Gossies

meeeeh · 30-01-2017 01:27PM

anna080 wrote: »

So we should only share our opinions when we know nobody is going to agree with us? What are you even talking about?

I think it's slightly redundant to express opinion when the whole point was made over and over again.

The Talking Bread · 30-01-2017 01:39PM

meeeeh wrote: »

I think it's slightly redundant to express opinion when the whole point was made over and over again.

So first in, first served?

meeeeh · 30-01-2017 01:43PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

So first in, first served?

Basically. I can't see the reason for berating someone over and over again, making the same point over and over again just because I like the sound of my voice or the look of my writing. More often than not there is an option to like something.

retro:electro · 30-01-2017 01:46PM

meeeeh wrote: »

Basically. I can't see the reason for berating someone over and over again, making the same point over and over again just because I like the sound of my voice or the look of my writing.

Good for you.

meeeeh · 30-01-2017 01:51PM

anna080 wrote: »

Good for you.

Anything else to contribute?

scarbouro · 30-01-2017 01:52PM

meeeeh wrote: »

Basically. I can't see the reason for berating someone over and over again, making the same point over and over again just because I like the sound of my voice or the look of my writing. More often than not there is an option to like something.

That's funny because you seem to follow these threads constantly, berating people and their opinions over and over again.

meeeeh · 30-01-2017 01:56PM

scarbouro wrote: »

That's funny because you seem to follow these threads constantly, berating people and their opinions over and over again.

Find me an example where I ganged up on someone?

scarbouro · 30-01-2017 02:07PM

2 pages back you were saying EVERYONE who had an opinion on what happened were all in the wrong. Everyone should just shut up, say nothing and let this whole thing be swept under the carpet.

retro:electro · 30-01-2017 02:14PM

meeeeh wrote: »

Find me an example where I ganged up on someone?

But your point was that you don't see the logic in making the same point over and over again, and the poster pointed out that in fact, you do make the same points over and over.
So, is everyone's opinion wrong unless it is one that agrees with yours? I'm not sure I understand your reasoning.

idunno78 · 30-01-2017 02:21PM

Meeeeh not agreeing or disagreeing with anything you have said but just wondering if you don't who said what to who how can you comment on what happened!? Or are just saying in general not just this incident?

meeeeh wrote: »

I don't know who said what to whom, neither I care. What I do know is that this would be blown over in couple of days if an army of cheerleaders wouldn't feel then need to interfere and gleefully spread any sorry detail of the spat. People who are criticizing bloggers for bullying are doing exactly the same thing themselves, including many nasty contributions in this thread.

Cria · 30-01-2017 02:29PM

Heres my two cents .. grace took the most backlash because she cried publicly over being bullied.

Would she have apologised if she wasn't caught I don't think so.

Do I think the apology was sincere no I think it was damage control and the tears were from the backlash and potential lost business..
Some people were her loyal
Followers who unfollowed because this was the last straw she did leave a group of mothers to be bullied in her nbs group by the admins.
I saw tweets from women begging her to
Speak to admins ( one being her sister) and all she said was it's not my page anymore.
I think she is in way over her head and bloggers including her friend rosie con are distancing themselves from her because she's bad for business.
Where are her fellow bloggers to defend her where is her management to advise her .
What seems to be the tone of people is how she does these things like the currys tv and baby formula ect has a little cry on Snapchat and then she's over it ..
I do believe she shouldn't have taken the whole backlash vogue Williams response was she can't take a joke which is a typical bully type response..
As for Ali she is blaming rosemary on the whole thing not one apology from the pair of them..
Going forward I think this will affect sponsors for future goss awards .

SarahJ · 30-01-2017 02:31PM

Can i ask what the whole curry's saga is?

sashafierce · 30-01-2017 02:39PM

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SarahJ · 30-01-2017 02:45PM

sashafierce wrote: »

Whats an NBS group?

Her Nothing But Support facebook page.

meeeeh · 30-01-2017 02:46PM

anna080 wrote: »

But your point was that you don't see the logic in making the same point over and over again, and the poster pointed out that in fact, you do make the same points over and over.
So, is everyone's opinion wrong unless it is one that agrees with yours? I'm not sure I understand your reasoning.

You can't see a difference between arguing with different people about different things you don't like and berating one person constantly for the same thing?

One is being pain in the arse the other is being a bully.

retro:electro · 30-01-2017 02:55PM

meeeeh wrote: »

You can't see a difference between arguing with different people about different things you don't like and berating one person constantly for the same thing?

One is being pain in the arse the other is being a bully.

Who is berating here? It seems to me that people are all just sharing their opinions on the saga, they all just happen to be mostly the same opinion. Nobody is personal or nasty, could you point it out if they are?

Cria · 30-01-2017 02:59PM

SarahJ wrote: »

Can i ask what the whole curry's saga is?

Grace got a tv sent to her amongst other things from currys she snapped about it saying she bought it for her mother as a thank you ..
It turned out it was an ad for currys which she didn't #ad many of her followers who don't follow other bloggers believed what she said to be genuine.
But anyone who followed other bloggers saw them #ad and realised she was pulling the wool over there eyes .. so between that and her illegally promoting baby food I think the gossies behaviour was the last straw.

aine92 · 30-01-2017 03:08PM

lizlemon16 wrote: »

Upon review of the weekend's events, I think it's fair to put a bit of perspective into this thread. Without defending the reaction that it produced, RMC (an experienced professional) knew exactly what she was doing by posting an article full of insinuation (alleging bribery by sponsors) a week before the event at the exact time the post would gain the most traction. Had she produced her think piece after the event, perhaps titled 'Why I DIDN’T Go to the Gossies', I think she would have provoked a fairer and perhaps more effective campaign. Alleging derogatory scripted jokes (she later amended this on facebook) and allowing a tirade of abuse to be led against individuals (which is never ok), would be defined irresponsible journalism – BUT it has the defence of being a think piece built on personal opinion, so I guess the facts can change as frequently as the opinion does or when proved otherwise.

Diverse opinions and free speech are incredibly valuable and important, especially evident right now with recent political events, but I think there should have been more tact and consideration given to it and the fact this is a fledgling Irish business run by a young woman - which is still somewhat an anomaly these days.

Surely in this day and age there are other ways for women to get their point across and initiate change without provocation and victimisation? (Also odds on the blogger mentioned within the article giving her permission to be used as an example).

All in all, the booing and generally reaction = not great, but I can't take RMC's claims totally seriously regardless of any merit when her facts are published without being verified and it turns into a very public display of her capitalising on the takedown of other young women. There are other ways.

In other words, look out for the Regina George in sheep's clothing.

Capitalising on the takedown of other young women? Are you serious?

It's also worth noting that she didn't allege bribery, she simply said it was strange and unorthodox to have the sponsor of a category as a nominee also, which is true.

RMC has long been a journalist before she was anything else, and I say fair f**cks to her for publishing the article before. Yes it's controversial, yes she gained more followers, but not one thing she said in that blog post was mean or defamatory. If she had waited until after the awards and said that, people would have said she was hedging her bets and just bitter because she didn't win.

I think you're missing the whole point of this, frankly, ridiculous blowup. The blogging scene is bitchy, cliquey and something I would hate to be a part of. No wonder SJ and POC are branching out and getting out of it.

GingerLily · 30-01-2017 03:13PM

I think Vogue probably had a right to take offence to the RMC article, there was a personal dig at her, so Vogue catty behaviour does have some context!!

Maybe I'm the only one?

meeeeh · 30-01-2017 03:19PM

idunno78 wrote: »

Meeeeh not agreeing or disagreeing with anything you have said but just wondering if you don't who said what to who how can you comment on what happened!? Or are just saying in general not just this incident?

I wasn't commenting on who said what among bloggers because I didn't think it needed any more attention. I agreed with blog entry Rosemary wrote and I knew the whole competition is money making scheme for organizers. I work in completely different, a lot less attractive sector and yet my spam is still full of invitations to similar "unmissable" industry events. After that I had no interest on trying to see what was going on at the event or checking who won what. I also have no interest in following twitter spats. However this thread is on the list of my followed threads and I just thought there was constant barrage of negative comments over the weekend and majority aimed at one person. Some comments were very personal and nasty. I don't like that. I don't care what she did, wrote and so on. I never felt the need to check her blogging, she doesn't seem to be someone I would like but I am on this forum and I have no problem commenting on stuff that I don't like here.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 30-01-2017 03:24PM

And people have no problem commenting on what they feel is wrong elsewhere, so are we all agreed that everyone's entitled to their own opinion?

ibarelycare · 30-01-2017 03:26PM

meeeeh wrote: »

I wasn't commenting on who said what among bloggers because I didn't think it needed any more attention. I agreed with blog entry Rosemary wrote and I knew the whole competition is money making scheme for organizers. I work in completely different, a lot less attractive sector and yet my spam is still full of invitations to similar "unmissable" industry events. After that I had no interest on trying to see what was going on at the event or checking who won what. I also have no interest in following twitter spats. However this thread is on the list of my followed threads and I just thought there was constant barrage of negative comments over the weekend and majority aimed at one person. Some comments were very personal and nasty. I don't like that. I don't care what she did, wrote and so on. I never felt the need to check her blogging, she doesn't seem to be someone I would like but I am on this forum and I have no problem commenting on stuff that I don't like here.

You don't care what she did, but a lot of people do, and they're entitled to comment on it. Just like you just stated you're entitled to comment on what you read here (you don't see the hypocrisy there?). I don't think anyone here is defending the abuse Grace is getting over her weight/family/etc.

meeeeh · 30-01-2017 03:43PM

ibarelycare wrote: »

You don't care what she did, but a lot of people do, and they're entitled to comment on it. Just like you just stated you're entitled to comment on what you read here (you don't see the hypocrisy there?). I don't think anyone here is defending the abuse Grace is getting over her weight/family/etc.

I don't have time to go on about this but a mob going on about something for what they consider are right reasons it's still a mob.

I found plenty of nasty comments in this thread, plenty of hypocrisy, some were banned for those comments. I know most with me don't agree about it with me and if I was any less argumentative I would stay out of this thread.
You might think I am a hypocrite, I might think plenty here are with their fake concern when all they are doing is adding to the fire for their own amusement. Maybe I am too but at least I fight my own line not pile the same stuff on one person because she should be taught a lesson.

SB_Part2 · 30-01-2017 03:53PM

Meeeh, I don't think you realise it but you're the one keeping this discussion going and bringing more attention to it.

retro:electro · 30-01-2017 04:03PM

meeeeh wrote: »

I don't have time to go on about this but a mob going on about something for what they consider are right reasons it's still a mob.

I found plenty of nasty comments in this thread, plenty of hypocrisy, some were banned for those comments. I know most with me don't agree about it with me and if I was any less argumentative I would stay out of this thread.
You might think I am a hypocrite, I might think plenty here are with their fake concern when all they are doing is adding to the fire for their own amusement. Maybe I am too but at least I fight my own line not pile the same stuff on one person because she should be taught a lesson.

If you have a problem with comments on here then report them and don't engage just like your advice to others is unfollow and don't engage.

ibarelycare · 30-01-2017 04:04PM

meeeeh wrote: »

I don't have time to go on about this but a mob going on about something for what they consider are right reasons it's still a mob.

I found plenty of nasty comments in this thread, plenty of hypocrisy, some were banned for those comments. I know most with me don't agree about it with me and if I was any less argumentative I would stay out of this thread.
You might think I am a hypocrite, I might think plenty here are with their fake concern when all they are doing is adding to the fire for their own amusement. Maybe I am too but at least I fight my own line not pile the same stuff on one person because she should be taught a lesson.

You've no interest in any Irish bloggers, no interest in the Gossies, no interest in the "drama" that's being discussed...are you just following and posting in this thread cos you enjoy arguing with strangers on the internet?

Very strange.

Cria · 30-01-2017 04:29PM

meeeeh wrote: »

I wasn't commenting on who said what among bloggers because I didn't think it needed any more attention. I agreed with blog entry Rosemary wrote and I knew the whole competition is money making scheme for organizers. I work in completely different, a lot less attractive sector and yet my spam is still full of invitations to similar "unmissable" industry events. After that I had no interest on trying to see what was going on at the event or checking who won what. I also have no interest in following twitter spats. However this thread is on the list of my followed threads and I just thought there was constant barrage of negative comments over the weekend and majority aimed at one person. Some comments were very personal and nasty. I don't like that. I don't care what she did, wrote and so on. I never felt the need to check her blogging, she doesn't seem to be someone I would like but I am on this forum and I have no problem commenting on stuff that I don't like here.

Maybe I missed it but I didn't see any Nasty posts here .. none of the regular posters are nasty they just state their opinion.
I've seen you post a number of times on threads relating to bloggers if it's not your thing then maybe unfollow the post.

heyjude88 · 30-01-2017 04:30PM

meeeeh wrote: »

I don't have time to go on about this but a mob going on about something for what they consider are right reasons it's still a mob.

I found plenty of nasty comments in this thread, plenty of hypocrisy, some were banned for those comments. I know most with me don't agree about it with me and if I was any less argumentative I would stay out of this thread.
You might think I am a hypocrite, I might think plenty here are with their fake concern when all they are doing is adding to the fire for their own amusement. Maybe I am too but at least I fight my own line not pile the same stuff on one person because she should be taught a lesson.

The people who were banned were mostly people who followed links that were shared on facebook etc over the weekend. They had a handful of posts to their names, and had not been in this thread since the start like most people who comment here. The majority of posters here spoke about the Gossies and the incident that happened that night. Then moving on, the fall out from what happened at the gossies was spoken and discussed. We all gave our opinions in this thread, which is what we are allowed to do. The majority of people who, like I have already said, have been here since the start, have not been banned as they said nothing nasty. You are allowed your own interpretation of what is said here, however if its still up for the public to see, its not against the rules. Nasty hurtful comments are not condoned or encouraged here and I'm the sure the mods are keeping a close eye on what is being written.

I don't agree with the handful of personal abuse Grace received. But I didn't write them. on facebook, instagram or even here on boards.ie .

So please stop tarring all the posters here with the same bully brush. Those handful of people are on facebook and instagram, not here. You just like to keep poking the bear in all these blogger threads. We can all see it. Each to their own.

January · 30-01-2017 04:35PM

Cria wrote: »

Heres my two cents .. grace took the most backlash because she cried publicly over being bullied.

Would she have apologised if she wasn't caught I don't think so.

Do I think the apology was sincere no I think it was damage control and the tears were from the backlash and potential lost business..
Some people were her loyal
Followers who unfollowed because this was the last straw she did leave a group of mothers to be bullied in her nbs group by the admins.
I saw tweets from women begging her to
Speak to admins ( one being her sister) and all she said was it's not my page anymore.
I think she is in way over her head and bloggers including her friend rosie con are distancing themselves from her because she's bad for business.
Where are her fellow bloggers to defend her where is her management to advise her .
What seems to be the tone of people is how she does these things like the currys tv and baby formula ect has a little cry on Snapchat and then she's over it ..
I do believe she shouldn't have taken the whole backlash vogue Williams response was she can't take a joke which is a typical bully type response..
As for Ali she is blaming rosemary on the whole thing not one apology from the pair of them..
Going forward I think this will affect sponsors for future goss awards .

Let's get one thing straight here, the admin on NBS bullied nobody, they may have been overzealous in turning off commenting/deleting threads/blocking people but they did not bully. The guidelines were v. strict over there. What I've seen of the admin from NBS being bullied on other groups over the last few weeks is absolutely atrocious and underserved of what happened on NBS.

mad about nuts · 30-01-2017 04:36PM

heyjude88 wrote: »

The people who were banned were mostly people who followed links that were shared on facebook etc over the weekend. They had a handful of posts to their names, and had not been in this thread since the start like most people who comment here. The majority of posters here spoke about the Gossies and the incident that happened that night. Then moving on, the fall out from what happened at the gossies was spoken and discussed. We all gave our opinions in this thread, which is what we are allowed to do. The majority of people who, like I have already said, have been here since the start, have not been banned as they said nothing nasty. You are allowed your own interpretation of what is said here, however if its still up for the public to see, its not against the rules. Nasty hurtful comments are not condoned or encouraged here and I'm the sure the mods are keeping a close eye on what is being written.

I don't agree with the handful of personal abuse Grace received. But I didn't write them. on facebook, instagram or even here on boards.ie .

So please stop tarring all the posters here with the same bully brush. Those handful of people are on facebook and instagram, not here. You just like to keep poking the bear in all these blogger threads. We can all see it. Each to their own.

Its actually horrible the way it has played out now............ Its getting way too personal now when it should be kept to what happened on the nite and not drag weight and family into it.
Grace is starting to look like a cictim in this npw which was not the whole point.
Anyway...muf has not commented to why she was not there?

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