shot but clearly there was something up with dos anjos as he didn't want the fight so he fought and lost to Diaz at a stupid weight
Then instead of the easy defence at 145 or the easy go at 155 he went against Diaz again at 170 and if you can't see why he wanted 170 again to give diaz the best chance again then you don't see what I see
So he bet Diaz in the rematch/war and then destroyed the lw UFC champ
Who is it you think he ducked cos I don't see it
Aldo ducked him and then messed around with tests and he's the fw champ
You think Aldo is the more deserving champ ?

Deleted User wrote: »

This time last year I would have said for sure Conor is the deserving champion he knocked Aldo dead. In saying that Conor can't stay champion forever if he isn't defending the belt. Aldo fought the No. 1 contender in Frankie and won easily..... Aldo is the deserving champ at this moment in time.

The division really needs Max or Yair to win the title this year to move on from Conor. Aldo is the legitimate champion currently but that 13 second loss hangs around the division like a smelly fart. Ok, Conor can still say "I beat Max too" which is fair but enough time has passed on that one.

OR.... failing that.... Aldo needs to stop playing it so safe in all his fights. 7 Decision wins in his last 10 victories. If he wants people to forget about the Conor defeat he needs to start finishing fights. A highlight KO of Holloway or some slick submission and fans will begin to move on.

Recency bias is a real thing. If he starches Max with an uppercut and lays him out, people will get excited about Aldo and 145lbs again.

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Groundhog day

As I said; I was just thinking about the pageantry of the fake weigh ins and the stare downs and I realised Conor had thought about doing that with two belts.
It's all just a show apart from the fights themselves so I get why he's determined to do something that's bigger than the UFC.

I know he's not the double champion because the champion is whoever the UFC says is the champion
But he's the lineal double champ and while he has never defended a belt Aldo has never won the UFC belt he was handed it by default twice

EagererBeaver wrote: »

That's utterly daft saying he's the lineal champion. He clearly had no intention of ever fighting at 145 again. Is Rocky Marciano the lineal heavyweight champion? By your logic, Mayweather is the lineal champion in about five different weight classes.

If Aldo never won the belt, and was therefore illegitimate, what does that do to your logic for McGregor being a double champion given it was Aldo he beat for it?!

Aldo was lineal champion that's why they gave him the UFC belt the first time. The rest shows you don't understand what a lineal champion is.

Mellor wrote: »

The champion is whoever holds the current belt. Simple.


Aldo had to fight Edgar for the belt.
Come on, you know that. Pretending otherwise undermines your whole point.


Well technically he is. A lineal title can't be stripped. If he never fights again, then the title lineage will be retrospectively restarted with Aldo from UFC200. But until that happens, it's Conor.

Also, depending on when you track it from. Conor held the lineal title before he beat Aldo.

I understand who the UFC champion is and if he's not going to fight at 145 again then he should have resigned the belt. My point is that he missed getting his day out as double belt holder and that it hit home when I was watching the stare downs
Aldo defeated frankie for the interim belt I thought ? Then Aldo got the belt by default and then they created another interim belt which to me looks like fcuking around for the sake of trying to fix the division.
Many methods had Holloway as the lineal champion iirc and others had Aldo
Conor is the lineal fw champion as he defeated them both
I agree that whoever wins between Aldo and Holloway deserves the belt but I think that Aldo as interim and Holloway as no 1 contenter was the way to go with Conor loosing his belt once the fight happened
It was 11 months from when he won till when he was stripped so if Aldo doesn't fight Holloway in UFC 212 (which is being billed as champion x champion it seems) should he be stripped ?
What then?

Mellor wrote: »

Whether he walks out with two belts or not has no bearing on the achievement for me.
If he really wants it, well then he physically owns two belts.


The belt Aldo won at UFC 200 is the title no, he wasn't given a new belt when Conor was stripped.
I agree about Max v Aldo being the first fight that has really meant anything.


It was Dustin Poirier I think.
The Shooto lineal belt end up with him. But there is some confusion over the weight limits of a patch in the middle.

thats right it was poirier, i was thinkin that holloway was very new at the time to be the shooto champ
no confusion now
so if aldo turns up at 212 i'm happy enough but if he dosen't i'll be interested in what happens
by rights they should strip him an make max champ but that's a bit silly really

for the casual mma watchers i think it would mean something and there are load of Conor fan that are just Conor fans

personally i hope Max beats Aldo and would love if Conor Came back to 45 to fight him if it happened
they could do trinity set up with mcgreggor v max at 45 and then at 55 and then for both belts at 55 (i suppose they could do it with aldo well)
i think Conor won't wanna fight Diaz again cos his concrete brain is the pefect weapon aginst Conor's left hand and i think that superfights are an inevitability these days

finglashoop wrote: »

Quick google found this

http://www.fightmatrix.com/lineal-championship-histories/

Mcgregor is double champ and jones instead of cormier

Doesnt seem to list women.

Ill put a quick rundown:

Bas rutten is lineal heavyweight as he never lost it. He went inactive.

Frank shamrock at light heavy - inactive

Both retired as champs

The rest is litttered with inactivity / leaving divison

gracie went inactive first at hw

Is Alvarez v McGregor available anywhere for free with decent quality