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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Is anyone still worried about what Dana said back in April, about Conor not fighting in NYC?

    http://www.punditarena.com/mmaufc/sraftery/dana-white-reveals-expects-conor-mcgregor-return/

    Whenever I hear people discussing what'll happen with Conor and 205 I get a bit uneasy - last night definitely strengthens his hand immensely when it comes to negotiating but we've seen that the UFC are not for backing down :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    ..the UFC are not for backing down :/

    Different company now though. The face of the company might look the same and Dana is still president and all that, but he no longer is one of the owners. Conor is the their biggest fighter in terms of gate / ppv and so I really can't see them refusing him MSG if he wants to fight on that card... and boy does he.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    I'm a sucker for believing in the hype from fighters and their coaching team. As far as I was concerned conor will be dancing around for 5 rounds peppering Diaz. I only noticed a small increase in his cardio compared to the last fight. I see conor been capable for 3 rounds. Can he increase that to 4 or 5 rounds? And if so what type of time frame?

    Also does fighting at 155 or 145 automatically increase his gas tank? Is that how it works?

    He gassed in pretty much one round last time. This time he lasted for five rounds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Saipanne wrote: »
    He gassed in pretty much one round last time. This time he lasted for five rounds.

    He lasted the 5 rounds but he was gassed plenty in the fight.

    Which is even more credit to him for pushing through it and getting the decision, well done to McGregor and to team SBG.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,196 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Is anyone still worried about what Dana said back in April, about Conor not fighting in NYC?

    http://www.punditarena.com/mmaufc/sraftery/dana-white-reveals-expects-conor-mcgregor-return/

    Whenever I hear people discussing what'll happen with Conor and 205 I get a bit uneasy - last night definitely strengthens his hand immensely when it comes to negotiating but we've seen that the UFC are not for backing down :/

    He also said McGregor's next fight would probably be 202. I don't think he was ruling out McGregor at 205 just saying it wouldn't be his next fight.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    I hope he skips 205 and rests up for a bit and gets a good camp going agin. The body needs time after a fight like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    I hope he skips 205 and rests up for a bit and gets a good camp going agin. The body needs time after a fight like that.

    Probably why Diaz wise to say not fighting again till the rematch. His homer Simpson like skull gets an awful pounding.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Nate will vape for a year and come back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭HanaleiJ5N


    I don't know why I like McGregor, he's loud, brash and can be a bit of an ass, but I just can't help but like the man, I guess there is an underlying charisma there, and a lot of the "noise" is nothing more than playing the promotion/hype game. So I'm very happy for him to have come through this.

    All along I had wondered how will he respond to that first UFC defeat which was always going to happen. (I'm just glad it didn't come at the hands of Aldo, I never had anything against Aldo until after he lost to CMcG, since then he has been far from classy in any of his comments when it comes to McG, particularly when he was revelling in McGregor's 196 defeat)

    People say Diaz kicked his ass the last day, what a load of nonsense. He gave Diaz a battering, but he massively underestimated him, he kept going for that photo finish but Diaz, despite having his face cut to pieces took it in a way no opponent McGregor has faced ever has. Diaz suckered him, he lost his composure and Diaz went in for the kill. An ass kicking that was not, but Diaz one million percent deserved that win.

    Have a wee look at wikipedia. (Sorry guys, casual blow-in fan alert :() Diaz's win loss score is now 19-11. 11 defeats seems a little high, but look a little closer at the 10 defeats up to tonight; one loss by submission, one by TKO, and 8 (now 9) by decision, so in almost all of his defeats he went right to the death. In 30 fights he has only been stopped twice, even to someone like myself who had not heard of the guy up until about a year ago, it's obvious that this guy is a warrior. And Conor probably knew that going into 196 but knowing it is one thing, experiencing it is a whole new ball game.

    McGregor was never going to knock this guy out. But he did learn from the last day, he knew not to go to ground with Nate, he just told him to get up each time he knocked him down, and I think he defended really well in that respect throughout the fight, when Nate did finally get him down it was far too late.

    If he is going to make it at LW then that first defeat to Diaz was probably the best thing that could have happened him, his left hand will probably knock out any opponent at 145, not necessarily the case at 155, it's still a powerful tool in his arsenal at 155 but they're going to be a little better able to take it in that division. And hopefully now he's learned that weight divisions exist for a reason, this talk of going for the welterweight belt after he defeated Aldo was bordering on the ridiculous, he'd get eaten alive by the best in that division, he's too small. But he'd be a nice addition to the LW category, hopefully that division will be his primary focus after the Aldo fight, and he'll be all the more ready for it now thanks to Diaz.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    That one too loss was a shin to the head which didn't acually knock him out it just stunned him https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCtHra_cZKM
    Nate always makes me think of if your gonna be dumb you better be tough


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  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Seeing donald cerrone at 170 last night made me feel Connor was lucky he had diaz , man looked incredible at 170. I've been a cowboy fan since his wec days but that was possibly the best I've seen him. It's fight I'd love to see connor take at either weight but I really wouldn't like to call it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,764 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Anyone else got post-fight depression? It was such a great fight that knowing we will have to wait six months to see Conor fight again is getting me down :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Anyone else got post-fight depression? It was such a great fight that knowing we will have to wait six months to see Conor fight again is getting me down :o

    Totally. Was at it, and backstage chatting to his dad, Niall Horan and a few others, and getting pushed away by Kanye's crew. Flying back to normality tomorrow :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Anyone else got post-fight depression? It was such a great fight that knowing we will have to wait six months to see Conor fight again is getting me down :o

    Six months? No way will it be that long.

    We could even see him in just over two and half months on the 205 card @ Madison Square Garden.
    I hope he skips 205 and rests up for a bit and gets a good camp going agin. The body needs time after a fight like that.

    I'd say ordinarily he would not fight for four months at least after a fight like that, you're right, but the whole 205 thing in NY seems to be something he wants to be a part of badly, so much so that I think it's a possibility we might see him there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    Is anyone still worried about what Dana said back in April, about Conor not fighting in NYC?

    http://www.punditarena.com/mmaufc/sraftery/dana-white-reveals-expects-conor-mcgregor-return/

    Whenever I hear people discussing what'll happen with Conor and 205 I get a bit uneasy - last night definitely strengthens his hand immensely when it comes to negotiating but we've seen that the UFC are not for backing down :/

    I would not be one bit concerned about anything Dana says anymore. He has a certain amount of influence under the Fertitta's but he doesn't bring in money like McGregor/Rousey/Jones.

    His days in the UFC are numbered. He just doesn't know it yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭Duggie2012


    John_D80 wrote: »
    I would not be one bit concerned about anything Dana says anymore. He has a certain amount of influence under the Fertitta's but he doesn't bring in money like McGregor/Rousey/Jones.

    His days in the UFC are numbered. He just doesn't know it yet.

    we could have a job in the FAI coming up fairly soon....


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    John_D80 wrote: »
    I would not be one bit concerned about anything Dana says anymore. He has a certain amount of influence under the Fertitta's but he doesn't bring in money like McGregor/Rousey/Jones.

    His days in the UFC are numbered. He just doesn't know it yet.


    that's why I assumed Conor came late to the pre fight conference and why there's an obvious disdain there now. If you just bought the UCF would you let this slime bag bully your number one cash cow?? especially considering rousey and Jones are untenable now at present. I believe conor is now in the position he was always aiming for, and the new owners may well give him what he's looking for, UFC202 just cemented his status.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Losing to Diaz might be the best thing that ever happened to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭onlyme!


    The last round must have been the longest five minutes of conors life.

    i lost count of the amount of times conor looked up at the clock!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,102 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Doesn't seem like he wants to, but I'd like to see him drop to 145 for one (hopefully successful) title defense against Aldo, then vacate it, and move to 155 permanently.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Sh1t is about the hit the fan!

    I've a feeling it could be a long wait till we see Conor in the Octagon again. There is trouble brewing between him and Dana/UFC. It bubbled up for UFC 200 and you could sense the tension with how the press conference went, hell Conor has tension even with the UFC Commentator/Employee Joe Rogan.

    The UFC are going to make Conor fight Aldo next or he loses the belt. Conor has 0 interest in that fight and arguably rightfully so. The UFC will have no choice but to strip Conor of his belt as if they don't, it will be seen as a major slap in the face to the other UFC fighters and pure Conor favoritism. Depending on how badly Conor takes the stripping of the belt could indicate how badly the rift will last.

    Conor has no interest in the Aldo fight as he doesn't think its as big PPV seller as McGregor Diaz III or McGregor Alvarez or even McGregor GSP. Conor is looking towards a bigger more ambitious version of MMA fighting, while the UFC is trying to maintain order and from their perspective rightfully so as whats made UFC a rising product and boxing a failing product is proper structure to the fighting game. Conor has become bigger and transcended the UFC's rigid structure of belts and divisions to the superfights and the big PPV paydays. Conor has ambitions that are bigger than what he is allowed to do in the UFC they need to maintain the order or the UFC falls apart, this is where the tension lies.

    The UFC needs Conor, he is by far the biggest draw they have and imo has surpassed Rhonda. No other card compares to a Conor card, UFC200 was a disaster without Conor. But on the flip side, Conor needs to the UFC too, as the UFC has all the top fighters and so Conor can't have superfights without the UFC's fighters. That leaves Conor with only 2 options, WWE cameo, Boxing Cameo. He's been flirting with both constantly in the last 12 months. So i think if the rift is bad enough after they strip his belt, then he'll definitely take a break form the UFC for a year, do a WWE cameo or a boxing fight and then wait for the UFC to beg for him to come back.

    IMO it would be smart for the UFC to play ball with Conor, tell him if he fights Aldo near the end of the year for the belt, they will promise him the Croke Park fight he's always wanted...I think it will be an interesting couple of weeks ahead for the future of Conor and the UFC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭Duggie2012


    Sh1t is about the hit the fan!

    I think what Conor means here is he is setting up a 'superfight' with Ronda. Weight classes don't matter to him and now even gender. What??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭SteM


    He's under contract with the ufc. How could he just leave the ufc for a year to go to wrestling or boxing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭Todd Toddington III


    Sh1t is about to hit the fan!

    He's setting up a tag team UFC match, Mcgregor and Nate (the Notordiaz Twins) vs Kahib and Alvarez (Tag Team name tbc)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    If he went to the wwe I'd just lose all respect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    The only appearance mcgregor will make with the wwe would be at their biggest event wrestlemania which takes place usually around march or april every year.

    Theres no way we dont see mcgregor fight again between now and then. I also think the ufc would be crazy to keep him of the 205 nyc card if he is fit and able to go


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    SteM wrote: »
    He's under contract with the ufc. How could he just leave the ufc for a year to go to wrestling or boxing?

    Maybe not boxing but surely he can go to the WWE as its not a fight promotion or does he need permission from the UFC? Did Rhonda need permission?

    Conor has been talking a lot of sh1t at the WWE for awhile now for no good reason, seems a little bit of a setup to me. Mayweather made $20m from his WWE appearance, i don't think its too far-fetched to think he could be setting himself up for an easy payday.

    $3m for a 5 round brawl with Nate Diaz or $3m to talk sh1t and fake fight in the WWE?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭Easy Rod


    Saipanne wrote: »
    If he went to the wwe I'd just lose all respect.

    Eh? It's just like saying if he acted in a movie you'd lose all respect?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Easy Rod wrote: »
    Eh? It's just like saying if he acted in a movie you'd lose all respect?

    I think it would further the narrative that the wwe and the UFC are the same thing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭Easy Rod


    Saipanne wrote: »
    I think it would further the narrative that the wwe and the UFC are the same thing.

    I don't think anyone actually thinks that though. Ronda has already made an appearance and then you have Brock and CM Punk who came the other way.

    Listen, I'm not a fan of him doing it but it's easy money if he chooses to make a one-off appearance (He's not going to do it full-time) and to say you'd lose all respect is a bit ott.


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