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Teen who sued soccer club for trauma after he was dropped loses case

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  • Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why is he being called a kid and a child, he's 18 so he is an adult.
    Because he was legally a child at the relevant time...presumably about 16.
    He looks like a fella who was pampered by Mammy and Daddy all his life
    "looks like"?

    The action taken by the family speaks volumes as to their personality. I don't know what can possibly be garnered from anyone's appearance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Stupid little bollix.

    Even more d1ckheadish father


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,194 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    He was 13 at the time.

    So what?

    He's a man now and is in court over not getting picked to play a soccer game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    Parchment wrote: »
    Poor son and wife. The dads behaviour smacks of a controlling person - im sure this is only the tip if the iceberg with this man.

    sounds to me like the mother was the initial instigator

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/teen-who-sued-soccer-club-for-trauma-after-he-was-dropped-from-team-loses-case-35660200.html
    Mr Mawe said Mr Cook's mother arrived at the match and once she realised her son wasn't playing there was a "huge commotion."


    she is every bit as bad as the father....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,643 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Surely at some stage over the course of the 4/5 years this was waiting to go before the courts someone in the family would have realised how mental the action was.

    I'd say the family are a complete laughing stock now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭jonon9


    jackwigan wrote: »
    Can we as a society agree to ban the term "snowflake"?

    Makes me twitch a little every time I read it.

    I prefer generation sugar cookie :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Fact is kids are much more resilient than we give them credit for.

    I coach youth rugby and over the years I've seen teams lose important matches by heartbreakingly thin margins, or matches lost because one kid makes a very visible mistake......and afterwards the kids would be inconsolable.......

    .......usually for about 10 to 15 minutes.....then they're grand.

    It's the parents who brood on such losses......sometimes for months. I've heard parents talk about 'grudge' matches when we've played teams that have beaten us....and the kids are like "wtf is he on about?"

    And as for the term "snowflake" it perfectly sums up domed millenials, but not this kid.....if he was the one who decided to take proceedings it would be a perfect description, but it sounds like he wasn't given a whole lot of choice and the paper has dibs him no favours by identifying him.....it's the Da whose photo should be out there.

    EDIT: actually I see the Indo have used a photo of the parents and the kid, the IT just has the lad's photo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭Miaireland


    I really hope that they have to pay all costs. I do feel sorry for the child. What kind of upbringing is he getting?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    He's only 18 now and presumably the case was going on a while.

    Very much sounds like the father being the dominant influence.
    This. Civil cases like this take several.years to get to court. When it started, his parents would have been suing on his behalf. Even when he turned 18 I doubt he was the one doing any speaking in meetings with the legal team. Just signed where he was told and shut up.

    Remember that the parents have been conditioning him for 5 years about how he's been wronged, about how they're going to get the coach back. He's been blinded by his parents to the reality of what happened.

    Even if he did have a mind of his own, do you think an 18 year old has the balls to turn to his parents and say, "Sorry Da, i know you've spent ten grand and 5 years on this, but i think you're wrong so I'm dropping the case"? I certainly wouldn't have had the balls at 18 and my Dad is an easy going sane man, not a controlling nutjob.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    The parents were hoping for a big payday.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    The psychologist that diagnosed this kid with PTSD needs to have their license to practice reviewed. Not only is it extremely unfair on a family to give them a false diagnosis, but it is extremely negligent to make one. There is absolutely no way the psychologist could have deemed this kid meeting the criteria for PTSD at any point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,643 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    The parents were hoping for a big payday.

    I doubt any junior clubs would have much or any funds.Would the club have to fold if the case went against them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭Taxburden carrier


    Anita Blow wrote: »
    The psychologist that diagnosed this kid with PTSD needs to have their license to practice reviewed. Not only is it extremely unfair on a family to give them a false diagnosis, but it is extremely negligent to make one. There is absolutely no way the psychologist could have deemed this kid meeting the criteria for PTSD at any point.
    Google that psychologist


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Anita Blow wrote: »
    The psychologist that diagnosed this kid with PTSD needs to have their license to practice reviewed. Not only is it extremely unfair on a family to give them a false diagnosis, but it is extremely negligent to make one. There is absolutely no way the psychologist could have deemed this kid meeting the criteria for PTSD at any point.

    Criterion A for PTSD is that the trauma is outside the normal range of human experience e.g. being shot at, raped, a bad car crash. Getting dropped from the team shouldn't count, even in the unlikely event that he actually has other PTSD symptoms like flashbacks, hypervigilance etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    yabadabado wrote: »
    I doubt any junior clubs would have much or any funds.Would the club have to fold if the case went against them.

    The club would have to have insurance so its most likely if they (the claimant) were successful the insurer would have picked up the tab.

    Its hard enough for small sports clubs to get insurance due to slips/trips/falls never mind adding this kind of nonsense to the list of potential liabilities.

    Thankfully sense ruled out.

    I feel very sorry for the kid in all this, the parents are clearly mental.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Anita Blow wrote: »
    The psychologist that diagnosed this kid with PTSD needs to have their license to practice reviewed.
    Assuming of course she has one.

    She's not registered with the Irish professional psychologists body.

    For a start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Just picturing the kid as he inadvertently catches sight of a premier league game in the pub....

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Donal55


    I love the smell of napalm in the dressing room.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,363 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    The parents were hoping for a big payday.

    That's the bottom line here.
    They weren't looking to punish a bully, treat ptsd, restore their sons morale, or any other old nonsense.

    They were looking for cold hard cash.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,149 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    The father was coach of the team, new ones took over. He calls a vote of no confidence in them. Son gets injured in summer, being eased back into games. Parents get the hump, kid gets transferred to new club mid season, daddy becomes coach of new team. Chap is now playing with Waterford united so is obviously some way talented. Doubt he missed premiership football over missing one game when he was 13.

    Ridiculous case and shouldn't have got as far as it did.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,708 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Sounds as much the Father as the kid. Anybody that has children playing football will know the type of nuts that you can encounter.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Lyle Lanley


    I spent my childhood on the sidelines, where's my money?!

    Feel for the coaches, volunteering your free time shouldn't land you in court.


  • Posts: 4,824 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Actually feel very sorry for the young man here. Obviously it was a ridiculous court case but he couldn't have instigated that process by himself. His parents seem like a nightmare and his peers will probably give him a fierce slagging over it.

    Not to mention sanctimonious online commentators who probably get hard reading about this case because they can (mis)use their beloved "snowflake" word again. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,690 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    As a person whose bread and butter is made in a career in football coaching it's great to see this result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭Paulzx


    My kid was the last one picked for a kick around on the road the other day. He'll never get over it

    Should i sue the 11yr olds who didn't pick him or their parents?

    What was the name of that "psychologist " again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭DonkeyDick1992


    I was just about to post about this
    . I seen in an article that the father was the couch before the other man was so obviously jealousy got the better.. And I think Ireland is now the new country for sueing.. everyday there is a story on the paper about a stupid case.. It's ridiculous what some people are like.. Money money money...

    I pity the poor young lad,just imagine the bullying he has to go through for his parents greed,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    I was just about to post about this
    . I seen in an article that the father was the couch before the other man was so obviously jealousy got the better.. And I think Ireland is now the new country for sueing.. everyday there is a story on the paper about a stupid case.. It's ridiculous what some people are like.. Money money money...

    I pity the poor young lad,just imagine the bullying he has to go through for his parents greed,

    I think he was more of a pouffe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,053 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    On a vaguely related note, an ironic thing I've noticed (my kids play schoolboy football in Dublin with games all over) is the most badly-behaved coaches and kids I've witnessed have been far more likely to be from really well-to-do areas :D

    Essentially both of the kids at the centre of the tale were 'Sun shines out of their rectums' kids. As in mammy and daddy treated em like royalty.
    The best test of how spoilt one of them was was to do a 'yo momma so....' and watch him get peed off.
    Like, seriously, if he was sitting down to dinner with a plate of spuds next to him-his mom would peel em for him.. And this went on well into secondary school.
    Neither was well off-but both were 'mommy and daddy think I'm great-so I am'.
    I went to school with a lot of em.
    Don't get me wrong, I know our parents love us dearly-but I never got the 'you're perfect just the way you are' growing up-I got the 'what the hell man?'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭pontoonz


    he'd be at home at liverpool


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Howard Clean Shortcake


    Apparently the parents over the years by his teachers/their mates were advising/pleading with them to drop the case over the years for the sake of the child


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