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100 Bets to Broke Festival Fever

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    National Hunt Chase

    I've been looking at this race quite a few times in the last few days and I just can't get past Arbe De Vie at a huge looking price for one with such potential. I'm not sure how many of these would be capable of a very unlucky second in a top 2m4 handicap hurdle of a mark of 144 on Good Ground. He has also finished 4th at the festival in the Alfred Bartlet when he looked a sure stayer even when that was on softer ground. He again ran well enough in the Coral Cup last year when possibly left with a bit too much to do but still finished in 10th only 5 lengths of the winner. I think he will be better on decent ground here and if his run behind the subsequently very good Acapella Bourgeois can be taken at face value, where he was only 4 lengths away in 2nd, this form stacks up well against the other Irish horses at the top of the market here. He jumped really well in that race and the whole package of a Good Ground stayer that can jump and with a bit speed is just about perfect for this race where the first lap is often slow enough. I'll go for a win bet now at the huge looking price of 25/1 but might top up again on the day if 4 places are available. Im not that concerned which one Paddy chooses here, but I think he will be making a mistake not to be one the selection unless possibly Bellshill goes for this instead of the RSA.

    2 Points win 25/1 365/VC/betfair


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    Day 1 Overpriced double

    I've had a bit of success with these "I'm having a bad day" accums before at Cheltenham before. These aren't necessarily my picks in the races but I feel there is a double available in a few places that is certainly overpriced. Petit Mouchoir is 7/1 in the Champion Hurdle and Apples Jade is 5/1 in the Mares. Both of these should possibly be fav for both races and as much as I'd be tempted with a bigger EW bet I'll go with a small win double as I can't let it pass at these prices

    1 Point win Double Petit Mouchir & Apples Jade 48/1 Paddy & Betfair 44/1 Sky


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    2:50
    I'm loosing the plot here because i picked A Good Skin earlier while on the boat over and when I eventually get here he has been backed into 25/1 from 33/1 earlier. I still feel he is the value play EW here as he is 3 lbs lower than last years second to Cause or Causes. He is getting weight from nearly everything and has surly been readied for this race all year. I had a bigger bet in mind at the 33/1 price but well reduce it to a standard 1pt EW. I feel the place part is very good with his course form and 5 places.
    1 Point EW 25/1 5 places 365/hills/paddy/vc 6 Places sky


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    5:30
    This race has been wreaking my head as it looks a poor enough renewal. Ive finally settled on Hammersly Lake, who looks to have the best form in the race. He will be suited by the ground and has good festival form in the past with a  decent run in the coral cup last year. He seems overpriced here at 18/1. Runs behind Le Prezien and Top Notch look the best form on offer.
    1 Point win 18/1 sky/hills/vc/stan


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    The only bet left from my Subscription service is MTOY, he still looks a bit of value now even at 20/1 in the ground.
    Champion Hurdle Ante-Post

    Last year I went for My Tent or Yours ew and he ran a great race after a long absence. I think he is being underestimated again this year. He is one of the only horses in the field with genuine Champion Hurdle form which is all that counts in this race. He hasn’t been great this year but between soft ground and not having the race run to suit at Christmas I think he could well be a different horse after a break at the festival. Of the shorter priced horses half won’t run and the other half are just out of novice company and don’t even look like the top of the novice tree from last year either. 50/1 NRNB is massive now with Faugheen out and when he turns up here he is a 20/1 shot at best. I’d be going for a bigger bet if there were more bookies at the 50/1 but we’ll leave it at 1 pt ew.
     
    1 Point EW 50/1 NRNB totesport/Fred


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    The only bet left from my Subscription service is MTOY, he still looks a bit of value now even at 20/1 in the ground.
    Champion Hurdle Ante-Post

    Last year I went for My Tent or Yours ew and he ran a great race after a long absence. I think he is being underestimated again this year. He is one of the only horses in the field with genuine Champion Hurdle form which is all that counts in this race. He hasn’t been great this year but between soft ground and not having the race run to suit at Christmas I think he could well be a different horse after a break at the festival. Of the shorter priced horses half won’t run and the other half are just out of novice company and don’t even look like the top of the novice tree from last year either. 50/1 NRNB is massive now with Faugheen out and when he turns up here he is a 20/1 shot at best. I’d be going for a bigger bet if there were more bookies at the 50/1 but we’ll leave it at 1 pt ew.
     
    1 Point EW 50/1 NRNB totesport/Fred


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    2:10


    Ive been flipping coins as to which of the big priced horses to go for in the EW market here and the dart has landed on A Hare Breath. His last run needs to be forgiven but that is always the case with a 50/1 shot. He strikes me as one that could run well in this race and can pick up the pieces to run into a place. He had a great run in the  Greatwood hurdle this year and on ratings 50/1 is simply too big. He looks a 4 or 5/1 shot to place here so 12/1 is easily big enough to make a bet.

    1 Point EW 50/1 1/4 odds 365 50/1 1/5 odds vc/paddy/betfair/coral


  • Registered Users Posts: 749 ✭✭✭Bozo Skeleton


    Not much joy for me here today. Didn't go with the MYTOY, thought he was past getting a result. Did an each way on the double so got a few quid back.
    Anyway, glad to see you're back with a 100 bets to broke thread (only saw it today). A lot of spectacular results in those threads. The amount of thanks in the first post is testament to that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    2:50

    Hawk High is one of my plot horses for this festival. I had though he was going in the County, but he appears here at a decent price. He has a very good record fresh and i think he certainly has a decent chance here tomorrow. I'm putting it up early as i'm sure it will be backed. His run in the County last year was eye-catching and  33/1 6 places is great value.

    2 Points ew 33/1 6 places Paddy/Coral

    This race has 3 of my Pre-Festival handicap horse along with Hawk High, I was confident about a good run this festival from Old Guard and Hargam. Old Guard is worth a bet here at 25/1 as i think he has a touch of class along with very good course form. He was a big eye-catcher in his last 2 runs and i fully expect him to be involved at the finish here.

    1 Point EW 25/1 5 places 365/boyles/vc


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    4:10

    Colour Squadron was backed as if defeat was out of the question last time out at Punchestown and he really looked like he enjoyed the course but got bogged down in heavy ground near the finish after traveling well. I think the much better ground will suit him a lot better here. The longer trip is definitely a concern but his price of 28/1 is easily value in this race.

    1 Point EW 28/1 1/4 odds 365/lads/coral


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  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭SQLDBA


    Aidan, if Hawk High comes in you have salvaged Cheltenham for most over in the Cheltenham: Day 2 thread. :) including myself


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    5:30
    Doctor Harper is probably  a bigger price than I expected here and we can be fully sure that he will be tuned up for this. He ill be suited by the ground and looks has looked like he has a race like this in him for the last year or two. It seems certain that he will go off shorter that the 16/1 currently available
    1 Point win 16/1 hills/32/888/unibet/betfair
    4:50
    As much as I love Lets Dance i really cant have the difference in price here between her and Airlie Beach over 2 miles on good ground. Its hard to know which is better at this stage but I think on what we've seen so far Airlie Beach has a better chance of beating her today than she might over a longer trip or on softer ground. 9/2 looks a couple of points too big
    2 Points win 5/1 Hills 9/2 Generally
    4:10
    Cocktails at Dawn has looked as if this kind of race will suit him in the past, as he needs decent ground. I fancied him last time out and he seemed to be traveling well until he fell. 50/1 is easily worth a shot in the dark here. I also like another good ground specialist in Un Ace at 25/1. He should be ideally suited by this race and he can bounce of this ground of a decent mark
    1/2 Point EW 50/1 Cocktails at Dawn sporting/888/netbet/unibet
    1 Point win Un Ace 25/1 generally
    3:30
    I apologize in advance for betting with the heart but 14/1 is mental about Shaneshill. Ruby has made the price for us by jumping ship. As soon as he sees the hill he sticks his head down and flies up. Hopefully he can be close enough turning the final corner.
    2 Points win 14/1 vc/lads/coral and others


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    2:10

    Aubesson has decent good ground 3 mile firm over hurdles and has looked like he is improving this year . Last years grade 1 French form would be right in the firing line here .

    1 point ew 80/1 5 places vc/365/lads


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    aidankkk wrote: »
    2:10

    Aubesson has decent good ground 3 mile firm over hurdles and has looked like he is improving this year . Last years grade 1 French form would be right in the firing line here .

    1 point ew 80/1 5 places vc/365/lads

    followed you on this one


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    2:10
    I'm sure people will think Ive lost the plot here but i just cant rule out L'ami Serge at a huge price. He is mad and a poor jumper at times but no matter what way i look at it he is going to be placed here. His festival form is better than most of these, and i think what he actually needs is this fast 2 mile race. 33/1 with 6 places is a huge price
    2 Points EW 33/1 6 places Paddy/Sky 5 places elsewhere
    3:30
    I think there is a fairly strong chance that Cue Card is a fair way clear of these. Im more or less ruling out Native River as i don't really like his form at all. That makes the 5/1 about Cue Card seems too big and worthy of a decent bet. I think he will love this test on decent ground. In addition i think Irish Cavalier is about a 10/1 shot to place making his 100/1 4 places price too big. He certainly loves good ground and was 5th last year.
    2 Points win Cue Card 5/1 fred/tote/betway/32 and more
    1 Point EW Irish Cavalier 100/1 4 Placs Paddy 80/1 4 Places Sky.
    4:10
    Mendip Express is a mad price here at 66/1. He had some of the best form last year in hunters and has s superb chance of being involved here. I also think Black Thunder is very overpriced because of a poor run last time. We can be sure today is the day for him.
    1 Point EW Medip Express 66/1 4 places Paddy/VC/Betfair
    1 Point EW Black Thunder 33/1 4 Places Paddy/VC/Betfair
    5:30
    Mr Fiftyone has been an expensive horse to follow for a long time but he will like the ground here and i like the fact that he has been sent here after a 5 month break by a trainer who just doesn't waste travel. 33/1 is worth the risk
    1 Point EW 33/1 Generally


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Magicpencil


    Unlucky Aidan, Lami Serge beaten by a nose, great tip on the EW though


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭muletide


    Went with you on L'ami Serge there Aidan.

    So close - great tip


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    4:10 Ludlow


    Workbench is a difficult horse to catch on his day. I think he is overpriced here tomorrow. All his good runs have come in small field races, and if the ground gets any better than the current soft-GS in places he could be in with a real shout here as the outsider of the field at 14/1. I think he is more of an 8/1 shot so that warrants a 2 point win bet.


    2 Points win 14/1 365/VC 12/1 Generally


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    12:50 Meyden

    I’m about to pick the biggest price horse I’ve ever selected, as I’m hopeful I’ve found the real value in this race tomorrow. Basateen had been a disappointing horse, but has been a bit of an eye-catcher on his last few runs and has improved with each run and each step up in trip. He was particularly eye-catching last time against the top 2 in this market when anything that could have went wrong did as he got no run at all and finished well to be 4th 3 lengths behind the fav here. He steps up another 2 furlongs here and is completely unexposed over this trip. From what I’ve seen last time this may well improve him again and if it does there is no chance he is a 200/1 shot. Now let’s not get carried away as at best he is a 33/1 or 40/1 shot here but still those margins are huge and with the added bonus of his potential stepped up again I’m all over this 200/1. IF only I could get 4 places EW, but still beggars can’t be choosers and we’ll have to make do with 3 places here. I’d be getting on early as these kinds of prices will go as soon as a few people stick on small enough EW bets.


    2 Points EW 200/1 Paddy/Betfair/VC

    150/1 EW w/o FAV on betfair, thats what i ended up backing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    ^ There are rather a few interesting 'selective price differential highlights' in this race (prices Fri at 19:30hrs).

    Basateen is also available @151 (but W/O F, and still 3pl) 1/5, via PP who are also 2-300% better priced for B than anyone else!
    (Shortening) Rembrandt Van Rijn is available @41 3pl 1/5, via Boyles which is 157% better than anywhere else!
    Wall of Fire is BP, again with PP @17 130% better than anywhere else.

    Sky is best in place terms, the only folks doing 4pl, so worth shopping around if you can. Needless to say these prices won't last.

    price update 20:04 Screen_Shot_2017-03-24_at_20.03.01.png


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  • Registered Users Posts: 749 ✭✭✭Bozo Skeleton


    Basateen 100-1 with PP now. Value gone :D
    nah, stuck an ew on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    RVR value gone now, 41 into 26. But still @34 with Sky 4pl.
    Surprised it was left @41 for so long, considering it was pulling 50% via OC.

    Screen_Shot_2017-03-24_at_20.20.55.png


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Shanee.


    RVR value gone now, 41 into 26. But still @34 with Sky 4pl.
    Surprised it was left @41 for so long, considering it was pulling 50% via OC.

    Screen_Shot_2017-03-24_at_20.20.55.png


    Andy holding tipped this up probably why price is gone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Shanee. wrote: »
    Andy holding tipped this up probably why price is gone

    Indeed think his was posted at 13:11 today, surprised BS left it so long up (8pm) @41
    Screen_Shot_2017-03-24_at_20.48.04.png


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Shanee.


    Shanee. wrote: »
    Andy holding tipped this up probably why price is gone

    Indeed think his was posted at 13:11 today, surprised BS left it so long up (8pm) @41
    Screen_Shot_2017-03-24_at_20.48.04.png

    They wouldn't lay eggs so I wouldn't pay much attention to the prices they go


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Shanee.


    Shanee. wrote: »
    Andy holding tipped this up probably why price is gone

    Indeed think his was posted at 13:11 today, surprised BS left it so long up (8pm) @41
    Screen_Shot_2017-03-24_at_20.48.04.png

    They wouldn't lay eggs so I wouldn't pay much attention to the prices they go


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Shanee.


    Shanee. wrote: »
    Andy holding tipped this up probably why price is gone

    Indeed think his was posted at 13:11 today, surprised BS left it so long up (8pm) @41
    Screen_Shot_2017-03-24_at_20.48.04.png

    They wouldn't lay eggs so I wouldn't pay much attention to the prices they go


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Shanee.


    Shanee. wrote: »
    Andy holding tipped this up probably why price is gone

    Indeed think his was posted at 13:11 today, surprised BS left it so long up (8pm) @41
    Screen_Shot_2017-03-24_at_20.48.04.png

    They wouldn't lay eggs so I wouldn't pay much attention to the prices they go


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Shanee.


    Shanee. wrote: »
    Andy holding tipped this up probably why price is gone

    Indeed think his was posted at 13:11 today, surprised BS left it so long up (8pm) @41
    Screen_Shot_2017-03-24_at_20.48.04.png

    They wouldn't lay eggs so I wouldn't pay much attention to the prices they go


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Shanee.


    Shanee. wrote: »
    Andy holding tipped this up probably why price is gone

    Indeed think his was posted at 13:11 today, surprised BS left it so long up (8pm) @41
    Screen_Shot_2017-03-24_at_20.48.04.png

    They wouldn't lay eggs so I wouldn't pay much attention to the prices they go


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