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Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭hairball


    I've found Sony and Microsoft efforts boring since PS3 days. That's possibly because I've always had a pc though. I can see how people who don't have a gaming pc, like the exclusives (such as they are) or the convenience, love them.
    I just haven't seen a compelling offering from Sony or MS in years, whereas Nintendo always attract my attention because they're not in the pissing contest.
    As to the power of the Switch, seems great to me from what I've seen. Hobbled? That depends on your point of view I guess, me, I don't think so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭kevin2me


    Fieldog wrote: »
    PS4 is boring...
    Wii U games look fantastic on 1080P TVs, and Nintendo IPs will always tend to look amazing...

    I think you summed it up in one line, why Im no longer disappointed with Nintendo's refusal to match the others on spec's and its no longer a major issue for me.
    Especially if AAA Devs find ways to give Switch similar experiences as they get their skills together with NVidia APIs etc for the Tegra. Even if its scaled down version of a AAA but gives portable\offscreen play is worth trade off for me personally.

    Argument for 4k is null in VOID when you consider XBOX One S doesnt even do this. X1 only outputs 4k for Movies and PS4 Pro is only a small subset of PS4 owners. So comparing Switch's lack of 4k doesnt make sense to me.

    I have spent 1000's euros on 4K and right now none of it is getting any use, 4K SKY UHD, 4K Denon Amp, 4K TV\Projector and X1 S and PS4 pro.
    And about the only think that has wow'd me is Sky's Intro before very movie, there I see 4k, everywhere else including $K Movies and Sky Footie 4k has barely any improvement.

    That being said Id love 4K to be there for VR, and rather at least 1080P etc for all games,
    But then there I was looking at Zelda on TVs at Pax and I must spent an hour just looking at those visuals in awe, If some made me guess resolution Id have gone for 1080P easy not 900P, its one of the must visually stunning games I have seen, albeit maybe due to art style they went with etc.

    I think it goes to show the overall gameplay experience over just visuals only is what counts for me.
    Thats not what everyone wants and I appreciate that fully, especially for those whom been waiting for Nintendo to match Sony\MS for many generations now. But if I want those visuals Ill play them on X1\PS4\PC, and for Nintendo, MK8, Splatoon and Zelda are plenty visually stunning for myself.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    As I think Banjo posted above, Nintendo haven't been at the races "Power wise" since the N64 launch, which blew most things out of the water around that time, some would say it was silicone technologies input in design that was the reason for that but I don't think that was the case...

    Interesting the rumours about of a 4K dock for Switch, and the console leaked specs say 4K 30FPS video output...

    My only issue really is how quiet about everything Nintendo have been this time around, quiet about Eshop, specs (they usually are quiet about specs regardless) the UI etc...

    I was hoping for one more direct before launch but as we get closer that doesn't look all that likely...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Andrew76 wrote: »
    The PS4 is boring? :rolleyes:

    Fingers crossed those 3rd party games you like actually make it to the Switch, aren't overpriced and aren't inferior compared to other versions. :)

    I would have loved for Nintendo to make a 'boring home console' as you put it - one that has decent specs to allow those brilliant Nintendo developers more freedom to create even better games. One that doesn't have silly design decisions like only have 32GB of space or needing a mobile phone app to chat online.

    The hybrid thing that makes it perfect for you is the very thing that hobbles the machine for those of us that have zero interest in portability.


    I meant boring in concept, as opposed to execution. Traditional would be a more accurate word. Bloodborne is still one of the best games of the generation by a country mile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭LilRedDorcha


    Everyone keeps going on about the creepy baby game, but does anyone remember the similar one they had before? It was a mini game in one of their wii party type games (could've even been Wii party). Each player had to rock the remote in time to the "heartbeat" to get their baby to sleep, and the first person to do it won, and it kept going on until all of the babies bar the last were asleep.

    I confirmed with my brother that I didn't just dream this game up :pac: I know the one on the switch is really creepy, but it's not too far from something they've done in the past.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Fieldog wrote: »
    As I think Banjo posted above, Nintendo haven't been at the races "Power wise" since the N64 launch, which blew most things out of the water around that time, some would say it was silicone technologies input in design that was the reason for that but I don't think that was the case...

    Interesting the rumours about of a 4K dock for Switch, and the console leaked specs say 4K 30FPS video output...

    .

    Think you forgot Gamecube there too, it was more powerful than the Xbox in some areas too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    Fieldog wrote: »

    The excuses some people are ponying up here for anyone who utters a bad word against Nintendo is quite frankly embarrassing....

    I wouldn't say embarrassing but I know exactly where you are coming from.
    Though if you tried to even hint at criticizing the Switch on Reddit you'll be downvoted for eternity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    I wouldn't say embarrassing but I know exactly where you are coming from.
    Though if you tried to even hint at criticizing the Switch on Reddit you'll be downvoted for eternity.

    And rightfully so. It's not even out yet, give it a chance for fcuks sake.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Think you forgot Gamecube there too, it was more powerful than the Xbox in some areas too.

    Was it?

    I always thought the OG Xbox kicked all them machines around that gen...

    Was there an nvidia partnership with Nintendo for cube or something?

    I can't remember... :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,120 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    Nah, the cube had an ATI chip in it, but yeah, it was more powerful than the PS2/Xbox in some ways, and slightly weaker in others, but overall, I think it was the most capable of the three, which got overlooked by a large number of people because of it's looks and the handle...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    And rightfully so. It's not even out yet, give it a chance for fcuks sake.

    Why? Can you not discuss what you see as the potential positives and negatives of the system without being dismissed as a hater or some such nonsense. There seems to be a lot of leeway being given here for potential issues on the Switch that would be absolutely slated on any other console.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    or the games...

    Why? Can you not discuss what you see as the potential positives and negatives of the system without being dismissed as a hater or some such nonsense. There seems to be a lot of leeway being given here for potential issues on the Switch that would be absolutely slated on any other console.

    That's not how it works in here it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭hairball


    Why? Can you not discuss what you see as the potential positives and negatives of the system without being dismissed as a hater or some such nonsense. There seems to be a lot of leeway being given here for potential issues on the Switch that would be absolutely slated on any other console.

    Issues for who though? There seems to be some insistence across the world-widewonderweb that this machine be judged based on what Sony and Microsoft have done with their consoles? Why is that? Can it not be it's own thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,120 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    Why? Can you not discuss what you see as the potential positives and negatives of the system without being dismissed as a hater or some such nonsense. There seems to be a lot of leeway being given here for potential issues on the Switch that would be absolutely slated on any other console.
    You absolutely can, just not posting nonsense designed just to wind people up.
    RasTa wrote: »
    or the games...

    That's not how it works in here it seems.
    There's already been a warning about discussing moderation on thread. You have a problem with it, you can take it to the relevant forums.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,457 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Andrew76 wrote: »
    The PS4 is boring? :rolleyes:

    Fingers crossed those 3rd party games you like actually make it to the Switch, aren't overpriced and aren't inferior compared to other versions. :)

    I would have loved for Nintendo to make a 'boring home console' as you put it - one that has decent specs to allow those brilliant Nintendo developers more freedom to create even better games. One that doesn't have silly design decisions like only have 32GB of space or needing a mobile phone app to chat online.

    The hybrid thing that makes it perfect for you is the very thing that hobbles the machine for those of us that have zero interest in portability.

    Couldn't agree more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,457 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Everyone keeps going on about the creepy baby game, but does anyone remember the similar one they had before? It was a mini game in one of their wii party type games (could've even been Wii party). Each player had to rock the remote in time to the "heartbeat" to get their baby to sleep, and the first person to do it won, and it kept going on until all of the babies bar the last were asleep.


    I confirmed with my brother that I didn't just dream this game up I know the one on the switch is really creepy, but it's not too far from something they've done in the past.


    You're thinking of Babysitting Mama, I think. IGN were only talking about it recently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Andrew76 wrote: »
    The PS4 is boring? :rolleyes:

    Fingers crossed those 3rd party games you like actually make it to the Switch, aren't overpriced and aren't inferior compared to other versions. :)

    Is this similar to how all third party games on PS4 are overpriced and inferior compared to their PC counterparts? Seriously, one console owner complaining about another consoles inferiority is just the poor pissing on the poorer.
    Everyone keeps going on about the creepy baby game, but does anyone remember the similar one they had before? It was a mini game in one of their wii party type games (could've even been Wii party). Each player had to rock the remote in time to the "heartbeat" to get their baby to sleep, and the first person to do it won, and it kept going on until all of the babies bar the last were asleep.

    It was indeed Wii Party, it was a strange game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭LilRedDorcha


    sligeach wrote: »
    You're thinking of Babysitting Mama, I think. IGN were only talking about it recently.

    Nope, it was a mini game from one of the other games.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,811 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    The Switch will do something very well.
    It will offer consumers a choice.
    Right now choice is a PS4, at home, a PC at home, an XB1, offering the same as a PC at home, or a 3DS.
    The new system will offer the chance to play games at home and seamlessly take them with you on the go and has the built in capacity to share that experience with another player right there and then.
    Time will tell if it gets the 3rd party support, time will tell if those games are in turn limited by the port to the Switch.
    And buyers will have a choice to make if it offers enough value to make it worth buying.
    I can see missing a dedicated Nintendo handheld in the marketplace but it really is about the games and why shouldn't the Switch enjoy a combination of the great games at home and on the go the Nintendo and third parties can produce.
    From Etrian Odyssey to Advance Wars, from Mario Galaxy to Kirby Triple Deluxe this system has a great pedigree and there's no reason not to give it a shot.
    The DS and 3DS have been the weaker systems in terms of power, but the content they hosted made them essential, as it did on the Gameboy, Color and Advance before.
    I get that some people are seeing nothing but compromises in terms of design and hardware, and some of the arguments are valid, but all can only be confirmed or dismissed with real world experience and time on market, which is why it's so frustrating to see the product, that so many here have been waiting patiently for, being ridiculed already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    The problem with some of the criticisms is that they don't take into account what the switch is meant to be and who it'd aimed at.

    The switch is a hybrid system. You may not want to take advantage of its portability but it's silly to criticise the compromises that have been made to allow it to be portable. It would be like me saying "the ps4/xbone are too heavy, I should be able to carry them around, and why is there no screen on the console itself". People would think those criticisms are ridiculous and they'd be right.

    I think other criticisms are fine. But giving out about a portable systems portability.......


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    I get that some people are seeing nothing but compromises in terms of design and hardware, and some of the arguments are valid, but all can only be confirmed or dismissed with real world experience and time on market, which is why it's so frustrating to see the product, that so many here have been waiting patiently for, being ridiculed already.

    I honestly think you're taking criticism of the console far too personally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭LilRedDorcha


    I think a lot of the criticism has been fair, but I'm being reminded of when the 2DS was launched. If I recall correctly, it was meant to be a cheaper system for kids since kids tended to break the hinges on the 3DS so having it made the way it was suited them better. There were people I knew in their 20s giving out about how it didn't make sense and they'd never buy it, even though it wasn't meant for them.

    Now, I realise this is a different scenario since it's a main console and not a variation of an established one, but the people who are complaining about not wanting it to be an on the go console should maybe realise that some people really do want that, and that's probably who nintendo are aiming for. The console won't be for everyone, and that's fine. Criticism is fine. I just feel like this argument has happened so many times before and once the console was out a while, everyone forgot about the arguments and moved on to the next one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    If/when they announce a new Pokemon game, a la Snap, people will lap up the Switch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,420 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I think Switch is doing a Wii U and having a soft launch now then will have a load of new updated features later.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    I think Switch is doing a Wii U and having a soft launch now then will have a load of new updated features later.

    Shouldn't it not be trying to avoid doing the same thing as the WiiU?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    I meant boring in concept, as opposed to execution. Traditional would be a more accurate word. Bloodborne is still one of the best games of the generation by a country mile.

    Boring has a completely different meaning to traditional. There's nothing wrong with a console being traditional in my book.
    Is this similar to how all third party games on PS4 are overpriced and inferior compared to their PC counterparts? Seriously, one console owner complaining about another consoles inferiority is just the poor pissing on the poorer.

    So all console owners are classed as 'poor' or 'poorer' - you're really going there? (That's a rhetorical question to be clear.)

    It's already been said by the mod of this forum that the positive & negative sides to the Switch are welcome here, but a lot of the time it doesn't feel that way at all. Nothing wrong with wanting Nintendo to learn from their mistakes and do better - benefits all of us in the end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


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    - Puyo Puyo Tetris 1.09 GB
    - I Am Setsuna 1.40 GB
    - Nobunaga’s Ambition 5 GB
    - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe 7 GB
    - Snipperclips 1.60 GB
    - Dragon Quest Heroes I·II 32 GB (SD card required)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,120 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    Andrew76 wrote: »
    Boring has a completely different meaning to traditional. There's nothing wrong with a console being traditional in my book.



    So all console owners are classed as 'poor' or 'poorer' - you're really going there? (That's a rhetorical question to be clear.)

    It's already been said by the mod of this forum that the positive & negative sides to the Switch are welcome here, but a lot of the time it doesn't feel that way at all. Nothing wrong with wanting Nintendo to learn from their mistakes and do better - benefits all of us in the end.

    The type of comments you're making are welcome, and are valid. People disagreeing doesn't mean the contents aren't welcome.

    Is just the nonsensical and ridiculous posts that're not welcome, such as preposterous comments like "it's not a new console" / "if it's a new console, mario kart would be 4k"

    The console will not, and never would meet the needs of those that are after bleeding edge tech with the most powerful chipset available. But it is trying something different. In my eyes, it's taking what was good about the Wii U, the off-tv play, and making that more free, so that you're not restricted to being in the same room as the base unit. I'll probably not use it outside the house too much, but that's guessing... Maybe I will.

    Arguing over its power is simply flogging a dead horse at this stage. There are plenty other, more relevant things about it that are still unclear at this stage that we need clarified for sure though, with the online functionality, voice chat, eshop/VC, etc...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Andrew76 wrote: »
    So all console owners are classed as 'poor' or 'poorer' - you're really going there? (That's a rhetorical question to be clear.)

    It was a simile to clarify, I'm ignorant but not that ignorant.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,953 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Consoles and indeed PCs are inherently boring IMO, even the ones with a novel idea or two (which Nintendo tend to offer). They're electronic boxes from major corporations that are designed to play games - they live or die based on the games. I will never understand the hyperbolic forum wars that wage over said consumer hardware, regardless of the side - seems like such a pointless thing to get wrapped up in.

    And I say this as someone who'll happily be picking up a Switch next Friday :) As I've said before, my 3DS is in need of an upgrade above all else: looking forward to being able to sneak an hour of Zelda in on the bus to/from town. While I appreciate its hybrid nature, it's still just the latest in a long line of boxes to deliver that sweet Nintendo software.


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