The One About Optimum Strategies for Co-Op Content...

PetKing wrote: »

I think I just need to give a wider berth to the cannon captain. I'm generally a bomb thrower and tended to move up with the cannoneer in anticipation of staying by the servitor. Turret #2 is the one just before the cannon captain and he's fine. It's turret #3 that I need to be wary of, the one that spawn s while the servitor is roaming towards the plate after the cannoneer has left.

I tend to stare down the turret, and only turn away from it when throwing the bombs.

I wonder if a trip-mine would disable the turret?

To me it reads like you (PetKing) are putting too much of an emphasis on getting the turrets down immediately - they are a threat but not a massive one (imo). I just take it out with my Chaos Dogma from distance - 4 shots or so and its gone.

My checklist (if not going to kill the captain myself) was:

1. Main body of ads.
2. Turret.
3. Remain ads to take some more pressure off Cal while he then goes for the Captain.

Then I go get the cannon.

If I am going for the Captain myself steps 1 and 2 remain the same. When heading for the captain I try to see where he is positioned and looking on my approach and then flank him.

As Generic says - stay back. The area around the stairs is fine for 90% of the time here. You only need to go beyond this area to 1. get the captain and 2. throw bombs. If you aren't the one to take out the captain, there is no need for you to move forward until a bomb is to be thrown. You can still get line of sight on any ads or the turret as needed. In the first phase too, the cannoners can fire a shot into the turret if needed, they don't need to be saving shots for Aksis.

Cormac... wrote:

I was on your side during the encouter. You move/stand WAY too far forward

I admit I definitely move too far forward, was just the method I learned from NM, it was never an issue then but now it is. I need to play more conservatively with the turrets in play.

^^^with Black Spindle^^^

a good vid guide on Vosik.



Wouldn't personally use Gally on captains, feels like I would be leaving a lot of DPS out vs Vosik - but its a good vid guide in general.

He backs Generic's holding the bombs for an extra phase plan too. I generally prefer to get Vosik down to DPS as quickly as possible - because people die far too commonly, imo, to add in additional rounds of ads, for an extra bit of DPS from the bombs.

PetKing wrote: »

There was an incident last night on Vosik at the captain. I was using my HMG on him, and Dude fired a rocket from behind me. I was between them. The rocket hit the captain but I died from a bizarre misadventure in the blast.

I guess the lesson to be learned from this is don't get between dude and his target

PetKing wrote: »

I remember my first Crota where I danced the strafing dance during the rockets part! Good to freshen up on my strat.

ah that ledge at Crota. Where so many Guardians died due to friendly fire!

PetKing wrote: »

That was essentially what we were doing last night yeah Knave? You bubbles for Abuses?

Datto kind of glossed over how the right side manages ads, saying they just deal DPS to the Templar?!

Yeah, kinda. I went left with Abuses initially, more to help out with the Oracle spawns, if they where both on that side. If I had a bubble ready, I'd pop it on the TP. Towards the end of the attempt though, I started to rotate back to the Right side.

I think maybe we should leave at least 1 more over on left with Relic Holder, but keep them at the back. That way he can rotate over to Right side and help with Adds.

I'm thinking, if we do it this way, we can rotate out the person who stays at the back, as they are fairly well protected behind the pillars, making it slightly easier to get off some heavy damage. Once that persons heavy is gone, swap out with someone else. That way, Relic Holder can call for add help if needed, and if not, just help out with Right Side adds and get the SS shots into Templar.

When I switched to SS, we got him down to roughly half health fairly quickly. SS seems to be the heavy to go with for boss phases.

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

Not one of his best guides at all at all imho. Seeing him running relic on Templar is not as useful as you'd think as it really does gloss over "oh yeah, the 4 boyos over there are doing some s**t too, but don't sweat it".... I was one of those guys

We were trying the challenge with 1 Titan, it was laughable how bad we were doing, especially since the death by oracles wipes your super so you just gotta wait around for 4 mins after that

It would be nice to see a PoV vid from one of his Fireteam on Right Side. One thing from the vid though, 2 on left and 4 right. Templars health went down fairly quickly so it must be just, concentrate on adds. When none left, spam heavy. Return to adds. He goes over to Right Side at one point and there's nothing. He even has time to take out a Minotaur in the cave.

Another factor to remember is, Math Class have run the 'No Teleport' strategy before, so are aware of what is required. Don't know about you or the lads, but I've never run it that way. (Only ever ran the whole encounter legit a handful of times, then on to cheese mode)

We had three Titans last night, made things no less hairy.

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Post on Reddit of a bloke soloing the challenge, with a strategy that works for a fireteam. Relic holder is responsible for both circles, with the rest of the team doing DPS/ mob control. Seems fairly straightforward, probably need a bit of luck with mobs etc.

That's basically what we did. The relic holder was responsible for blocking the Templar, the other 5 stayed at the front area where you jump down and all dps the Templar ignoring the adds as they stay down in the main area.