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Eir rural FTTH thread

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  • #2402
    RobertFoster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,387 ✭✭✭RobertFoster


    lbyrne121 wrote: »
    hi sorry to add to this thread but I was wondering if someone can help.. I am moving house and I have rang eircom and they said that the I can only get speeds up to 2mb... I presume that is really bad? anyone know what it is like to have speeds like that?

    I have attached a picture below my house is on the blue line there is no broadband but around 3km from my house there is a green dot that says "Fibre Build commenced - completion work is in progress" does this mean that I will be getting fiber broadband soon in the area?  I have circled in black the green spot and also the X where my house is. 
    It also says that  FTTH Phase Q4 2016/Q12017 what does this mean?

    if anyone can give me any advice that would be great

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=402743
    2Mb is bad. Browsing will be OK, but watching video on YouTube for example will be poor quality (360p) or it'll buffer a lot.

    3KM is too far for that cabinet to be of any use to you. Those cabinets (FTTC - Fibre to the Cabinet) can provide up to 100Mb, but this degrades over distance (hover over Calculate distances on the map), with no connection being provided over 2KM.

    Being on a blue line will mean you'll be able to get FTTH (Fibre to the Home, 1000Mb) when eir start rolling that out. Check the All box on the right of the map and you'll see your exchange (Ravensdale) has an "Estimated date for first Live Fibre Services is early/mid 2017". Most dates are just estimates at the moment as the roll out hasn't really begun yet.

    Before you sign up for 2Mb, check to see what your mobile coverage is like in the new house. It might be faster and cheaper to get a dongle than to be stuck with 2Mb for 6+ months.


  • #2403
    MajesticDonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭MajesticDonkey


    Gwynston wrote: »
    I'm not denying that On Demand TV is the future. But using the internet to provide it isn't what the internet was designed for. And we have other mechanisms that provide for that (satellite, cable).

    What was the internet designed for, in your opinion?


  • #2404
    Tommy Lagahan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭Tommy Lagahan


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Ironically, decent antennas are probably improving the situation for others - nothing saps cell capacity like poor signals.

    Its more that downloading "linux distributions" and Steam games at 35Mbit on HSPA+ probably isn't helping cell capacity either :pac: Definitely making use of the all you can eat bundle at the moment. The 4G cell 9KM away used to be good for 40+Mbit but all those houses upgraded their modems and it gets less than a Mbit for me now, too far away. But anyway, as far as the discussion on the amount of bandwidth TV streaming is going to take up, don't forget the steady march of video codecs like x265 that are being used to reduce the requirements a fair bit. Most of the people I know in my age group don't have TV subscriptions or even freeview anymore anyway, mostly using Netflix and the likes, so its inevitable imo.


  • #2405
    Grumpypants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,234 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    MajesticDonkey wrote: »
    What was the internet designed for, in your opinion?

    Sharing research documents, isn't that what everyone is using it for ? :pac:


    We have a different company working in my area (not Eir or KN) but they are opening up manholes and running some cable through. Not sure if it is related to the Fibre roll out or not. I hope so. But if they have brought in extra outsourcing they might be really pushing to get the 100K done.


  • #2406
    Machinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Machinehead


    I guess this question has been asked before but 200 pages of posts is a lot to go through, but here goes, the Eir guys were about & said that a new pole was being sited near me this week for a fibre line due to be working by mid January. When this is done will my current ADSL be available via the new cable or will I have to sign up for a fibre connection immediately & could my ADSL speed improve over the new cable?


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  • #2407
    ItHurtsWhenIP
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,180 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    Machinehead wrote: »
    I guess this question has been asked before but 200 pages of posts is a lot to go through, but here goes, the Eir guys were about & said that a new pole was being sited near me this week for a fibre line due to be working by mid January. When this is done will my current ADSL be available via the new cable or will I have to sign up for a fibre connection immediately & could my ADSL speed improve over the new cable?

    This will have no impact on your ADSL service.

    If you are passed by Fibre and you want an upgrade, you have to order the eir fibre extreme product. This will run a new wire (fibre optic cable) into your house, separate from your phone line. You can choose from 150Mbps, 300Mbps or 1,000Mbps packages. I'd suggest getting rid of your ADSL connection if you get the fibre. :D:P;)


  • #2408
    Machinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Machinehead


    ItHurtsWhenIP wrote: »
    This will have no impact on your ADSL service.

    If you are passed by Fibre and you want an upgrade, you have to order the eir fibre extreme product. This will run a new wire (fibre optic cable) into your house, separate from your phone line. You can choose from 150Mbps, 300Mbps or 1,000Mbps packages. I'd suggest getting rid of your ADSL connection if you get the fibre. :D:P;)
    Just had another visit from the KNN guys, he said that they need to replace the nearest pole to me erect a new one & replace the old copper cable with the fibre line. So that means the copper line for my phone will disappear & phone will run thru' the new fibre line. Is this the correct modus operandi or should they be leaving the copper line for the phone connection?


  • #2409
    Tommy Lagahan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭Tommy Lagahan


    Machinehead wrote: »
    Just had another visit from the KNN guys, he said that they need to replace the nearest pole to me erect a new one & replace the old copper cable with the fibre line. So that means the copper line for my phone will disappear & phone will run thru' the new fibre line. Is this the correct modus operandi or should they be leaving the copper line for the phone connection?

    I think the plan is to get rid of the copper system entirely in a few years to save maintenance costs so aye, probably correct. Likelyhood is you'll get far more speed for the same price by switching from your ADSL and a better experience in general. In my case if lightning hits one of the lines nearby my whole phone socket literally explodes out of the wall and takes the handset with it. On our 4th wireless handset at this stage with it.


  • #2410
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    ItHurtsWhenIP wrote: »
    If you are passed by Fibre and you want an upgrade, you have to order the eir fibre extreme product.

    ...or a comparable service from another reseller of open eir's wholesale ftth products.

    I know, there aren't that many doing so at the moment, but I'd hate people to get into the habit of lazily assuming that ftth is an eir-only offering... :pac:


  • #2411
    ItHurtsWhenIP
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,180 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    ...or a comparable service from another reseller of open eir's wholesale ftth products.

    I know, there aren't that many doing so at the moment, but I'd hate people to get into the habit of lazily assuming that ftth is an eir-only offering... :pac:

    Yes ... and I am fully aware of this ... and I was answering the @MachineHead's question about eir :rolleyes: I was doing so in a rush so I didn't want to get into a long drawn out explanation about the state of fibre in the country ;)


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  • #2412
    ItHurtsWhenIP
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,180 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    Machinehead wrote: »
    Just had another visit from the KNN guys, he said that they need to replace the nearest pole to me erect a new one & replace the old copper cable with the fibre line. So that means the copper line for my phone will disappear & phone will run thru' the new fibre line. Is this the correct modus operandi or should they be leaving the copper line for the phone connection?

    It would be unlikely that they will simply replace the copper pair with fibre without an order being placed ... at least in the initial roll-out stages.

    They would love to remove the copper from their network (and flog it off for a$$loads of wedge), so I would expect they will do so down the line.


  • #2413
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,061 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Machinehead wrote: »
    he said that they need to replace the nearest pole to me erect a new one & replace the old copper cable with the fibre line. So that means the copper line for my phone will disappear & phone will run thru' the new fibre line. Is this the correct modus operandi or should they be leaving the copper line for the phone connection?

    Can't see the copper being removed altogether, most likely replacing this run of cable with a new run of copper. Do eir even offer VOIP over FTTH?

    Comreg carried out a consultation on the transition from copper earlier this year

    Consultation - https://www.comreg.ie/publication/transition-from-eirs-copper-network/
    Response - https://www.comreg.ie/publication/transition-from-eiras-copper-network/


  • #2414
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    well theres a roll of eircom fibre cables after been put down outside my house, dont know if thats an indication of progress or not tbh haha


  • #2415
    Strawberry HillBilly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭Strawberry HillBilly


    Gwynston wrote: »
    Sorry not familiar with the area at all - just going by the maps.

    The Ballymascanlon cabinet closest to your X is being upgraded and I presume will be the relay/connecting point for your blue line. Once that's done, you still need to wait for the blue lines in the Ravensdale exchange (which it looks like it's connected to) to be wired for FTTH. That's predicted as "early/mid 2017", but lots around the country are labelled the same, so who knows how longs it's gonna take to wire up all those blue lines (and in what order)?

    I'm in the same boat in Co. Galway. Hopefully sometime next year for us both! :cool:
    Hi @Gwynston is the confirmation of a previously not enabled exchange being upgraded to saying planned for fibre just an indication that this is an enabling point for FTTH to be rolled out from ?


  • #2416
    Shyboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Shyboy


    I decided to check the Eir Fibre Extreme Checker this evening as I do it about twice a week.

    Got the usual message, Fibre Extreme may be available in your area, enter your Eir Code...I was expecting the usual "Not available at your address as yet"

    But...shock...

    It say Fibre Extreme is available at your address!! :eek:

    Our area in Turloughmore, County Galway has had all the fibre and splitter boxes up for the past month or so, but dates were pushed back to launch Early/Mid 2017...it still says that on the map..

    I tried a few neighbours numbers and Eir Codes and they are passing too...:)

    Hopefully, the Eir Checker is Correct...:)


  • #2417
    long_b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,982 ✭✭✭long_b


    Shyboy wrote: »
    I decided to check the Eir Fibre Extreme Checker this evening as I do it about twice a week.

    Got the usual message, Fibre Extreme may be available in your area, enter your Eir Code...I was expecting the usual "Not available at your address as yet"

    But...shock...

    It say Fibre Extreme is available at your address!! :eek:

    Our area in Turloughmore, County Galway has had all the fibre and splitter boxes up for the past month or so, but dates were pushed back to launch Early/Mid 2017...it still says that on the map..

    I tried a few neighbours numbers and Eir Codes and they are passing too...:)

    Hopefully, the Eir Checker is Correct...:)

    So did you order?


  • #2418
    Shyboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Shyboy


    long_b wrote: »
    So did you order?

    U bet...:)

    Eir have to ring to confirm the order within the next 2 days...still worried that the eir checker is not accurate...


  • #2419
    BandMember
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,780 ✭✭✭BandMember


    Shyboy wrote: »
    U bet...:)

    Eir have to ring to confirm the order within the next 2 days...still worried that the eir checker is not accurate...

    Good job you ordered, or the lads would have ran you from this thread altogether! :D :pac::pac::pac:


  • #2420
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Where are you putting in your eircode? I only see it asking for a phone number or an address.


  • #2421
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Where are you putting in your eircode? I only see it asking for a phone number or an address.

    It seems to check the number and if it is tied to a FTTH enabled exchange you are then asked to input your Eircode on a new page. The Eircode is obviously used for more granular checking.


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  • #2422
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Huh. What if I don't have a landline but am in an FTTH area?


  • #2423
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Huh. What if I don't have a landline but am in an FTTH area?

    Use your address?


  • #2424
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,084 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Can you provide a link to where you do the line check please?

    I have tried
    http://fibrerollout.ie/check-my-line/
    but the 'check my line' link is not active :(


  • #2425
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    Can you provide a link to where you do the line check please?

    I have tried
    http://fibrerollout.ie/check-my-line/
    but the 'check my line' link is not active :(

    I have used

    https://www.eir.ie/broadband/

    However I just tried a number that previously gave me a FTTH available message and now it is not so it may not be working.


  • #2426
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »
    Use your address?

    Doesn't seem to result in an eircode prompt. I've tried a few different things, including entering addresses that I know can get FTTH, but I can't get it to ask me for an eircode.


  • #2427
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Doesn't seem to result in an eircode prompt. I've tried a few different things, including entering addresses that I know can get FTTH, but I can't get it to ask me for an eircode.

    I've only ever used phone numbers so it was just a guess. Searching by address is going to be horribly random in Ireland anyway. The Eircode should be the default method of checking for FTTH. I'm in the situation you described earlier. We haven't had a landline for seven years. Whoever devised the search obviously didn't think of people like us.


  • #2428
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    I suppose a way to fool it is use a neighbours phone number, assuming you know any, then your own Eircode.


  • #2429
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »
    Searching by address is going to be horribly random in Ireland anyway. The Eircode should be the default method of checking for FTTH.

    It should, but open eir's systems don't fully support eircodes, as far as I'm aware. That's why I'm curious how eir retail is searching by eircode, because there's no straightforward way of looking up the prequal file by eircode that I'm aware of.


  • #2430
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »
    I suppose a way to fool it is use a neighbours phone number, assuming you know any, then your own Eircode.
    just stick in their postcode, if the same wires pass your house then the results will be the same.


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  • #2431
    long_b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,982 ✭✭✭long_b


    Shyboy wrote: »
    Our area in Turloughmore, County Galway has had all the fibre and splitter boxes up for the past month or so, but dates were pushed back to launch Early/Mid 2017...it still says that on the map..
    .:)

    Interesting to look back on the tracker.
    Would about 2.5 months from start to finish be accurate Shyboy ?


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