Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

Heisenberg1

Wow I just watched the fight, it was some fight Diaz can take one hell of a beating. I don't know much about UFC or how they score but Conor was lucky in the 3rd round he was really rocking but he fought a clever fight and knew when to hang back when he had to. Diaz reminds of that Simpsons episode were Dr Hibbert said he could hit Homer in the head with a surgical 2x4 all day and he would not feel it, Diaz just kept coming.

Saipanne

Easy Rod wrote: »

I don't think anyone actually thinks that though. Ronda has already made an appearance and then you have Brock and CM Punk who came the other way.

Listen, I'm not a fan of him doing it but it's easy money if he chooses to make a one-off appearance (He's not going to do it full-time) and to say you'd lose all respect is a bit ott.

Agree to disagree.

0byme75341jo28

How on earth do you think McGregor is going to fight in Croke Park? A large portion of the GAA community nearly shat themselves when they let the soccer and rugby teams play in Croke Park, can you imagine what they'd be like if they let this "blood sport"/"human cock fighting" take place there? Joe Brolly, one of the biggest names in the GAA right now (even if he is just a massive **** stirrer), is a MAJOR opponent of the sport. People will listen to his opinion and agree with it. Can you imagine the spin the residents would put on it regarding the "violent roided up thugs" attending?

It's never going to happen, maybe at the Aviva, but never Croke Park.

Saipanne

Wilson Faint Greenback wrote: »

How on earth do you think McGregor is going to fight in Croke Park? A large portion of the GAA community nearly shat themselves when they let the soccer and rugby teams play in Croke Park, can you imagine what they'd be like if they let this "blood sport"/"human cock fighting" take place there? Joe Brolly, one of the biggest names in the GAA right now (even if he is just a massive **** stirrer), is a MAJOR opponent of the sport. People will listen to his opinion and agree with it. Can you imagine the spin the residents would put on it regarding the "violent roided up thugs" attending?

It's never going to happen, maybe at the Aviva, but never Croke Park.

You're probably right, but the gaa do love money though.

0byme75341jo28

Saipanne wrote: »

You're probably right, but the gaa do love money though.

If it was just about the money they'd take it no problem, but I think it could potentially cause a civil war within the organisation itself. Or maybe I'm just being dramatic :pac:

Devastator

Lads has there been any more word on the foot/ankle/shin injury from the fight? I've only seen couple interview/presser videos from shortly after the fight. Did anything come out about it yesterday or today that I've missed?

Easy Rod

Saipanne wrote: »

Agree to disagree.

No, that's not the way things work around here. We must argue the point until neither of us really knows what we're arguing for anymore and one of us admits defeat due to confusion.

slicus ricus

Wilson Faint Greenback wrote: »

How on earth do you think McGregor is going to fight in Croke Park? A large portion of the GAA community nearly shat themselves when they let the soccer and rugby teams play in Croke Park, can you imagine what they'd be like if they let this "blood sport"/"human cock fighting" take place there? Joe Brolly, one of the biggest names in the GAA right now (even if he is just a massive **** stirrer), is a MAJOR opponent of the sport. People will listen to his opinion and agree with it. Can you imagine the spin the residents would put on it regarding the "violent roided up thugs" attending?

It's never going to happen, maybe at the Aviva, but never Croke Park.

The main problem with doing a PPV event in Ireland is the curfew we have here in legislation here. In order for it to be worth UFC's while putting McGregor on a card outside of the US, the main event would have to be on for US time (i.e. 5-6am here) in order to achieve any sort of worthwhile PPV buy-rate. In Ireland you are not allowed hold a public event that late.

Saipanne

Easy Rod wrote: »

No, that's not the way things work around here. We must argue the point until neither of us really knows what we're arguing for anymore and one of us admits defeat due to confusion.

That may be so, but I still say he could take Alvarez before defending his FW belt in early 2017.

harney

Wilson Faint Greenback wrote: »

How on earth do you think McGregor is going to fight in Croke Park? A large portion of the GAA community nearly shat themselves when they let the soccer and rugby teams play in Croke Park, can you imagine what they'd be like if they let this "blood sport"/"human cock fighting" take place there? Joe Brolly, one of the biggest names in the GAA right now (even if he is just a massive **** stirrer), is a MAJOR opponent of the sport. People will listen to his opinion and agree with it. Can you imagine the spin the residents would put on it regarding the "violent roided up thugs" attending?

It's never going to happen, maybe at the Aviva, but never Croke Park.

I'd imagine that the GAA see soccer and rugby as potential threats to their sports, numbers wise, less so MMA.

Billy86

Richard tea wrote: »

I'm a sucker for believing in the hype from fighters and their coaching team. As far as I was concerned conor will be dancing around for 5 rounds peppering Diaz. I only noticed a small increase in his cardio compared to the last fight. I see conor been capable for 3 rounds. Can he increase that to 4 or 5 rounds? And if so what type of time frame?

Also does fighting at 155 or 145 automatically increase his gas tank? Is that how it works?

Haha, got a text after the second from a mate about that - "Tatum'll flustigate him!

SteM

Hazys wrote: »

SteM wrote: »

He's under contract with the ufc. How could he just leave the ufc for a year to go to wrestling or boxing?

Maybe not boxing but surely he can go to the WWE as its not a fight promotion or does he need permission from the UFC? Did Rhonda need permission?

Conor has been talking a lot of sh1t at the WWE for awhile now for no good reason, seems a little bit of a setup to me. Mayweather made $20m from his WWE appearance, i don't think its too far-fetched to think he could be setting himself up for an easy payday.

$3m for a 5 round brawl with Nate Diaz or $3m to talk sh1t and fake fight in the WWE?

Of course they'd need the ufc cooperation to appear in the wwe. Why would the ufc let their top guy make money for another promotin?

Billy86

harney wrote: »

I'd imagine that the GAA see soccer and rugby as potential threats to their sports, numbers wise, less so MMA.

If anything, having young GAA players practising MMA from a young age would help with their fitness, their discipline, their reactions, their strength... and definitely either future mixed games against the Aussie rules lads. :pac:

ShooterSF

I don't see the GAA having a big issue with it. They've okayed gridiron before. I think the no "foreign" sports has always really meant soccer/rugby. As for the fans, any GAA fan I know praises their sports for the manliness and physical nature (As a big soccer fan I hear it a lot). Would seem strange then to have issue for the same reasons with MMA.

Mellor

slicus ricus wrote: »

The main problem with doing a PPV event in Ireland is the curfew we have here in legislation here. In order for it to be worth UFC's while putting McGregor on a card outside of the US, the main event would have to be on for US time (i.e. 5-6am here) in order to achieve any sort of worthwhile PPV buy-rate. In Ireland you are not allowed hold a public event that late.

There's no curfew in legislation that I'm aware of.
The issue with croke park and aviva is a planning condition specific to both sites not a law.
It could be bypassed easily by the council. If they wanted to license the event.

rob316

I was there Saturday in vegas what a battle, huge respect for both fighters. Conor fought smart and just edged it in the end but it really could of went the other way. Diaz just kept coming after looking in huge trouble in the early rounds, the lad has a concrete chin.

A very enjoyable main card on the whole. A lot of empty seats but still a good irish turnout. Top level ticket only cost me 200 last Tuesday at the arena so clearly they had trouble shifting them.
Great arena the tmobile excellent views from all around and you feel very close to it. I've been in the mgm for boxing in the cheap seats and felt very far away before.

Where to next for conor? I can't see him defending that 145 belt and he's right it's bad for the division stripping him of it and giving it to a guy he knocked out in 10 seconds.

Another run for the lightweight title maybe?

All in all a great night for UFC they got there top guy back on top again.

Mellor

rob316 wrote: »

Where to next for conor? I can't see him defending that 145 belt and he's right it's bad for the division stripping him of it and giving it to a guy he knocked out in 10 seconds.

Another run at dos anjos for the lightweight title maybe?

Dos Anjos isn't the LW champion any more.

Conor has been given two choices.

• Return to 145 and defend his title,
• Or vacate his title for an immediate shot at 155 .

rob316

Mellor wrote: »

Dos Anjos isn't the LW champion any more.

Conor has been given two choices.

• Return to 145 and defend his title,
• Or vacate his title for an immediate shot at 155 .

Eh alvarez I meant, I'm frazzled barely slept since the fight.

Conor does need to be careful though, Dana showed last time who's boss.

Outlaw Pete

rob316 wrote: »

Conor does need to be careful though, Dana showed last time who's boss.

He was the boss then. He's not now. Now he's just an employee.

I do think he should fight Aldo next though. Then focus on 155.

Axwell

Mellor wrote: »

There's no curfew in legislation that I'm aware of.
The issue with croke park and aviva is a planning condition specific to both sites not a law.
It could be bypassed easily by the council. If they wanted to license the event.

Dublin City Council has an 11pm curfew on events in Croke Park or at least when Peter McKenna spoke about it before he said that DCC would be imposing one at that time.

John_D80

Axwell wrote: »

Dublin City Council has an 11pm curfew on events in Croke Park

Yeah but that's not law though is it, is the point he was making. The key word here being legislation. The council can pretty much change/amend/remove that curfew as it suits them.

There may be other issues relating to noise levels etc. but the curfew itself is a lot more flexible than people might believe.

Mellor

Axwell wrote: »

Dublin City Council has an 11pm curfew on events in Croke Park or at least when Peter McKenna spoke about it before he said that DCC would be imposing one at that time.

As I said, its a planning condition, on both stadiums, not legislation.

dashoonage

The only thing for it lads is to hold the fight on a boat in international waters.

finglashoop

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

He was the boss then. He's not now. Now he's just an employee.

I do think he should fight Aldo next though. Then focus on 155.

Dana has the exsct same position he had before. Why people think he has less.power is weird. After yje sale he coild have walked.away but he didnt so id say he stayed and kept.the power hr previously had.

John_D80

dashoonage wrote: »

The only thing for it lads is to hold the fight on a boat in international waters.

Monkey knife fighting on the fight pass card ??

slicus ricus

Mellor wrote: »

As I said, its a planning condition, on both stadiums, not legislation.

Fair enough, it's not legislation, I got that bit wrong. There are still serious hurdles to jump to get an event approved in a stadium in Dublin that goes on from 11pm/midnight until 6am. May not be a law preventing it but the planning conditions will be pretty difficult to overcome in term of curfew.

As I said previously, it is just not worth UFCs while from a financial perspective to do a McGregor fight in a stadium in Ireland unless the time corresponds with US time. The gate would not even come close to making up for the lost PPV revenue.

John_D80

finglashoop wrote: »

Dana has the exsct same position he had before.

Not even close. It's only a matter of time before new owners realise he is more of a Hindrance than a help.

He ain't calling the shots no more.

His days are numbered.

hatrickpatrick

Assuming (fingers crossed) that NYC is a realistic possibility for Conor, it would be a VERY tall order for him to cut 25 lbs down to featherweight in just under three months. Physically possible, absolutely - physically possible without losing a sh!t ton of muscle mass rather than fat, I'm not so sure. Cutting is exceedingly tricky - it's a lot more difficult than bulking if you want to get it right - and the #1 piece of advice in bodybuilding circles is that if you don't do it slowly, you throw away your muscle gains.

That would leave Conor in a potentially weakened position for the fight compared with an opponent - presumably Aldo - who has been at or around the featherweight requirement for the entire time. I can't see a scenario in which Aldo isn't in better shape for the fight, given that he won't have a massive cut to do and will therefore presumably have more muscle mass and more trained muscle mass than McGregor.

Now, we've seen that McGregor isn't averse to taking risks (no matter which side of the fence you're on, agreeing to take on Diaz and bulk up at such short notice in March took serious balls) but I can't help feeling that he has more on the line this time. He lost to Diaz in March and beat him this weekend - whether he wins or loses his next fight could define whether the March loss was a fluke, or the August win was a fluke, in the eyes of the press and the non-rabid fanbase. In other words - I can't help feeling that he risks serious damage to his brand if he loses the next fight, more so than perhaps in any other fight of his career. In that context - does he take the risk? Is fighting in NYC important enough to him that he'll be willing to gamble on all of that? Or is it important enough to him that he'd be willing to vacate his featherweight title and have a go at winning a debut title in a different weight class - but potentially leave NYC with no title at all?

finglashoop

John_D80 wrote: »

Not even close. It's only a matter of time before new owners realise he is more of a Hindrance than a help.

He ain't calling the shots no more.

His days are numbered.

Do you really think he stuck around with a reduced role?

Ush1

Mellor wrote: »

There's no curfew in legislation that I'm aware of.
The issue with croke park and aviva is a planning condition specific to both sites not a law.
It could be bypassed easily by the council. If they wanted to license the event.

Ha, tell that to Garth Brooks.