Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

John_D80

finglashoop wrote: »

This. Why people.cant accept this is strange. Mcgregor fans skew everyrhing around how mcgregor acts.

Its amazing. Mcgregor at a disadvantage fighting a bigger man, no size mentioned whne he drops to 145 and has the size advantage.

Rogan isnt cheering for him and he.is the worst commentator.

Dana doesn't let mcG do what he wants and keeps him in line and he is close to being sacked, has no power blah blah blah

. Who do people think decided to strap a rocket to mcG in the first place? Who decides to promote and big up fighters? Would Dana have given anyone else a title shot after beating siver?

Its pathetic lads.

Hmmm. Does everything come back to McGregor for you? :rolleyes:

Let it go man. Just let it go.

callaway92

Tazzimus wrote: »

Two things that'd make me very skeptical of this.

1. It's TMZ
2. It's Dana

A third fight will happen, but not right away. In a year or so maybe.

TMZ (contrary to popular belief) are a very good source.

martyos121

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I hope you're right, but they've indicated so far that they're going to pretty much let Dana call the shots, at least for the time being.

That'll certainly lead to a rift between Dana, Conor and the owners then. They can let Dana call all the shots he wants but when it comes to Conor and Ronda, they need to handle that themselves. They're in a more powerful position than everyone bar the owners themselves. I'd say they'll let Dana walk before they fall foul of either of them.

Depp

callaway92 wrote: »

TMZ (contrary to popular belief) are a very good source.

for mma they definitely seem to be, theyve just ruined there credibility with all the celeb bullsh!t they put out

Lukker-

Depp wrote: »

for mma they definitely seem to be, theyve just ruined there credibility with all the celeb bullsh!t they put out

That's what they are built on though.

They seem to have a direct line to Dana most of the time. There is only 1 quote from Dana though and it implies that he is just ruling out an immediate rematch.

Mostly lurk here but don't post.
Probably one of the most tense fights I have watched.
I'm not a big MMA fan but follow McGregor all the way.
Fair ****s to him for taking a huge risk and overcoming this.
Rising to the challenge considering how much stamina Diaz has.
Respect to both fighters IMO for providing a thrilling match up.
For McGregor it could elevate him up to another level I didn't think he was capable off. I actually thought he was going to loose before the fight but looks like he took all the lessons he learned and the hard work and graft paid off.
The ball is in his court and it's only fair he drops back down in weight class. From reading some of the posts in the last few days especially pro Diaz there hasn't been much consideration of how natural weight and unnatural weight gain has an impact on each individual fighter.
Diaz is just naturally the bigger guy. His bone structure etc.
Think it's some achievement to up to that weight class and beat him the second time around in the manner in which McGregor done.
Anyway just my two cents.

Tazzimus

callaway92 wrote: »

TMZ (contrary to popular belief) are a very good source.

I've seen one or two clips from them asking gimpy questions harassing people, they seem like the American version of the Irish Mirror or the likes. Well to me anyway.

I'd generally put more faith in the likes of Ariel and that.

John_D80

callaway92 wrote: »

TMZ (contrary to popular belief) are a very good source.

I always thought TMZ was kinda like E! and those sorta channels.

Boom_Bap

Fair play to McGregor, I had my doubts going into this one but he was able to take the shots, not get taken down except for the final minute and chip away throughout the 5 rounds.
I think what won the fight for him was his defence on attempted take downs and that he knocked Diaz down 3 times. I wasn't expecting Diaz to be on the canvas apart from when he got into some BJJ after a take down....but that never happened.

As for what next, I can see the reasons for not wanting to fight Aldo. I don't think the weight is an issue, it's the whole thing about whether Aldo shows up this time. I'd say he would though given he has his own demons he needs to resolve given that McGregor ruined his movie release.
I also don't think McGregor should go immediately for a title at 155, maybe get Dos Anjos out of the way first. I just hope he doesn't move away from MMA for paydays, and hopefully he's not ruled out with this ankle injury for a susstained period.

Kudos to Diaz though, chap is a warrior.

callaway92

Tazzimus wrote: »

I've seen one or two clips from them asking gimpy questions harassing people, they seem like the American version of the Irish Mirror or the likes. Well to me anyway.

I'd generally put more faith in the likes of Ariel and that.

John_D80 wrote: »

I always thought TMZ was kinda like E! and those sorta channels.

That's the impression they give off for all entertainment stuff but they have good connections (especially in MMA/Pro Wrestling)

froog

i don't have much interest in the aldo rematch to be honest. i can't see aldo taking many (or any!) of those lefts without dropping. if it ain't in the first 13 seconds, it will be sometime in the first or second round. also that fight took what a year to finally happen with the delays and pullouts? conor owes that guy nothing. much prefer to see conor getting busy in the LW division, his proper weight.

LaGlisse

Irish times reporting potential 6 month medical suspension for zmchregor but not seeing anything about it here or reddit?

maximoose

Posted a few times here in the various threads anyway

Minimum 6 months unless cleared by doctor, can be re-evaluated in October

froog

these 3, 4 and 6 month suspensions are pretty standard. they're often reduced later.

cletus

Standard suspensions, can be cut down considerably by visiting a doctor and getting the all clear.

Regarding whether McGregor owes Aldo anything, that is simply not a factor in the fight, regardless of what Conor says. There are currently two belts at 145, and management have said they want to unify, either by fighting or vacating.

I know a lot of people have said that McGregor can't make 45 anymore, but he's never missed that weight, so I think he could make it, but doesn't want to do that cut anymore, and Aldo is a handy scapegoat

Boom_Bap

cletus wrote: »

Standard suspensions, can be cut down considerably by visiting a doctor and getting the all clear.

Regarding whether McGregor owes Aldo anything, that is simply not a factor in the fight, regardless of what Conor says. There are currently two belts at 145, and management have said they want to unify, either by fighting or vacating.

I know a lot of people have said that McGregor can't make 45 anymore, but he's never missed that weight, so I think he could make it, but doesn't want to do that cut anymore, and Aldo is a handy scapegoat

That's an excellent point, he shouldn't get a say, he needs to fight the #1 contender which is Aldo.

Saipanne

Boom_Bap wrote: »

That's an excellent point, he shouldn't get a say, he needs to fight the #1 contender which is Aldo.

But you do understand why he has a say, right?

finglashoop

Swashbuckler wrote: »

At 145 McG is a featherweight with a cut against other FW's with a cut. When he fought Diaz he was a LW fighting a WW. The two aren't the same.

Rogan is incredibly biased always, regardless of whether McG is fighting. He is incredibly frustrating at times and more often than not you're better off turning off the commentary. I also felt he was biased towards Diaz and I'm no McG nuthugger.

I think time will tell what the story is with Dana and his power but to me he does seem a bit lost at sea these days.

McGregor's run to the title shot was no different to anyone else's run to the title around that time e.g. lamas or mendes. Also couple that with the fact Aldo had pretty much beaten everyone in the division anyway and Conor was the obvious choice.

You can't complain about the biased McGregor fans when you're completely blinkered in the opposite direction.

Im not blinkered. Im pointing out easy hypocaracies that people happily ignore with regard to mcgregor. No surprise someone jumped in to dispute them all

As for rogan. He is there to explain the action to people who may know little about what is going on. He knows a lot of fighters so he will always have bias if he is commentating on someone he knows fight.

finglashoop

John_D80 wrote: »

Hmmm. Does everything come back to McGregor for you? :rolleyes:

Let it go man. Just let it go.

This is a mcgregor thread. So im not sure what point your making. If any.

Swashbuckler

finglashoop wrote:

Im not blinkered. Im pointing out easy hypocaracies that people happily ignore with regard to mcgregor. No surprise someone jumped in to dispute them all

I didn't jump on anything. It's a discussion thread..I disputed some points I didn't agree with. Simple as that.

finglashoop wrote:

As for rogan. He is there to explain the action to people who may know little about what is going on. He knows a lot of fighters so he will always have bias if he is commentating on someone he knows fight.

So we essentially agree on that.

John_D80

finglashoop wrote: »

This is a mcgregor thread. So im not sure what point your making. If any.

Chill out mate. Was just trying to have the bantz with you. No offence intended.

cletus

Saipanne wrote: »

Boom_Bap wrote: »

That's an excellent point, he shouldn't get a say, he needs to fight the #1 contender which is Aldo.

But you do understand why he has a say, right?

I understand why he thinks he has a say, I understand why UFC allowed him a say in going after RDA and Diaz rematch, but I think that UFC 200 has shown us that if the UFC don't want Conor to have a say, he won't. They may allow him to fight Alverez and try to hold two belts, but it won't be Conors decision, even if its his wish

JJayoo

So if McG hops into the lightweight division where would you rank him? What would the top 10look.like?

ASOT

cletus wrote: »

I understand why he thinks he has a say, I understand why UFC allowed him a say in going after RDA and Diaz rematch, but I think that UFC 200 has shown us that if the UFC don't want Conor to have a say, he won't. They may allow him to fight Alverez and try to hold two belts, but it won't be Conors decision, even if its his wish

That was a completely different UFC to what we have now after the take over, realistically they cant **** around with there cash cow after spending 4 billion on the company, what Conor wants he will get imo.

martyos121

JJayoo wrote: »

So if McG hops into the lightweight division where would you rank him? What would the top 10look.like?

I'd have him straight in at number 2, below Khabib but above RDA. That's my take on it, be interesting to hear what everyone else thinks his position should be. There can be no argument for him to be below 4th though, since Diaz is at that spot and he's just beaten him.

Easy Rod

martyos121 wrote: »

I'd have him straight in at number 2, below Khabib but above RDA. That's my take on it, be interesting to hear what everyone else thinks his position should be. There can be no argument for him to be below 4th though, since Diaz is at that spot and he's just beaten him.

He's not fought at lightweight in the ufc so I'd rank him nowhere.

Saipanne

Easy Rod wrote: »

He's not fought at lightweight in the ufc so I'd rank him nowhere.

Should he begin at entry level, then? Fight a few journeymen and work his way up the rankings?

hatrickpatrick

This doesn't sound good for New York

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/mma/conor-mcgregor-suspension-ufc-202-nate-diaz-a7204891.html

McGregor will have to serve a minimum two-month fight suspension until 20 October, with no contact training permitted until 5 October.

The injury may rule McGregor out of an appearance at UFC 205 in New York, scheduled to be held on 12 November.

Would he be willing to compete with only a month and a half of training?

JJayoo

Easy Rod wrote: »

He's not fought at lightweight in the ufc so I'd rank him nowhere.

His fight with Diaz was essentially a light weight fight.

And how Diaz was ranked at number 4 is a joke, he isn't even close to the top five IMO

Swashbuckler

JJayoo wrote:

His fight with Diaz was essentially a light weight fight.

Not sure I agree with that..Diaz was way heavier than a typical LW would be in the octagon at around 190lbs. And Conor was on the lighter side at around 167lbs. That's if you're willing to believe the numbers quoted by both.