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Past30Now wrote: »

They were very good. Cool, calm in possession,bigger and stronger than our lads. We did very well, particularly in the second quarter, but the better team won.

Don't think Vinnies will win All Ireland. They are getting on, and there are better teams out there. Might win Leinster as it is bit like the county championship. Dublin well ahead of rest and likely competitiors like Portlaoise gone. Rhode be only team might take them.

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

Not sure if this is what you're referring to but the amount of slipping on parnell was crazy.

Think Vins bit of quality forward killed us off. We were never really a super high scoring teams, Vins have Quinn and Varley inside. On that note I thought Connolly was very quiet besides a couple of nice passes in the 2nd half. I was keeping an eye on him and he often stood static when Vins were attacking so the play just bypassed him. Not to take anything away from Tom Quinn who marked him very well.

Noticed that too but he created space for other players with his off the ball running. Would like to see Quinn, Graham Hannigan and Shane Boland get run out for Dublin next year.

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

I was saying the opposite! I found he was completely static for a lot of Vins attacks, needs to influence games more as Vins go forward but I'm sure he will.

Even on a quiet day his class is evident though, he only really did 2 significant things and they were inch perfect assists. I just thought he should have been moving around and trying to get on the ball a lot more.

He was static at times. But he did a lot of off ball work taking his man of out of game and did win most balls that went his way. He probably setup 5/6 points in the game but you are correct he needs to get more involved on the ball.

Gael85 wrote: »

Thought Brennan should have got straight red for the strike. The referee took the easy option with 2 yellows

Yeah he copped out. The high tackle might have been red, the strike definitely was - both together in a few seconds is as obvious a red as you can get. I assume that suits Ger in terms of the ban he'll get?

Connolly was static for a lot of the game, but on top of the two "Hollywood" assists, he set up a number of other scores. There was one beaut in the first half where he got the ball on the stand side, with his back to goal, Quinn behind him, moved towards centrefield, both Boland and Hannigan went towards him, and he flicked in a hand pass to an oncoming player for an easy score, taking our three lads out of the game. Simple and yet brilliant.

Past30Now wrote: »

Connolly was static for a lot of the game, but on top of the two "Hollywood" assists, he set up a number of other scores. There was one beaut in the first half where he got the ball on the stand side, with his back to goal, Quinn behind him, moved towards centrefield, both Boland and Hannigan went towards him, and he flicked in a hand pass to an oncoming player for an easy score, taking our three lads out of the game. Simple and yet brilliant.

Just saw that score again, and it wasn't that easy for Gavin Burke. He was a real handful too.

Bambi wrote:

See the Dublin Senior Hurling Panel was announced. A lot of the old guard cleaned out. Reckon Cunningham knows he's gone if 2017 is a wash out, so he's decided that anyone who's not totally bought into his regime needs to be dropped.

Kelly must be just injured beyond repair. How we can afford to drop someone like him I don't know, apart from his skill he reads the game very well. I'll certainly miss him even if he has been off form recently.

Bambi wrote:

Heard the same re Kelly, but gave also heard a lot of younger lads are responsive to Cunninghams approach, you just wouldn't know

True I guess the 2013 team was never going to be his team and he needs to put his mark on it.
But most lads would be responsive if it took them from a sub to a starter.
I guess the positive thing to do is support the new set up.

Bonniedog wrote: »

He has had reasonably good record with Barrs, Ballygunner, UCC and was part of coaching and selection team when Cork won senior AIs in 90s and noughties.

A lot of his difficulties with Dublin are clearly to do with personality and team culture, but they haven't improved under his watch. Held their own against most of the top 7/8, but still way off winning an AI.

I would agrue his main difficulty he is facing is trying to get the team playing a style of hurling that they are just not accustomed too.

I've gone to most of the games under his tenure (for my sins) and we are a mess tactically. The players look confused half the time and it's just not working. The amount of times we played ourselves into trouble was absolutely criminal.

For me, it seems he is trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. He should have been told his services were no longer required at the end of the season. I'll go to the games this year but I am not expecting anything different from the past 2 years.

Bonniedog wrote: »

Part of it is that Daly was one of the lads. Very close to them personally. GC is completely different type of person. It seems to be quite a distant relationship between him and players. Some of them couldn't get used to that.

He is undoubtedly a great coach, and in fairness to him he has tried new things. Works sometimes but short game is suicide imho against likes of Cats.

Great coach me arse. Where are the results, with us, or even the sign of progress, to back that up?

Anthony Daly has a very, very genial personality. It's really hard to see anyone getting on the wrong side of him. It may always be a problem for him in management, in that he veers too far in one direction. But it doesn't change the fact that in modern days sports, man management is becoming just as important as tactics.

All the indicators are that GC is piss poor at it. It shows in the sheer number of player who are walking away. Whether they are over the hill, or are still able to make a contribution or not, the manner in which panel departures are being handled, compared to the footballers, is very worrying. It is a very poor inditment on Cunningham, going forward. The days of the dictatorial, old school managers, are coming to an end. The likes of Brian Cody are the exception, rather than the rule imo. In KK, there are massive amounts of success on offer, to make up for Brian Cody's rather forbidding demeanour. That is far from the case in Dublin.

Given the massive amounts of time and dedication it takes to be an inter county these days, players are no longer content to just put up and shut up. They'll speak out, or even worse, walk away, if they don't like the lay of the land. Players becoming more and more bolshie, does not sit well with a lot of traditionalists & I get that. But I don't have a problem with it, given the massive commitment levels involved.

CG falls down very, very badly in the man mgt department & it's time to sever the ties. Fcuk it, it was time last year. I wonder are there egos in the DCB, that would rather see GC see out his agreed term, than admit they made a mistake?

I wouldn't even worry about the results so much, if the panel itself wasn't so unsettled and players (including the best of the lot of them) are leaving in droves & unlike Jack Mc or Rory, it's under a cloud and not where everything is out on the table and lads are willing to talk openly about the decisions they have made.

If GC needs time to put his stamp on things, or blood new players, having the patience to give him time and space to do that, is one thing. I think we all learned the lessons with Pat Gilroy there. Sorry to keep on bringing up the footballers, but they set the standard for so much excellence these days, it's hard not to hold them up as an example of the right way to do things. That may be very unfair to Ger Cunningham. He should be given the freedom to be his own man and not a Jim Gavin clone. But not to the degree that he gets a free pass to keep on alienating all and sundry around him.