Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

cloudatlas

Saipanne wrote: »

You've no idea what really goes on in their minds. They are human and have fears, just like you.

I know that of course, I assume athletes have doubts, lots of private doubts that they don't voice out loud and I'm sure that it's a sport psychology technique to do what Conor McGregor does and say the positive over the top things that he says and have that dialogue playing constantly. Does he have doubts, probably yes. Will you hear him voicing them, no.

Davei141

cloudatlas wrote: »

I have gone off Nate a bit after he admitted on Conan that he goes in thinking, I might get knocked out but let's see how it goes. No athlete should ever go into competition with that attitude.

cloudatlas wrote: »

Yes but sports people don't say those kinds of things generally, you don't hear players, athletes say that they may lose.

cloudatlas wrote: »

I know that of course, I assume athletes have doubts, lots of private doubts that they don't voice out loud and I'm sure that it's a sport psychology technique to do what Conor McGregor does and say the positive over the top things that he says and have that dialogue playing constantly. Does he have doubts, probably yes. Will you hear him voicing them, no.

Translated: I wish Nate lied to me like most sportspeople. Pretty weird viewpoint to have.

cloudatlas

Davei141 wrote: »

Translated: I wish Nate lied to me like most sportspeople. Pretty weird viewpoint to have.

Sure yep.

newbbieb

Think in Nates case its by design that he is saying this kinda stuff he done the same for the first fight and it worked well.

He has purposely decided not to get dragged into the pissing contest of trash talk where Conor eventually drags every opponent,and they start biting back and bragging about how easy they will beat Conor etc and it creates a pressure for them that they find hard to handle when fight night comes.

That is basically blunted as a tool in Conors arsenal if you take the kind of road Nate is taking and don't make vows to knock Conor out in the first round etc.

Mellor

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Mellor

Not bad for a white belt...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHEdwiomEDM

JustTheOne

Mellor wrote: »

Not bad for a white belt...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHEdwiomEDM

Against nate though.

bur

Do guys ever get awkward boners training BJJ?

Asking for a friend.

Subcomandante Marcos

bur wrote: »

Do guys ever get awkward boners training BJJ?

Asking for a friend.

Bjj thread is that-a-way

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But no. No, never. I guess if you had a squashing fetish or were into being choked maybe?

that's a good question, if you're sparring a girl. Imagine rolling with Tate!!:D

Just looking at Mendes today on line, so obvious he was eating the gear!

just saying!! it's one thing to be just off the couch, it's another to have just eaten said couch!

Depp

rusty cole wrote: »

that's a good question, if you're sparring a girl. Imagine rolling with Tate!!:D

Just looking at Mendes today on line, so obvious he was eating the gear!

just saying!! it's one thing to be just off the couch, it's another to have just eaten said couch!

also dont know how much anyones seen of aul lance but itd be interesting to see how hed do with usada testing!

also does anyone know if fighters are tested during their suspension?

Tazzimus

rusty cole wrote: »

that's a good question, if you're sparring a girl. Imagine rolling with Tate!!:D

Just looking at Mendes today on line, so obvious he was eating the gear!

just saying!! it's one thing to be just off the couch, it's another to have just eaten said couch!

I thought it might be an issue rolling with someone with lady parts, especially in positions like north south etc.

However, from experience, no. You're too busy trying to stop an armbar/guillotine/RNC/High mount etc to be thinking of the lady parts near or squished into your face. Women also tend to be more vicious than men I've found so that helps keep the Woody Harrelson at bay.

DrPhilG

Tazzimus wrote: »

I thought it might be an issue rolling with someone with lady parts, especially in positions like north south etc.

However, from experience, no. You're too busy trying to stop an armbar/guillotine/RNC/High mount etc to be thinking of the lady parts near or squished into your face. Women also tend to be more vicious than men I've found so that helps keep the Woody Harrelson at bay.

I do find myself very wary of where I put my hands. Scrambling past guard into mount or side often leaves your hands (and face) in danger of landing somewhere inappropriate.

Everybody needs a bosom for a pillow and all that, but not in the gym!

ASOT

Fairly sure the Mendes pic is ancient

Tigger

ASOT wrote: »

Fairly sure the Mendes pic is ancient

its from 2014
http://mma-in-asia.com/region/japan/ulka-sasaki-confirmed-for-deep-on-may-25th-shares-thoughts-on-training-at-alphamale-and-his-ufc-dream/

I like chad to be fair but his thick dense muscle with that separation and all that is just way to suspect. He has HGH and Testo written all over him. Begs the question, are all the Alpha malers jacked?? they seem to share a far superior dense muscularity that you dont see as obvious on others in their respective divisions. joseph benevides, Uriah faber and TJ all look unreal.

I'm not saying for sure but it's suspect alright. When the diaz brothers can point to a fighter and say they're on it, wouldn't it be fair to say his team mates knew? in the same way we all know when a lad in our own gyms is suddenly huge. And if so, wouldn't it be up to faber to say, hey if you're caught then folks may think we're on it too, unless they are and didnt see one of their own getting caught. worth considering at least no.

Lukker-

rusty cole wrote: »

I like chad to be fair but his thick dense muscle with that separation and all that is just way to suspect. He has HGH and Testo written all over him. Begs the question, are all the Alpha malers jacked?? they seem to share a far superior dense muscularity that you dont see as obvious on others in their respective divisions. joseph benevides, Uriah faber and TJ all look unreal.

I'm not saying for sure but it's suspect alright. When the diaz brothers can point to a fighter and say they're on it, wouldn't it be fair to say his team mates knew? in the same way we all know when a lad in our own gyms is suddenly huge. And if so, wouldn't it be up to faber to say, hey if you're caught then folks may think we're on it too, unless they are and didnt see one of their own getting caught. worth considering at least no.

Hard to know, but I doubt it. TAM is a very wrestling orientated gym and those guys you mentioned came from wrestling. Fast twitch muscle heavy and a focus on explosiveness.

Tyron Woodley has the same body type, fighting at a higher weight class obviously and he hasn't popped (yet) and also comes from a wrestling background. They've been doing very specific conditioning their whole lives. I've seen a picture of Faber when he was 14 and he's still ripped to shreds.

Mellor

rusty cole wrote: »

I like chad to be fair but his thick dense muscle with that separation and all that is just way to suspect. He has HGH and Testo written all over him. Begs the question, are all the Alpha malers jacked?? they seem to share a far superior dense muscularity that you dont see as obvious on others in their respective divisions. joseph benevides, Uriah faber and TJ all look unreal.

He's about 11 1/2 stone soaking wet. I wouldn't have thought that was really into the realm of unattainable naturally tbh. There's no such thing as dense muscle. The muscular appearance is down to low bf%. Lots of bigger guys on the street would be carrying more muscle, they just cover it up with fat. They are also taller, I'm not ignoring that aspect either.

There's a website out there that speculates on which bodybuilders are natural based on the max natural muscle you can build statistically. No reason you couldn't apply it to fighters.

Of course, just because something could be natural doesn't mean it is.

When the diaz brothers can point to a fighter and say they're on it, wouldn't it be fair to say his team mates knew? in the same way we all know when a lad in our own gyms is suddenly huge.

Two of Diaz's close teammates have popped. Before their last fight, Conor said to Nate "You must of known, right"
...or words to that effect.

Mellor

Mellor wrote: »

He's about 11 1/2 stone soaking wet. I wouldn't have thought that was really into the realm of unattainable naturally tbh. There's no such thing as dense muscle. The muscular appearance is down to low bf%. Lots of bigger guys on the street would be carrying more muscle, they just cover it up with fat. They are also taller, I'm not ignoring that aspect either.

There's a website out there that speculates on which bodybuilders are natural based on the max natural muscle you can build statistically. No reason you couldn't apply it to fighters.

Of course, just because something could be natural doesn't mean it is.



Two of Diaz's close teammates have popped. Before their last fight, Conor said to Nate "You must of known, right"
...or words to that effect.

yeah I know gilbert melenedez and jake shields popped positive. Bodyfat or not, he looks juiced which is why he popped. tI watched a good BBC doc last week and couldn't believe the lengths and breaths all athletes are going to, just to win.

apparently 9 out of the last 20 tour de france winners have been stripped. fifty something UK rugby union players are banned at the moment for PEDs, Tim Montgomery said he knows for a fact in any one line up, only 1 sprinter, May be clean, "may"...

I think it's safe to say in a sport like MMA, there's a big drug culture (only my opinion now before anyone jumps down me throat). we're seeing it been revealed now with all the favourites popping and I'd say there's much more to come.

Mellor

Mendes didn't pop for steroids though.

It's probably skirting a bit too close to speculation.

ASOT

Eddie begging for the fight, pretty comical coming from a lad who has only one legit win in the UFC.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/8/9/12409856/morning-report-eddie-alvarez-says-conor-mcgregor-cant-fight-for-sh-t#388607415

Lukker-

ASOT wrote: »

Eddie begging for the fight, pretty comical coming from a lad who has only one legit win in the UFC.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/8/9/12409856/morning-report-eddie-alvarez-says-conor-mcgregor-cant-fight-for-sh-t#388607415

Ducking Khabib big time.

This is what happens when you give Bisping the choice of his next opponent. Woodley and Alvarez first thing to do is call out irrelevant/money fights.

newbbieb

Lukker- wrote: »

Ducking Khabib big time.

This is what happens when you give Bisping the choice of his next opponent. Woodley and Alvarez first thing to do is call out irrelevant/money fights.

Personally i don't think they gave Bisping his choice,i think his choice just so happened to coincide with their choice,the Bisping/Hendo fight is a no brainer,anything else would be pure madness.

But with Bisping,Alvarez and now Woodley all trying to do a Conor and call the shots and pick their fights Dana is gonna have to set down a marker and show them who is boss.

None of them are the draw Conor is or have the power he has and the UFC have to make an example of one of them and put a stop to fighters trying to make their own fights and i get the feeling it could be Alvarez getting fed to Khabib.

Kev_2012

I'd love to see Alvarez shut up by Khabib (who I really don't like as a fighter as he bores the life out of me), and then Conor to somehow avoid his dry humping antics and knock him out. Would shut a lot of people up.

Conor is looking in much better shape than last time. Looks like he done a lot of work on his legs too. I can see him chopping Nate's leg to bits and taking it handy with punches and gradually wearing him down. I'm with Kavanagh on this one, 4th round TKO/KO. Hopefully he has worked a good bit at stuffing TD attempts.

ASOT

Kev_2012 wrote: »

I'd love to see Alvarez shut up by Khabib (who I really don't like as a fighter as he bores the life out of me), and then Conor to somehow avoid his dry humping antics and knock him out. Would shut a lot of people up.

Conor is looking in much better shape than last time. Looks like he done a lot of work on his legs too. I can see him chopping Nate's leg to bits and taking it handy with punches and gradually wearing him down. I'm with Kavanagh on this one, 4th round TKO/KO. Hopefully he has worked a good bit at stuffing TD attempts.

Khabib does more than dry hump, watch his fight with Aber Trujillo he landed about 17 suplexs on him and twenty something take downs in total, there's a massive different between that and humping like what Shields or Fitch used to do.

califano

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Conor is looking in much better shape than last time. Looks like he done a lot of work on his legs too. I can see him chopping Nate's leg to bits and taking it handy with punches and gradually wearing him down. I'm with Kavanagh on this one, 4th round TKO/KO. Hopefully he has worked a good bit at stuffing TD attempts.

No he wont!. He doesn't like kicking much imo. The kick is just not his go to in his arsenal and when he kicks its nearly always to the body unless its an oblique token kick to the knee to keep them standing off and sometimes the odd kick just to mix it up. But i cant remember any fight even pre ufc when he chopped anybody's legs to bits.

JJayoo

califano wrote: »

No he wont!. He doesn't like kicking much imo. The kick is just not his go to in his arsenal and when he kicks its nearly always to the body unless its an oblique token kick to the knee to keep them standing off and sometimes the odd kick just to mix it up. But i cant remember any fight even pre ufc when he chopped anybody's legs to bits.

People are mentioning leg kicks because they have been very effective against Diaz in the past. It's not a case of Conor being known as a fighter who throws kicks. Diaz plants his front foot and doesn't check kicks

Lukker-

califano wrote: »

No he wont!. He doesn't like kicking much imo. The kick is just not his go to in his arsenal and when he kicks its nearly always to the body unless its an oblique token kick to the knee to keep them standing off and sometimes the odd kick just to mix it up. But i cant remember any fight even pre ufc when he chopped anybody's legs to bits.

Kicking is a vital part of his game. He has never chopped someones leg to bits, but he has done damage. Watch the Siver or Holloway fights, he uses a low lying side kick aimed right above the knee as he was moving in that done lots of damage.He used it a couple of times against Nate I think, along with the oblique kick. Uses it to set up bicycle kicks after too.

Spinning back kicks are also vital to cut off the cage if an opponent is trying to stay away from his left hand.

He also uses a roundhouse kick to the head a good bit after he draws his opponents guard with his straight left. His front snap kick probably won him the fight vs Mendes.

I think people forget his kicking game because he got lured into a boxing match vs Nate

weldoninhio

With the height and reach difference he'll be well within Nates reach if he's trying not to set up kicks. I can see McGregor knocked out in this one.

dashoonage

I'm sure Nate has thought, "here lads...ya reckon this lad might use a few kicks this time?"