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Eir rural FTTH thread

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    murphaph wrote: »
    Maybe some of these blue lines were errors and they will now fall under the NBP.

    They hardly would have done the large amount of preparatory work in Gonzo's case if it was a mistake. Gonzo I think you are overreacting. Your exchange hasn't even been given a live date yet. Your road is likely to be done.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    They hardly would have done the large amount of preparatory work in Gonzo's case if it was a mistake. Gonzo I think you are overreacting. Your exchange hasn't even been given a live date yet. Your road is likely to be done.

    I am over reacting but it's difficult not to be a bit upset when it's taken so long and everywhere else around me just about finished! It will be worth it when it arrives, the speeds shown earlier are something else!

    There really isn't much left to be done on the road considering the short distance, final wiring of ducting and wiring up 300 meters of poles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    They hardly would have done the large amount of preparatory work in Gonzo's case if it was a mistake. Gonzo I think you are overreacting. Your exchange hasn't even been given a live date yet. Your road is likely to be done.
    It does say on fibrerollout map routes can be shorten or extend but I say Gonzo will be grand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Gonzo wrote: »
    I am over reacting but it's difficult not to be a bit upset when it's taken so long and everywhere else around me just about finished! It will be worth it when it arrives, the speeds shown earlier are something else!

    There really isn't much left to be done on the road considering the short distance, final wiring of ducting and wiring up 300 meters of poles.

    As you said earlier probably only a few hours work. You'll be grand!


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just seen a KN crew in the area, they appeared to be installing the junction box on the pole that connects underground cables to the overhead lines near Cornafulla in South Roscommon, so the work is progressing but there is no sign of them concentrating on one area at a time.

    This job was just one team in one van who have since gone elsewhere.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Just seen a KN crew in the area, they appeared to be installing the junction box on the pole that connects underground cables to the overhead lines near Cornafulla in South Roscommon, so the work is progressing but there is no sign of them concentrating on one area at a time.

    This job was just one team in one van who have since gone elsewhere.

    that's the way it's been here most of the time as well, a 1 van crew shows up for an hour and then drives off with several weeks/months gap between most visits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭marcel353


    Dunshaughlin exchange
    Lot of activity at Cross Keys, pulling cable and feeding the pole accross the Kilcock road
    All splitter boxes up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,982 ✭✭✭long_b


    Just looking at the spreadsheet there - currently we reckon there's 12 exchanges at least partly live for FTTH covering 3,252 premises.

    Cavan Virginia
    Cork Ballyclough
    Cork Youghal
    Donegal Dungloe
    Dublin Ballyboden
    Galway Turloughmore
    Mayo Belcarra
    Meath Athboy
    Offaly Rahan
    Roscommon Ballyfarnan
    Wexford Courtown Harbour
    Wexford Killinick


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gonzo wrote: »
    that's the way it's been here most of the time as well, a 1 van crew shows up for an hour and then drives off with several weeks/months gap between most visits.
    I would speculate that this could be down to the availability of hardware, this project is consuming a huge amount of resources and they can only produce a certain amount of equipment at a time.

    I imagine the depot receives 20 junction boxes and they send out a crew to to the next 20 junctions on the list and if your no 21, then you'll have to wait for the next delivery.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    long_b wrote: »
    Just looking at the spreadsheet there - currently we reckon there's 12 exchanges at least partly live for FTTH covering 3,252 premises.

    Cavan Virginia
    Cork Ballyclough
    Cork Youghal
    Donegal Dungloe
    Dublin Ballyboden
    Galway Turloughmore
    Mayo Belcarra
    Meath Athboy
    Offaly Rahan
    Roscommon Ballyfarnan
    Wexford Courtown Harbour
    Wexford Killinick

    Castlebar is definitely live for FTTH.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,982 ✭✭✭long_b


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Castlebar is definitely live for FTTH.

    That's mad - says 1330 premises on FTTH
    That's 230 more than they planned for
    Sure this is an error?
    How come we haven't heard about connections?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Castlebar is definitely live for FTTH.

    Those premises are more likely to be part of the 66 regional town rollout. As far as I know Castlebar has not been mentioned in any of the recent Openeir Techbytes or map updates.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    The 1330 Castlebar premises don't belong on the rural FTTH tracker. Also somebody has entered a figure of 400 premises for Turloughmore in Galway. This is also incorrect as there has been no announcement from Openeir. The true live rural figure stands at 2852 or 2.68% of planned premises.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Castlebar is definitely live for FTTH.

    But it ain't rural.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭legocrazy505


    But it ain't rural.

    But a certain someone is from there, gotta keep them happy. ;)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    I would speculate that this could be down to the availability of hardware, this project is consuming a huge amount of resources and they can only produce a certain amount of equipment at a time.

    I imagine the depot receives 20 junction boxes and they send out a crew to to the next 20 junctions on the list and if your no 21, then you'll have to wait for the next delivery.

    perhaps that is true and perhaps that's why the small section of road I live on is left hanging.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭Dr. Nick


    rob808 wrote: »
    Kiltale done and it only 2km from me

    IS Kiltale done?
    It looks like it's done on my road (off R154) but I'm not qualified to say. New pole gone up outside for sure, some square box on a pole next to it, I can't find pics earlier in the thread with what a 'fibre pole' looks like!
    I know there's a connector of some sort but not on every pole? Can someone re-post the pics?

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    Dr. Nick wrote: »
    IS Kiltale done?
    It looks like it's done on my road (off R154) but I'm not qualified to say. New pole gone up outside for sure, some square box on a pole next to it, I can't find pics earlier in the thread with what a 'fibre pole' looks like!
    I know there's a connector of some sort but not on every pole? Can someone re-post the pics?

    Thanks.
    Im not 100% sure but there was some cones in front of few houses the one Eir using Kitale part of the Tara exchange?.I think there down for spring 2017 not sure what to be looking for but I think it done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,084 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Dr. Nick wrote: »
    IS Kiltale done?
    It looks like it's done on my road (off R154) but I'm not qualified to say. New pole gone up outside for sure, some square box on a pole next to it, I can't find pics earlier in the thread with what a 'fibre pole' looks like!
    I know there's a connector of some sort but not on every pole? Can someone re-post the pics?

    Thanks.

    This one?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=101721861&postcount=2201


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo



    those black box's are splicing box's and are put on poles that are labeled as Wiring Points. Wiring Points would have those black box's beside a coil of fiber. These sort of poles are 1 in ever 3 or 4. The first pole after ducting would be Wiring Point 1 and every 3 to 4 poles would be another wiring point and so on. the final wiring point would be 1 to 2 poles from the end of a blue line.

    When an area is initially wired, the wiring is done with a place holder for the splice box's, a few weeks later they install the black splicing box's, then 4-6 week's passes and the area goes live. (some area's can get wired up for 1-3 month's early and have to wait for full exchange to go live).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭digiman


    Gonzo wrote: »
    those black box's are splicing box's and are put on poles that are labeled as Wiring Points. Wiring Points would have those black box's beside a coil of fiber. These sort of poles are 1 in ever 3 or 4. The first pole after ducting would be Wiring Point 1 and every 3 to 4 poles would be another wiring point and so on. the final wiring point would be 1 to 2 poles from the end of a blue line.

    When an area is initially wired, the wiring is done with a place holder for the splice box's, a few weeks later they install the black splicing box's, then 4-6 week's passes and the area goes live. (some area's can get wired up for 1-3 month's early and have to wait for full exchange to go live).

    Why is everyone talking about wiring? Surely to god that is not an "OpenEir" terminology?

    It sounds like an electrical term rather than a FTTH term, splicing/patching sounds like the more appropriate term.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭irishkopite 2011


    digiman wrote: »
    Why is everyone talking about wiring? Surely to god that is not an "OpenEir" terminology?

    It sounds like an electrical term rather than a FTTH term, splicing/patching sounds like the more appropriate term.
    They are not actually called wiring points, the WP stands for work point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭ratracer


    I've been following this thread with a slight tinge of jealousy as I didn't think I'd see FTTH in my area for a long while yet. I was pleasantly surprised to see contractors laying ducting (and cable I think) down my road earlier this week.

    I asked the lads how long it normally takes for live connection, and he said that he didn't know officially, but previous areas had tended to be live about 4-6 weeks after they had laid cables. AFAIK, the exchange I will be connected to is partially live, I'm about 5km from it.

    Can anyone on here estimate the 'live' connection time, or what speeds I can expect?

    TIA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    ratracer wrote: »
    I've been following this thread with a slight tinge of jealousy as I didn't think I'd see FTTH in my area for a long while yet. I was pleasantly surprised to see contractors laying ducting (and cable I think) down my road earlier this week.

    I asked the lads how long it normally takes for live connection, and he said that he didn't know officially, but previous areas had tended to be live about 4-6 weeks after they had laid cables. AFAIK, the exchange I will be connected to is partially live, I'm about 5km from it.

    Can anyone on here estimate the 'live' connection time, or what speeds I can expect?

    TIA
    The speed are 150mb/300/1Gb as for live dates you have to keep checking www.fibrerollout.ie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭daraghwal


    Does anyone know what is happening with the exchanges that previously said 2017-2020 but now say e.g. "560 premises in this exchange can now access up to 100Mb/s fibre broadband. open eir's FTTH fibre rollout programme inlcudes premises in this exchange area"? Will they be the last to be done or does anyone know what way that is working


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    daraghwal wrote: »
    Does anyone know what is happening with the exchanges that previously said 2017-2020 but now say e.g. "560 premises in this exchange can now access up to 100Mb/s fibre broadband. open eir's FTTH fibre rollout programme inlcudes premises in this exchange area"? Will they be the last to be done or does anyone know what way that is working

    No idea what that map is all about - noticed the same thing on my exchange a while ago.
    I asked for clarification from openeir and they told me all blue line areas will be done by end of 2018. From that I take that the map is a very rough guide to a timeline and that the timelines keep changing. Seems to be a complete slow down on the rollout from keeping an eye on this thread anyways. Maybe there are supply issues as mentioned earlier. As weather hasn't been too bad for work, and the holidays haven't kicked in yet either.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    damienirel wrote: »
    No idea what that map is all about - noticed the same thing on my exchange a while ago.
    I asked for clarification from openeir and they told me all blue line areas will be done by end of 2018. From that I take that the map is a very rough guide to a timeline and that the timelines keep changing. Seems to be a complete slow down on the rollout from keeping an eye on this thread anyways. Maybe there are supply issues as mentioned earlier. As weather hasn't been too bad for work, and the holidays haven't kicked in yet either.

    Open Eir said on twitter that they were working on a new fiber rollout map during the summer, still no sign of that map.

    There must be supply issues alright, my road was marked for wiring nearly 3 weeks ago and has been left hanging ever since. They will have to remark it again as the marking has all but disappeared at this stage. The roads behind me where wired 3 weeks ago but there is still some work to be finished and there is still reels of cable and cones left lying on the ground for weeks as lads are elsewhere working.

    The timelines are very rough estimated and get moved on every 2 to 3 months, even the wording sometimes completely changes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    Gonzo wrote: »
    Open Eir said on twitter that they were working on a new fiber rollout map during the summer, still no sign of that map.

    There must be supply issues alright, my road was marked for wiring nearly 3 weeks ago and has been left hanging ever since. They will have to remark it again as the marking has all but disappeared at this stage. The roads behind me where wired 3 weeks ago but there is still some work to be finished and there is still reels of cable and cones left lying on the ground for weeks as lads are elsewhere working.

    The timelines are very rough estimated and get moved on every 2 to 3 months, even the wording sometimes completely changes.

    Yeah it really looks strange at this stage that you are not connected yet Gonzo.
    I would assume it's something out of their hands at this stage, there would be no good reason to stop all progress at this late stage of work on your line. Try and keep punters happy etc.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    damienirel wrote: »
    Yeah it really looks strange at this stage that you are not connected yet Gonzo.
    I would assume it's something out of their hands at this stage, there would be no good reason to stop all progress at this late stage of work on your line. Try and keep punters happy etc.

    my road is probably not gonna make the first live date for Dunshaughlin, no date for the exchange yet.

    If Dunshaughlin does not have a live January date when the rollout map is next updated, then there's a chance my road will be done if we've moved to February.

    The exchange is about 80% wired up at this stage, most of them lines are still waiting on the splicing box's. They are working on the old N3 between Rathbeggan and Dunshaughlin all last week and this week.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 SteveD92


    Can anyone advise who to contact at eir to query why fibre isn't live on my road yet. We are on the blue line and we're told our date of going live in Ballyboden was the 16th November - but when I ring the sales teams they all say I can't order as my line doesn't have fibre yet. We are on Cruagh Road.

    On the eir website the phone line checker says there's 1Gb internet which is great - but when the address is put in it says just 2mb.

    No one seems to have an idea of when my road goes live even though all of the work is done.

    Thanks In advance


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