M11/N30 - Gorey to Enniscorthy [open to traffic]

Reuben1210 · 10-01-2017 4:20pm

betistuc wrote: »

Did Brendan Howlin not announce at the sod turning ceremony on New Ross by pass that Oylgate was going to be by passed after all. All agreed with TII apparently See post 714. or is it all a wind up!

Yes, he said it at the sod-turning of the New Ross bypass.

But in May last year, TII denied there were any plans for that. Ie: it was all electioneering:

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/ireland/article1691304.ece

betistuc · 10-01-2017 4:31pm

Thanks for that!

marno21 · 10-01-2017 5:35pm

L1011 wrote: »

That tonnage is about 4% of the national total. Combined total of Bantry and Drogheda - not what'd come to mind as major - is higher! Dublin, Shannon/Foynes and Cork are the dominant freight ports.

Hence why Dublin, Shannon/Foynes and Cork are regarded as TEN-T Core maritime ports by the EU and require motorway/high class road access, and the Limerick-Foynes and M28 schemes are being advanced. There are no plans for motorway access to Rosslare port as part of the TEN-T Core network.

betistuc wrote: »

Did Brendan Howlin not announce at the sod turning ceremony on New Ross by pass that Oylgate was going to be by passed after all. All agreed with TII apparently See post 714. or is it all a wind up!

He can agree what he likes with TII but when he's in opposition he can't allocate any cash for his projects.

Middle Man · 10-01-2017 5:43pm

In my mind, the motorway should be extended to at least as far as the Wexford Ring Road - Rosslare however wouldn't justify anything more than Type 2 Dual.

kneemos · 10-01-2017 5:52pm

They're forever on about expansion plans for Rosslare,nothing ever happens though. The latest plan seems to be cruise liners.God knows why they'd stop there,certainly won't be using the N11 anyway. https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=9&ved=0ahUKEwja--uCg7jRAhXkBcAKHblYBZUQFggyMAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wexfordecho.ie%2F2016%2F12%2F07%2Frosslare-to-welcome-ships-for-free%2F&usg=AFQjCNFdLAkDgYylFE72ovcqpAk8c66LQA

loyatemu · 10-01-2017 6:25pm

why would Cruise Liners dock in Rosslare? Wexford Town is pleasant enough, could medium size liners dock at the quay there?

kneemos · 10-01-2017 6:29pm

loyatemu wrote: »

why would Cruise Liners dock in Rosslare? Wexford Town is pleasant enough, could medium size liners dock at the quay there?

It's a shallow harbour.

josip · 10-01-2017 7:48pm

kneemos wrote: »

They're forever on about expansion plans for Rosslare,nothing ever happens though. The latest plan seems to be cruise liners.God knows why they'd stop there,certainly won't be using the N11 anyway. https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=9&ved=0ahUKEwja--uCg7jRAhXkBcAKHblYBZUQFggyMAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wexfordecho.ie%2F2016%2F12%2F07%2Frosslare-to-welcome-ships-for-free%2F&usg=AFQjCNFdLAkDgYylFE72ovcqpAk8c66LQA

Cruise Liners.
Every declining port's last straw that they grasp.
Dun Laoghaire's at it too.
Staffords will be suggesting it next.

marno21 · 10-01-2017 8:41pm

MOD: I know I took this slightly OT but Wexford/Rosslare ports and what they can handle are definately OT for a discussion on the M11 Gorey/Enniscorthy thread.

Can we get back to topic please, if a discussion on the viability of Rosslare port is needed can we take it to the appropriate forum

MichealD · 10-01-2017 9:41pm

zerks wrote: »

It takes very little to cause a tailback in Oylegate. Anyone stopping in Camolin has plenty of places to pull in. In Oylegate there's 2. I think we are missing the point of a major infrastructure project terminating just short of a village when at the other side if it there's a nice wide road. Our most high profile TD down here promised that wouldn't happen before he got elected and not a peep out of him since.

I've been commuting from Enniscorthy to Wexford and back twice daily for over twenty years and have very rarely seen any tailback in Oylegate. Apart from the drop in speed limit to 50kph for the approx kilometre of traffic calming there is no significant or even minor disruption in Oylegate during morning & evening commute times. Even on summer Saturdays with the arrival of both Uk and French ferries offloading loads of tourist traffic the traffic flow is maintained in Oylegate before coming to a complete stop in Enniscorthy.

I think there is an good argument that the route could have been future proofed and, long term, the added upfront costs of extending the M11 project a further 5kms south now would be less than an addition to it in 15 or 20 years. However that ship has sailed and construction work is already advanced past the point where an Oylegate extension could begin without writing off significant planning and preliminary earthwork costs.

I think rather than Oylegate the future issue in the short term after the M11 Enniscorthy bypass is completed will be further south at Ferrycarrig Hill/bridge and at the N11/N25 roundabout which experiences significant tailbacks at peak times at present. That area has numerous junctions exiting on to the N11 and some badly designed climbing and mainline lanes merging at junctions.

Cantona's Collars · 11-01-2017 3:09am

MichealD wrote: »

I've been commuting from Enniscorthy to Wexford and back twice daily for over twenty years and have very rarely seen any tailback in Oylegate. Apart from the drop in speed limit to 50kph for the approx kilometre of traffic calming there is no significant or even minor disruption in Oylegate during morning & evening commute times. Even on summer Saturdays with the arrival of both Uk and French ferries offloading loads of tourist traffic the traffic flow is maintained in Oylegate before coming to a complete stop in Enniscorthy.

I think there is an good argument that the route could have been future proofed and, long term, the added upfront costs of extending the M11 project a further 5kms south now would be less than an addition to it in 15 or 20 years. However that ship has sailed and construction work is already advanced past the point where an Oylegate extension could begin without writing off significant planning and preliminary earthwork costs.

I think rather than Oylegate the future issue in the short term after the M11 Enniscorthy bypass is completed will be further south at Ferrycarrig Hill/bridge and at the N11/N25 roundabout which experiences significant tailbacks at peak times at present. That area has numerous junctions exiting on to the N11 and some badly designed climbing and mainline lanes merging at junctions.

That section of road near Wexford is a nightmare at peak times and you are right about the climbing lanes,the one Northbound from Ferrycarrig will someday see a pileup.Only by sheer luck at times crashes have been avoided.

Back on topic,the proposed road closure on the Marshalstown road hasn't happened yet.There isn't even a sign of a man in a visi vest let alone a digger there since before Christmas.

jd · 11-01-2017 6:54am

MichealD wrote: »

I think rather than Oylegate the future issue in the short term after the M11 Enniscorthy bypass is completed will be further south at Ferrycarrig Hill/bridge and at the N11/N25 roundabout which experiences significant tailbacks at peak times at present. That area has numerous junctions exiting on to the N11 and some badly designed climbing and mainline lanes merging at junctions.

Yes, the New Ross Road Roundabout can be quite busy. It would only take a relatively small increase in traffic at peak times for tailbacks at the junction to become quite common. I wonder how much it would cost to do Oylegate-N25 junction, it would involve a new bridge and a GSJ at that roundabout .

kneemos · 11-01-2017 11:37am

zerks wrote: »

That section of road near Wexford is a nightmare at peak times and you are right about the climbing lanes,the one Northbound from Ferrycarrig will someday see a pileup.Only by sheer luck at times crashes have been avoided.

Back on topic,the proposed road closure on the Marshalstown road hasn't happened yet.There isn't even a sign of a man in a visi vest let alone a digger there since before Christmas.

There's a row of those big orange/red excavators still parked up at Scarwalsh.
They were working lower down though yesterday.

Cantona's Collars · 12-01-2017 1:42pm

kneemos wrote: »

There's a row of those big orange/red excavators still parked up at Scarwalsh.
They were working lower down though yesterday.

Work is back on between the Ballyorril Rd. and the Marshalstown Rd. Saw machinery working there earlier.

Cantona's Collars · 13-01-2017 9:15pm

A lot of work being done where the new motorway will merge with the existing M11 near the Clogh Roundabout.4 track machines going flat out loading trucks.
No pics,hard to take properly when driving at 120kp/h.:p

MichealD · 14-01-2017 5:45pm

Plenty of activity at Bessmount today. (M11 to N30 link)

Cantona's Collars · 14-01-2017 10:04pm

We need the Hoffman crew in there panning for gold.:p

vicwatson · 20-01-2017 12:23am

Latest updates here -

http://www.wexford.ie/wex/Departments/Roads/NationalRoadsLiaisonOffice/M11GoreytoEnniscorthyPPPScheme/Newsletters/Thefile,27211,en.pdf

kneemos · 20-01-2017 12:31am

vicwatson wrote: »

Latest updates here -

http://www.wexford.ie/wex/Departments/Roads/NationalRoadsLiaisonOffice/M11GoreytoEnniscorthyPPPScheme/Newsletters/Thefile,27211,en.pdf

A lot done,more to do.

josip · 20-01-2017 1:46am

vicwatson wrote: »

Latest updates here -

http://www.wexford.ie/wex/Departments/Roads/NationalRoadsLiaisonOffice/M11GoreytoEnniscorthyPPPScheme/Newsletters/Thefile,27211,en.pdf

We all know it's the sunny south east, but blue sky in all the pictures?
It's like a Budget Travel brochure

Cantona's Collars · 20-01-2017 3:10am

josip wrote: »

We all know it's the sunny south east, but blue sky in all the pictures?
It's like a Budget Travel brochure

It's a pity they keep using the same pictures in the newsletter,the picture of the N30 section would be completely different now as it's about 15 feet higher than when the original picture was taken.

Cantona's Collars · 01-02-2017 1:54pm

Massive culverts in situ on the N30 section.Probably for access for the local farm.Sorry if the quality isn't brilliant,lashing rain here and I had to do a quick stop and snap to get the picture.

m17 · 04-02-2017 5:30pm

zerks wrote: »

Massive culverts in situ on the N30 section.Probably for access for the local farm.Sorry if the quality isn't brilliant,lashing rain here and I had to do a quick stop and snap to get the picture.

Here's one up close

it's what the call accommodation underpass it's for the farmer who has land on both sides of the road

Cantona's Collars · 05-02-2017 9:43pm

Any boardsies with a drone? Passed a fella today near where I took the last photo setting up one complete with camera.There'd be pretty decent video of the works from that.

ninja 12 · 05-02-2017 9:49pm

MichealD wrote: »

Plenty of activity at Bessmount today. (M11 to N30 link)

The concrete channel has just been totally covered over with gravel / hard core .

Lots of activity there at the moment .

Sorry , no pics .

Mountfield · 07-02-2017 9:32pm

zerks wrote: »

Any boardsies with a drone? Passed a fella today near where I took the last photo setting up one complete with camera.There'd be pretty decent video of the works from that.

Drone footage up on the enniscorthy bypass facebook page.

Cantona's Collars · 08-02-2017 11:47am

Work on part of the N30 stretch is halted due to protests by locals over new boundaries and lack of plans for a wall or type of fence at one property on that part of the bypass. It's on the front page of the Enniscorthy Echo.

marno21 · 11-02-2017 1:29am

Current progress at the start of the scheme, adjacent to the current terminus of the M11 at Clogh

Other works along the route:

Courtesy M11 PPP @ www.m11gtoe.ie

Cantona's Collars · 14-02-2017 3:21pm

Dozers working on the Kilcannon end of where the new bridge across the Slaney at Solsborogh is to be built.It's hard to get pics there as access is tricky.

Sam Russell · 16-02-2017 9:46am

Mod: Please, can we get back on the road, posters.

There are other threads to talk about other projects, and other funding.

M11/N30 - Gorey to Enniscorthy [open to traffic]

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