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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    dulpit wrote: »
    Anyone find that the editing was a bit off for the live shows? Probably much more entertaining in person than listening via podcast, they should have filmed it and issued the whole show as a video podcast maybe?

    Yeah I thought it was a bit rushed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭splendid101


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Does anyone find Eoin's voice a wee bit unsuited to shouting?

    Oh god. I think McDevitt is an absolutely great broadcaster, brilliant interviewer, but his voice trying to hype up a crowd is consistently cringey.

    The way his shouts hang there and then trail off...ugh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Listening to Dunphy's first pod

    The full gamut of RTE lads


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,608 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    Oh god. I think McDevitt is an absolutely great broadcaster, brilliant interviewer, but his voice trying to hype up a crowd is consistently cringey.

    The way his shouts hang there and then trail off...ugh.

    Similar to how kermit the frog used to introduce the muppet show. :)



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭foxtrot101




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,747 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    I remember Ken sneering at Giles' assertion that their is no great tactic in the sky a few months ago, I'd love to hear the two of them discuss Ken's favourite player of all time, David Luiz, that would be worth paying for.

    When I listen to Giles talk I find myself nodding in agreement most of the time, when Ken talks half the time I think 'that's an interesting theory but you're talking sh1te'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭Hippo


    dulpit wrote: »
    Anyone find that the editing was a bit off for the live shows? Probably much more entertaining in person than listening via podcast, they should have filmed it and issued the whole show as a video podcast maybe?

    I'm not a fan of the 'live' pods at all, a bit like the TV show I just don't see the point of an audience. Much more fun if you're there I'm sure, as you say.

    Don't think the book was up to scratch this year either - apart from the Fair View (which is incredibly good) there's not a lot else there. Nicely produced though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,029 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    I remember Ken sneering at Giles' assertion that their is no great tactic in the sky a few months ago, I'd love to hear the two of them discuss Ken's favourite player of all time, David Luiz, that would be worth paying for.

    When I listen to Giles talk I find myself nodding in agreement most of the time, when Ken talks half the time I think 'that's an interesting theory but you're talking sh1te'

    I'm not really sure how much Ken knows about actual football. I think he's great at covering the whole circus around football and all the characters in it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    There was a throwaway comment about "the future of the podcast" in one of the live pods....

    Maybe I'm just so downtrodden by the consistent cancellation of every show I like, but combined with the lack of a sponsor atm, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a tad worried.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭Trimm Trabb


    wnolan1992 wrote: »
    There was a throwaway comment about "the future of the podcast" in one of the live pods....

    Maybe I'm just so downtrodden by the consistent cancellation of every show I like, but combined with the lack of a sponsor atm, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a tad worried.

    Yeah I think it was from US Murph - I got the impression too it wasn't just a throwaway comment and the future of the podcast might not be secure.

    It does have a pretty loyal listenership I'd say - could probably charge something for it. I'd definitely sign up for Irish Times monthly subscription if you had to to download the show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,141 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    I remember Ken sneering at Giles' assertion that their is no great tactic in the sky a few months ago, I'd love to hear the two of them discuss Ken's favourite player of all time, David Luiz, that would be worth paying for.

    When I listen to Giles talk I find myself nodding in agreement most of the time, when Ken talks half the time I think 'that's an interesting theory but you're talking sh1te'

    I got into listening to this pod during the summer, and I find myself listening to hear what new nonsense Early has come up with.

    I enjoy the fact its typically alternative views and thoughts on the English game from the run of the mill English football pods I listen to. But the lads still sput an awful lot of ****e.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Yeah I think it was from US Murph - I got the impression too it wasn't just a throwaway comment and the future of the podcast might not be secure.

    It does have a pretty loyal listenership I'd say - could probably charge something for it. I'd definitely sign up for Irish Times monthly subscription if you had to to download the show.

    f**k off

    I'd sign up to a subscription service for the lads alright but the Irish Times? Not a hope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭Trimm Trabb


    lawred2 wrote: »
    f**k off

    I'd sign up to a subscription service for the lads alright but the Irish Times? Not a hope.

    Well the podcast is under the Irish Times banner -it's possible that they could include it behind the paywall (€12 per month) and you would have to pay to access all their content - you could choose to just listen to the lads of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭Beersmith


    Is there any other pods that charge? I don't know of any. I don't think it would work.

    I thought this years sports annual was better than last years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭foxtrot101


    Beersmith wrote: »
    Is there any other pods that charge? I don't know of any. I don't think it would work.

    I thought this years sports annual was better than last years.

    The Anfield Wrap has both free and subscription based podcasts. I think it's a fiver a month for the extra stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,305 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Prodston


    Eoin is great but I'd like to invoice him for a new pair of ear drums after listening to the liveshow through headphones. Sweetmotherojebus there's no need to shout like that.

    Tadgh Furlong was a great interviewee too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,252 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    lawred2 wrote: »
    f**k off

    I'd sign up to a subscription service for the lads alright but the Irish Times? Not a hope.

    So let me get this straight. You'd sign up to a subscription service if it was just the pod? But you wouldn't sign up if it was the pod, with an online newspaper subscription included too? Even if it was the same price? What?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Arghus wrote: »
    So let me get this straight. You'd sign up to a subscription service if it was just the pod? But you wouldn't sign up if it was the pod, with an online newspaper subscription included too? Even if it was the same price? What?

    Where did you get the same price notion from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,252 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Where did you get the same price notion from?

    My mistake.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭Trent Houseboat


    TheDoc wrote:
    Is there any other pods that charge? I don't know of any. I don't think it would work.

    I thought this years sports annual was better than last years.
    I think it was tried in the early days of podcasting but wasn't really much of a success. Never Not Funny charged up until a couple of years ago.
    Answer Me This and Dan Carlin produce for free, but charge for archived shows. SC pods are mostly about the sports stories of the week and therefore almost valueless a week after they're published.

    The patreon model seems to be the popular way to fund a show these days. People donating per month/episode get exclusive content, add free feeds and or earlier releases.
    I'd say that they have enough fans willing to throw them €5 a month to make that a success, but it might seem a bit grubby for the paper of record.

    Well the podcast is under the Irish Times banner -it's possible that they could include it behind the paywall (€12 per month) and you would have to pay to access all their content - you could choose to just listen to the lads of course.
    *Nerd Alert* They also have a separate subscription of €35 a year for the crossword only. Something similar could be done for access to all their audio content. I doubt it would work though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Running Balance


    I d love to know how much the guys are pulling out of this wage wise.

    Between the podcast tv and newspapers i d be shocked if it was more than €300k to divide between the 5 of them..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    That sounds realistic or maybe even on the high side, but they probably get a nice top up this time of year from sales of the annual.

    They do need an external sponsor badly though. I can't see how using the IT as sponsor can be a long term solution.

    Given their unique overseas reach to Irish expats you would think there would be plenty of international companies that might benefit from the publicity, currency brokers, international bulk shipping companies, Irish bar chains, airlines etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Running Balance


    That sounds realistic or maybe even on the high side, but they probably get a nice top up this time of year from sales of the annual.

    its got a great wage to pulling out of really.

    Surprised someone like currency fair havent tried sponsoring them..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,779 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    I'm surprised Squarespace don't sponsor it. For a while I thought they sposored every podcast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,139 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    From the sound of Giles he dosent have much time for anyone in the media who never played football. Not 'football people'
    Giles has said enough rubbish over the years to make me ignore him at this stage. Managers don't matter, tactics don't matter, Ronaldo banging in a goal a game at united is rubbish. He also said on Off The Ball on newstalk to ken and eoin that Rooney was the best midfielder player he's ever seen. He talks some shíte.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,784 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Giles has said enough rubbish over the years to make me ignore him at this stage. Managers don't matter, tactics don't matter, Ronaldo banging in a goal a game at united is rubbish. He also said on Off The Ball on newstalk to ken and eoin that Rooney was the best midfielder player he's ever seen. He talks some shíte.

    Himself and Dunphy talk awful rubbish....but Jesus they were box office entertainment in their day!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Himself and Dunphy talk awful rubbish....but Jesus they were box office entertainment in their day!

    show me a football pundit who doesn't


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,784 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    lawred2 wrote: »
    show me a football pundit who doesn't

    Point being you have the likes of Michael Owen and Alan Shearer who would bore you to death...and you have Dunphy and Giles who talk the same level of rubbish but are entertaining at the same time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,252 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Giles gets a pass from me, outdated and all as some of his views and opinions are; I think he means well, but Dunphy hates criticism - usually becoming extremely childish and petulant when challenged - and likes making himself and his huge ego part of the story, all the while not having as much of a clue about what is actually happening in modern football as about 90% of the posters here - he's occasionally entertaining, but that's not saying much, if you ask me. A total joke pundit, who should have been retired a long time ago.


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