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Second Captains

ballsymchugh

Thought I'd update the OP with links and stuff for anyone who stumbles across this.

The former Off the Ball hosts have partnered with The Irish Times to do a series of weekly podcasts. They go online each Tuesday and cover a variety of sports, with a number of contributors including Sid Lowe, Richie Sadlier, Gerry Thornley and Shane Horgan.

They can be found:
On The Irish Times' site: http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/second-captains
On Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/secondcaptains-it-com
On iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/ie/podcast/second-captains-irish-times/id647893016?mt=2

Or if you prefer not to use iTunes for your podcasts, use this link in whatever app you use (Thanks to youcancallmeal): http://feeds.feedburner.com/secondcaptainsitcom

And here are their Twitter and Facebook accounts.

Cheers,
wnolan1992

so they're almost finished their gardening leave...

where will they end up?

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dr.kenneth noisewater

The 2 for €20 is sold out now I see

OldMrBrennan83

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bren2001

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

The annuals worth getting?

Vol 2 for 18? Probably not worth it. Both for 20? Definitely, I thoroughly enjoyed last years one. Some great pieces in it.

Hippo

Hugh Mungus wrote: »

Lots of their podcasts have been awful lately. The quantity of actual football events has gone down dramatically and replaced with filler. What used be an essential podcast is now my third choice after FW and Off The Ball...yes I said that.

Even allowing for a drop-off in the quality of SC, this simply cannot, cannot be. Appalling stuff, always.

redbuck

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

The annuals worth getting?

Nope not in my view as someone who paid full price for it. Was hoping for all the Fair View's in it too, just the one included.

dr.kenneth noisewater

The annuals worth getting?

dulpit

iancm25 wrote: »

Was thinking the same but couldn't find the fecking deal on their website. Rage.

http://secondcaptains.myshopify.com/products/20-combo-deal-on-the-second-captains-sports-annual-vol-1-and-vol-2

There you go...

iancm25

Running Balance wrote: »

I havent read the annuals as thought the price was a bit steep. Is the two volumes for â‚¬20 deal worth it..

Was thinking the same but couldn't find the fecking deal on their website. Rage.

Running Balance

I havent read the annuals as thought the price was a bit steep. Is the two volumes for â‚¬20 deal worth it..

Cienciano

The football show was good, not sure what people are talking about saying it's not as good as it used to be.

I was slightly disappointed with Ken talking about Pep and Stan Collymore. Doing what all the other journalists did and watched the shortened clip and not the full clip so completely lost the context on what Pep actually said. Ken usually researches a bit better than that.

Say Your Number

The book review was enjoyable, Ken's review of that Guardiola book was the highlight, Malachy was right in saying it would be impossible not to read it in Ken's smartarsed voice.

Ken had a great quote on O'Connell asking himself if he was a pain in the arse to other players

"If you're asking that question of yourself you're probably not, I think the real pain's in the arse never ask themselves 'am I a pain in the arse' "

corwill

I enjoyed Ken's "old banger" line about Lalanna, chuckled a little too much for some of the goms around me on the train home.

Arghus

Yes, I too have been wondering why the quality of recent football shows have been far from the usual standards.

There was one recently enough in which an interview with a football analytics fellow took up the bulk of it and he really didn't have anything new to say about the field, well at least nothing I hadn't heard before elsewhere. Real filler stuff, I got the feeling that they may have sourced the guest from amongst their mates. So much time was given over the last day to the whole Karius V Nevilles stuff, which is mildly diverting - at best. This is peak football season, there should be no shortage of other stories to devote time to.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Seems like I'm always banging on over the lack of quality in the pod lately but the facts are that the lads have given me FANTASTIC entertainment over the years for FREE!! I'm not even complaining...

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Dots1982 wrote: »

Jesus what was the point of that football show today? Oscar going to China is nothing new or noteworthy and a boring 30 minute chat about how great 1996 was if you are English which listeners are mostly not. Will we have a chat with a french journalist about how great it was to be french in 1998.

Lots of their podcasts have been awful lately. The quantity of actual football events has gone down dramatically and replaced with filler. What used be an essential podcast is now my third choice after FW and Off The Ball...yes I said that.

dr.kenneth noisewater

Dots1982 wrote: »

Jesus what was the point of that football show today? Oscar going to China is nothing new or noteworthy and a boring 30 minute chat about how great 1996 was if you are English which listeners are mostly not. Will we have a chat with a french journalist about how great it was to be french in 1998.

Yeah very poor really. You would imagine a full set of midweek fixtures would have been discussed a bit more!

Dots1982

Jesus what was the point of that football show today? Oscar going to China is nothing new or noteworthy and a boring 30 minute chat about how great 1996 was if you are English which listeners are mostly not. Will we have a chat with a french journalist about how great it was to be french in 1998.

Say Your Number

Cienciano wrote: »

Giles has said enough rubbish over the years to make me ignore him at this stage. tactics don't matter, Ronaldo banging in a goal a game at united is rubbish.

Ronaldo being a big man-child is what Giles hated about him.

I don't think he ever said tactics don't matter, that was more in reply to the gimmicky/over-complicated things some managers do, what Giles says is get your best players on the pitch in their best positions and devise a plan around that.

I know people think he's over the hill, but I like his old school values, there's nice contrast between him and modern psychobabble merchants like Ken

Arghus

Giles gets a pass from me, outdated and all as some of his views and opinions are; I think he means well, but Dunphy hates criticism - usually becoming extremely childish and petulant when challenged - and likes making himself and his huge ego part of the story, all the while not having as much of a clue about what is actually happening in modern football as about 90% of the posters here - he's occasionally entertaining, but that's not saying much, if you ask me. A total joke pundit, who should have been retired a long time ago.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

lawred2 wrote: »

show me a football pundit who doesn't

Point being you have the likes of Michael Owen and Alan Shearer who would bore you to death...and you have Dunphy and Giles who talk the same level of rubbish but are entertaining at the same time.

lawred2

Hugh Mungus wrote: »

Himself and Dunphy talk awful rubbish....but Jesus they were box office entertainment in their day!

show me a football pundit who doesn't

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Cienciano wrote: »

Giles has said enough rubbish over the years to make me ignore him at this stage. Managers don't matter, tactics don't matter, Ronaldo banging in a goal a game at united is rubbish. He also said on Off The Ball on newstalk to ken and eoin that Rooney was the best midfielder player he's ever seen. He talks some shíte.

Himself and Dunphy talk awful rubbish....but Jesus they were box office entertainment in their day!

Cienciano

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

From the sound of Giles he dosent have much time for anyone in the media who never played football. Not 'football people'

Giles has said enough rubbish over the years to make me ignore him at this stage. Managers don't matter, tactics don't matter, Ronaldo banging in a goal a game at united is rubbish. He also said on Off The Ball on newstalk to ken and eoin that Rooney was the best midfielder player he's ever seen. He talks some shíte.

Ol' Donie

I'm surprised Squarespace don't sponsor it. For a while I thought they sposored every podcast.

Running Balance

Cosmo Kramer wrote:

That sounds realistic or maybe even on the high side, but they probably get a nice top up this time of year from sales of the annual.

its got a great wage to pulling out of really.

Surprised someone like currency fair havent tried sponsoring them..

Cosmo Kramer

That sounds realistic or maybe even on the high side, but they probably get a nice top up this time of year from sales of the annual.

They do need an external sponsor badly though. I can't see how using the IT as sponsor can be a long term solution.

Given their unique overseas reach to Irish expats you would think there would be plenty of international companies that might benefit from the publicity, currency brokers, international bulk shipping companies, Irish bar chains, airlines etc.

Running Balance

I d love to know how much the guys are pulling out of this wage wise.

Between the podcast tv and newspapers i d be shocked if it was more than â‚¬300k to divide between the 5 of them..

Trent Houseboat

TheDoc wrote:

Is there any other pods that charge? I don't know of any. I don't think it would work.

I thought this years sports annual was better than last years.

I think it was tried in the early days of podcasting but wasn't really much of a success. Never Not Funny charged up until a couple of years ago.
Answer Me This and Dan Carlin produce for free, but charge for archived shows. SC pods are mostly about the sports stories of the week and therefore almost valueless a week after they're published.

The patreon model seems to be the popular way to fund a show these days. People donating per month/episode get exclusive content, add free feeds and or earlier releases.
I'd say that they have enough fans willing to throw them €5 a month to make that a success, but it might seem a bit grubby for the paper of record.

Trimm Trabb wrote:

Well the podcast is under the Irish Times banner -it's possible that they could include it behind the paywall (€12 per month) and you would have to pay to access all their content - you could choose to just listen to the lads of course.

*Nerd Alert* They also have a separate subscription of €35 a year for the crossword only. Something similar could be done for access to all their audio content. I doubt it would work though.

Arghus

lawred2 wrote: »

Where did you get the same price notion from?

My mistake.

lawred2

Arghus wrote: »

So let me get this straight. You'd sign up to a subscription service if it was just the pod? But you wouldn't sign up if it was the pod, with an online newspaper subscription included too? Even if it was the same price? What?

Where did you get the same price notion from?