Teen who sued soccer club for trauma after he was dropped loses case

The Highwayman

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/teen-who-sued-soccer-club-for-trauma-after-he-was-dropped-from-team-loses-case-35660200.html

Link from today's Indo. The boys father is looney tunes from what I understand from the story.
PTSD from being dropped from an U13 team. Snowflake alert.

uch

I'd be due about 3.5 million after all the teams I was dropped from down the years

McDermotX

This country.

RobertKK

Life is going to be very hard for some people.

GoneHome

This is actually worse than the "knocked knee off table" case, jesus wept

hytrogen

uch wrote:

I'd be due about 3.5 million after all the teams I was dropped from down the years

Drinks on you back in the clubhouse so!

jackwigan

Can we as a society agree to ban the term "snowflake"?

Makes me twitch a little every time I read it.

razorblunt

It's a bit of a harsh thread title.
Plain to see the kid's Dad has a lot to answer for and needs to take a step back, as suggested by the judge also.

andekwarhola

Sounds as much the Father as the kid. Anybody that has children playing football will know the type of nuts that you can encounter.

hytrogen

jackwigan wrote:

Makes me twitch a little every time I read it.

Do you want to build a snowman?

biko

Seems the dad is a "my way or the highway" kinda guy.

jester77

What a role model that dad is. Poor young lad, can only imagine the slagging he has been getting because of this.

Red Eyes

You would feel sorry for the kid, all he wanted to do was play football with his friends and his dad ruined it for him.

dinorebel

jackwigan wrote: »

Can we as a society agree to ban the term "snowflake"?

Makes me twitch a little every time I read it.

You poor little snow.......................oh sorry

gramar

jester77 wrote: »

What a role model that dad is. Poor young lad, can only imagine the slagging he has been getting because of this.

That'll toughen him up for when he's playing in front of packed stadiums in the premier league.

kfallon

Bunch of cúnts!

DEFTLEFTHAND

Probably more the Dad than the boy. Psycho sports dads are the absolute worst.

I remember being accosted by a psycho dad when I was 14 for shouldering his boy out of the way in a hurling match. Fcuker came onto the field and had intentions to harm me before he was hauled off by other adults.

cml387

I was always picked last for kickabouts at school.
I never recovered from the stigma.
However now I see some hope. $$$$$$$$!!!!!!

The Highwayman

jackwigan wrote: »

Can we as a society agree to ban the term "snowflake"?

Makes me twitch a little every time I read it.

Nope. It perfectly describes these weak minded, self-centred, narcissistic idiots.

Tayschren

Post traumatic stress for not being picked for the team,

ah heeer

pilly

Father totally at fault here. This type lives their own miserable failed soccer career through their children.

Poor child for having a father like that, he'll now be forever known for this especially in Ireland.

seamus

Poor kid. His parents sound like a fncking nightmare. They sound like incredibly entitled gob****es who thought that they were the kings of the club and threw tantrums when their son wasn't getting special treatment.

I expect when he was managing the team, his son got to play every match, a full 90 minutes, no matter how good or bad he was playing, or whether he was in good form, or dying of a cold.

Then he was replaced and lost the head because the new manager refused to give his son special treatment.

I'm glad they got a dose of reality, though my experience of narcissism like this is that they'll just blame the court for being wrong or biased against them. It's never their fault.

Parchment

Poor son and wife. The dads behaviour smacks of a controlling person - im sure this is only the tip if the iceberg with this man.

Skyfarm

there is a fifteen-year-old boy at the center of this story, no doubt he will have to take a lot of stick that isn't his, let's remind ourselves this is where minding mental health comes to the fore

Lu Tze

jackwigan wrote: »

Can we as a society agree to ban the term "snowflake"?

Makes me twitch a little every time I read it.

Snowfleck?

HeidiHeidi

That poor kid :mad:

whoopsadoodles

My kid didn't make a basketball team and telling her when I'd gotten the email was one absolutely horrible experience.

We were actually in a little bit of shock as she's an unbelievable player for her age but it was one hour of trials for this particular team and she badly injured her finger in that hour.

Did I sue? Did I fcuk. Did I try to convince them to give her another chance because she'd been injured? Of course not. And I certainly didn't tell her it was the fault of the people judging the trials either.

What I did do was email the coach, thank him for his time, and ask him for feedback on her performance that day to improve her chances at her next trials. I also brought her to the game she missed out on so that she could cheer her friends on.

I was very positive with her but also told her if she really wanted this, she would need to work extra hard and train extra smart. She upped her game big time and ended up with an invite to play in the states during the summer.

You teach your kids to work for what they want, not to stamp their feet and whinge about whose fault it was that they missed out. You're doing them absolutely no favours in the long run by wrapping them up and molly coddling them like that.

This is completely down to the father, and I wouldn't judge the child on it at all.

TheDoc

Would imagine lots of this stems to the father feeling he has missed out on €€€€ from his son going across the water.

Seen it happen a plenty, albeit never going to court over.

Guy:Incognito

Skyfarm wrote: »

there is a fifteen-year-old boy at the center of this story, no doubt he will have to take a lot of stick that isn't his, let's remind ourselves this is where minding mental health comes to the fore

He's 18.

storker

jackwigan wrote: »

Can we as a society agree to ban the term "snowflake"?

Makes me twitch a little every time I read it.

It makes me twitch every time I hear what they come out with. When describing this kind of nonsense, the word is a good one. It's the father who it applies to, of course, for all we know the kid has been "persuaded" to go along with it.

alchemist33

Costs yet to be awarded. Hopefully the father has to pay them all because I doubt a local underage soccer team is rolling in it. If not, all the kids will suffer when the club goes under.

padd b1975

Classic Corkman hubris it has to be said.

MarcusP12

How on earth does this even get to court?!!

seamus

MarcusP12 wrote: »

How on earth does this even get to court?!!

A bank account never refused money. You can get anything to court if you're willing to pay the legal costs no matter how ludicrous your legal team tells you it is.

MarcusP12

Parchment wrote: »

Poor son and wife. The dads behaviour smacks of a controlling person - im sure this is only the tip if the iceberg with this man.

It's probably the da alright driving the thing but I doubt the mother is a passenger in this either who deserved our sympathy...article I read said that there was a commotion at the match in question when she realised he was dropped...think that's what I read anyway!

pjohnson

The son was clearly happy enough to go along with it.

MarcusP12

seamus wrote: »

A bank account never refused money. You can get anything to court if you're willing to pay the legal costs no matter how ludicrous your legal team tells you it is.

This case seems to suggest that alright but who's to say their legal team were against the case in the first place? If they felt like that surely they just wouldn't take the case? I've been down this type of road before on after hours and gotten into knots though so going to be very careful on this one🙄!!

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

1) Get dropped from the team

2) Have an absolute bellend for an oul fella

3) ????????

4) PROFIT!!!

godtabh

pjohnson wrote: »

The son was clearly happy enough to go along with it.

With over bearing parents he could be conditioned to do what he is told. He probably doesn't have an original thought in his head.

seachto7

As Timmy Ryan would say "he'll know all about it next year, when he's playing under 14s"

NIMAN

Its time those who fail to win these cases are hit for the costs, otherwise this nonsense will never end.

There has to be a deterrent of some kind to clear the courts for real cases.

Once a few nutters start losing a few thousand over a stupid claim, they might stop.

andekwarhola

pjohnson wrote: »

The son was clearly happy enough to go along with it.

He's only 18 now and presumably the case was going on a while.

Very much sounds like the father being the dominant influence.

I've seen and heard of stuff going on re: parents of schoolboy footballers that beggars belief. Threats and even assault once.

Some 'parents' just live and compete vicariously through their children.

The really awful thing about it as well is that they could have finished off the club financially if they'd won, leaving so many kids in limbo without a team.

storker

NIMAN wrote: »

Its time those who fail to win these cases are hit for the costs, otherwise this nonsense will never end.

There has to be a deterrent of some kind to clear the courts for real cases.

Once a few nutters start losing a few thousand over a stupid claim, they might stop.

The only problem with that is that people could end up afraid to take cases even if justified, because of fear of having to lose their home in order to pay costs, which can mount up very quickly. That doesn't mean, however, that they couldn't at least make some contribution based on their income and assets.

RabbleRouser2k

Growing up, thank God my parents didn't push me into sports-I was crap at em and I would have been more rubbish trying for a team. But the absolute twankers (not a typo, an amalgamation)you would encounter-the kids and the dads, were unreal.

One of the most 'memorable' occassions I remember was coming into sixth class one day-and seeing the class 'gobsh!te' sporting a massive black eye-like, seriously black. Didn't know what happened-found out a few days later.
Basically, he'd been at training, for the football club, days before-one half of the team versus the other. Well, the dad who was training em that day, his kid was on the team. The GS and the trainer's kid were involved in a scuffle on the pitch, like not a fight, but a tackle-the dad said the tackle was a foul, the GS said it wasn't-and was holding the ball. He started running around the pitch with the ball, saying it wasn't a foul and should play on. The dad ran after him, and punched him right in the eye. The Dad was in his 40s, the kid was maybe 11, possibly 12. Needless to say, there was was talk between fathers, but the GS's dad didn't do too much-he'd had a heart attack that year.

The other guy continued to train the club.

This kid-tbh, it sounds like the dad was a total idiot. Like, what did he expect-money? His son to be reinstated on the team? He'd be the biggest lad on the under 13s, thats for sure. He should take a note out of the pages of people like Michael Jordan. Dropped from the basketball team as a teen, he pushed himself to be better than the others. Now he's a superstar.
Or Kieran Donaghy. Or Didier Drogba-they pushed themselves, never gave up.

This guy sounds like he'd be the 'you're a total lesbian!' if a girl said no to him.

andekwarhola

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Growing up, thank God my parents didn't push me into sports-I was crap at em and I would have been more rubbish trying for a team. But the absolute twankers (not a typo, an amalgamation)you would encounter-the kids and the dads, were unreal.

One of the most 'memorable' occassions I remember was coming into sixth class one day-and seeing the class 'gobsh!te' sporting a massive black eye-like, seriously black. Didn't know what happened-found out a few days later.
Basically, he'd been at training, for the football club, days before-one half of the team versus the other. Well, the dad who was training em that day, his kid was on the team. The GS and the trainer's kid were involved in a scuffle on the pitch, like not a fight, but a tackle-the dad said the tackle was a foul, the GS said it wasn't-and was holding the ball. He started running around the pitch with the ball, saying it wasn't a foul and should play on. The dad ran after him, and punched him right in the eye. The Dad was in his 40s, the kid was maybe 11, possibly 12. Needless to say, there was was talk between fathers, but the GS's dad didn't do too much-he'd had a heart attack that year.

The other guy continued to train the club.

This kid-tbh, it sounds like the dad was a total idiot. Like, what did he expect-money? His son to be reinstated on the team? He'd be the biggest lad on the under 13s, thats for sure. He should take a note out of the pages of people like Michael Jordan. Dropped from the basketball team as a teen, he pushed himself to be better than the others. Now he's a superstar.
Or Kieran Donaghy. Or Didier Drogba-they pushed themselves, never gave up.

This guy sounds like he'd be the 'you're a total lesbian!' if a girl said no to him.

On a vaguely related note, an ironic thing I've noticed (my kids play schoolboy football in Dublin with games all over) is the most badly-behaved coaches and kids I've witnessed have been far more likely to be from really well-to-do areas

overshoot

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

What I did do was email the coach, thank him for his time, and ask him for feedback on her performance that day to improve her chances at her next trials. I also brought her to the game she missed out on so that she could cheer her friends on.

I was very positive with her but also told her if she really wanted this, she would need to work extra hard and train extra smart. She upped her game big time and ended up with an invite to play in the states during the summer.

Great advice. If he feels being dropped cost him a professional career he simply didnt have the attitude to make it across the water even if he was as skillful as Messi. The dad sounds intolerable too.

Similar happened with Seamus Coleman as Sligo, manager changed in close season, (Rob McDonald) said your not in my plans and should go out on loan. Coleman said he would fight for his place. Forget the circumstances, but McDonald had one competitive game in charge, Paul Cook came in and teenager Coleman wasn't long nailing a starting spot and well... id say you know the rest. Attitude is everything in professional sport.

The_Valeyard

cml387 wrote: »

I was always picked last for kickabouts at school.
I never recovered from the stigma.
However now I see some hope. $$$$$$$$!!!!!!

To be fair your kicking skills were shocking.

kfallon

Parchment wrote: »

Poor son and wife. The dads behaviour smacks of a controlling person - im sure this is only the tip if the iceberg with this man.

The wife sounds as bad, according to the article she threw a sh?tfit at the new manager when the son was dropped for a game.

F?ck the lot of them!

Liam McPoyle

There is no compensation culture in this country.



Solicitors do not take on frivolous claims in the hope of making money from them as they are all stand up guys.



Gimme a fxuking break.

razorblunt

The lad has made a statement on twitter,maintains they were trying to expose the bullying aspects.

The_Valeyard

I feel sorry for coaches of young teams these days. You hear many stories of parents acting like children having tantrums at games now. It's ridiculous. You are a parent, act like one. If your child is not selected, the teams looses, or someone makes a mistake, cause you know their human, it does not give you an excuse to shout abuse at the coach or the kids. If you cant behave like an adult from the sidelines, then f*ck off somewhere else.