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HKC ALARM Installation

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,049 ✭✭✭✭altor


    bikenut wrote: »
    Trying to figure out single/dual EOL using the attached diagram and a HKC shock and contact sensor - SEN-WR.

    So I wired up the sensor using the lower diagram - and thought it would be good to check before wiring to panel so tested it as shown
    using the meter which says 9K4?

    Is this correct? I was expecting it to say closed - i.e. 4K7?

    out of interest - the HKC manual only shows one resistor in its diagram for single EOL?

    Any help thoughts much appreciated - there will only be one sensor on this zone.

    Just looking at the sensor you are using, its a inertia.
    I cant see a reed on the device which you have wired in too, that is why it is showing open.

    Reed is 1 and 6 on that device.
    Inertia is 2 and 5
    Tamper is 3 and 4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭bikenut


    Thanks - tried again this time with the sensor+contact and same result. Shows 9K4 whether the contact is closed or not and open line if I take open the tamper spring (in the last photo I'm holding down the spring).

    Back to start of this thread again to find out where I'm going wrong. I don't think it's the connections as otherwise it wouldn't be showing 9K4 all the time.

    I presume that if a detector is working properly it should show 4K7 to the panel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,049 ✭✭✭✭altor


    bikenut wrote: »
    Thanks - tried again this time with the sensor+contact and same result. Shows 9K4 whether the contact is closed or not and open line if I take open the tamper spring (in the last photo I'm holding down the spring).

    Back to start of this thread again to find out where I'm going wrong. I don't think it's the connections as otherwise it wouldn't be showing 9K4 all the time.

    I presume that if a detector is working properly it should show 4K7 to the panel?

    There is an arrow on the sensor head that must point upwards, looks side ways in your photo.
    This and the magnet in place with the lid closed will close it for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭bikenut


    Ha - thanks x 10^6!!

    I would have been there forever without seeing that! Works perfect - pic attached.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,049 ✭✭✭✭altor


    bikenut wrote: »
    Ha - thanks x 10^6!!

    I would have been there forever without seeing that! Works perfect - pic attached.

    All easy when you know how :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 damoj29


    Sorry to jump in on this thread but seems appropriate as I'm wring an hkc alarm at the moment...
    Could anyone advise how I wire two sabb's into a panel.... Eh, a diagram would be fantastic! Thanks!


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Hope this helps.

    436588.jpg

    If any connections are different give me a shout


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 damoj29


    Absolutely brilliant! Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 damoj29


    I have only got around to this today... And I'm already confused!

    In my hkc sabb's there is a resistor across two terminals with one marked as "back to panel", then there is the bho terminal - how does the previous diagram apply to this?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    You will only need one resistor between the 2 bells and that will be from the second bell back to the TR on the panel. The TR from the first bell will have no resistor & will connect to the BHO on the second.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,049 ✭✭✭✭altor


    damoj29 wrote: »
    I have only got around to this today... And I'm already confused!

    In my hkc sabb's there is a resistor across two terminals with one marked as "back to panel", then there is the bho terminal - how does the previous diagram apply to this?

    Also on your first SABB you will be taking out the resistor and putting the cable in the right terminal if you have the cable from the panel to the SABB.
    So you would not be putting it in the BACK TO PANEL side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 damoj29


    altor wrote: »
    Also on your first SABB you will be taking out the resistor and putting the cable in the right terminal if you have the cable from the panel to the SABB.
    So you would not be putting it in the BACK TO PANEL side.

    Thanks guys,
    So, just clarify... In my own way...

    Remove both resistors.
    SABB 1
    Panel to sabb 1 - bho into bho.
    Tamper to bho in sabb 2 (leaving 'back to panel' empty in sabb 1)
    SABB 2
    Tamper through resistor back to TR in panel (leaving 'back to panel' empty in sabb 2)
    ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 damoj29


    altor wrote: »
    Also on your first SABB you will be taking out the resistor and putting the cable in the right terminal if you have the cable from the panel to the SABB.
    So you would not be putting it in the BACK TO PANEL side.

    Thanks guys,
    So, just clarify... In my own way...

    Remove both resistors.
    SABB 1
    Panel to sabb 1 - bho into bho.
    Tamper to bho in sabb 2 (leaving 'back to panel' empty in sabb 1)
    SABB 2
    Tamper through resistor back to TR in panel (leaving 'back to panel' empty in sabb 2)
    ?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Sounds right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭sparky63


    Sorry for hijacking here, would anyone have the installation engineers manual for the HKC 1070 hybrid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,585 ✭✭✭kub


    sparky63 wrote: »
    Sorry for hijacking here, would anyone have the installation engineers manual for the HKC 1070 hybrid.

    Due to copyright issues, boards does not allow the sharing of manuals any longer.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    sparky63 wrote: »
    Sorry for hijacking here, would anyone have the installation engineers manual for the HKC 1070 hybrid.

    Hi
    As above Boards.ie no longer allow us to share manuals here.
    If you contact the manufacturer or an installer I'm sure they would be able to help you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭sparky63


    Thanks will do. I'm awaiting delivery of the alarm, not sure if it comes with it or just the user manual. Wanted to start goin through the manual.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Do you mean delivery of the equipment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭sparky63


    Yea, panel, keypad, few wireless shock/contacts, battery, sab and internal sounder. Have an existing Aritech cs350 that needs replacing.


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    If you have bought it you should be getting the installation manual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭sparky63


    Grand, Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,845 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    sparky63 wrote: »
    Grand, Thanks

    HKC panels don't come with an Engineers manual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,585 ✭✭✭kub


    HKC panels don't come with an Engineers manual.

    As mentioned on the panel packaging ' Only available to professional Installers '


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭sparky63


    Thanks guys, eventually found it online.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭Bussywussy


    Sorry if this is wrong thread but just thought i'd ask about rough cost of replacing the hkc GSM card for a wifi one to enable app usage....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭Davidwhit1


    Hi All,
    I have wired nearly all my hkc components and powered up the panel to get the bell light flashing outside as a deterrent.I haven’t programmed anything yet due to been busy.
    I have to add in a pir and gsm/wifi unit, if I open the panel will the external bell ring? Is there a way of disabling it before I start?
    Also any advice on programming?
    Thanks in advance


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Once you power the panel up disarm it and then enter engineer code. Once in the engineer menu you can work away without the system activating.
    If you have any questions on programming come back to us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭Davidwhit1


    KoolKid wrote: »
    Once you power the panel up disarm it and then enter engineer code. Once in the engineer menu you can work away without the system activating.
    If you have any questions on programming come back to us.
    Great thanks for that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭Davidwhit1


    So I have every zone walked tested bar the back door.i have wired it dual end of line ( 1 core into tamper and 1 core into reed, then into sensor into tamper with 2 4.7kohm resistors.)
    When I set it dual EOL it says 9500ohm open.
    If I set it single EOL it says 9500ohm closed but neither activate on walk test.
    Any ideas?
    Cheers


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