Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 ***Updated Mod Note Post 1***

robopaddy2 wrote: »

I don t see a problem with it myself. They re all amateurs so more power to him if he can get a few pound back out of it. My only big fear with Austin is that he will get sent off in a big game. We know he has a short fuse and weve seen in club games it doesn t take much to trigger it. He was lucky not to be sent off for the u21s, another ref would have easily shown a red. He s a marked man now and I can see it coming in a big senior match. I d hate to see him end up like Diarmud Connolly of Dublin get the reputation of a flawed genius. He just gets constantly tormented by opposing players in every game, and inevitably he caves from time to time.

Are you suggesting that the aristocrats of the game would ever resort to such underhand methods?







Oh God, he's screwed.

Fred C Dobbs wrote: »

The best hurler (young or otherwise) in the country is going to be box office material. Think Aussie thrives on the attention ; there's no self pity in his utterances ... he has a winners mentality. I'd say he's relishing the challenge next Saturday.

I heard you the first time Fred

Psychedelic wrote: »

Didn't see anyone mention this pick off the ground which led to Kilkenny's first point. "Nicely picked up" said Marty - yeah that's usually a free!

Was a low hop, wasn't on the ground.

Psychedelic wrote: »

Low hop me bollocks, the ball bounced a tiny amount once and then as it was touching the grass again he picked it up.

He had his fingers underneath it before he closed his hand around it.

But sure, blame the ref away.

carter10 wrote: »

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7Tji_JxrzGqd2tiZENZQThtNWc

Not sure I follow. So, Richie power moaned about the ref, so that makes you moaning about the ref ok?

carter10 wrote: »

I didn't moan about the ref, didn't even post about the match. I however replied to your arrogant rant/condescending lecture about blaming the ref by pointing out that your lot are capable of it as well, sorry if that rattles your flat cap, pipe and pioneer pin

If you actually look back at my posts before and after the match you'll find I was perfectly gracious towards the Waterford team and supporters, not sure why I deserve this response exactly. As for the last little dig, I haven't a ****ing clue what you're talking about, or where you got it from. But ad hominems are always a good sign that you're dealing with someone who is not worth responding to. So good luck to you chief.

Dick phelan wrote: »

Feck fearing KK now, ye we know they are very good but there not the unreal team of a few years ago, they still have unreal hurlers in the starting 15 but a lot of them are on the older side of things, if anyone should have more energy the next day it should be our lads, Fennelly's legs look gone he won't manage 70 mins on Saturday, KK have a pretty weak bench, KK are still favorites but we should have beaten them on Sunday and we can beat them on Saturday, It's a joke that this KK team is going for 3 in a row, they are not one of the great teams in hurling history if you break it down man for man, Bit more composure the next day and if we can match the intensity of Sunday we've every chance.

seriously they are going for a three in a row and you claim that, that's a joke ,we are going for a one in a row in the last 57 years,how would you rate us then ?

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

He had his fingers underneath it before he closed his hand around it.

The particular movement you describe does not automatically mean the ball was not touching the ground at the time.

JJs Left Hand wrote: »

As JJ said on Monday, where a team ranks in history is irrelevant. All that matters is that you're the best team in any given year

That's nonsense at a certain leve or extremely disingenuous anyway. I have no doubt that privately he would talk about the Kilkenny team of 2006-09 as a unit and be quite aware of the historical significance of their achievements. Sounds a good line though which always carries well.

Getting nervous now TBH (better to be nervous than to be heartbroken if they stole the game)

The first 15/20 mins will be tense and I expect Kilkenny to tear at us.

You can argue and say a win on Saturday will be bigger than any Munster title wins there

We have suffered at the hands of Kilkenny long enough

mountgomery burns wrote: »

1)An all ireland medal is equal to any other all ireland medal. He's 100% right from a players point of view.

2)Sure I'm sure some of us would argue that our team in the mid noughties was better than some other teams that have won all ireland medals but the bottom line is they don't have the medals and the others do.

1) I don't think anyone has suggested otherwise. But that was not the point of the other poster who referenced the view of Delaney that "where a team ranks in history doesn't matter". The way people talk about teams and in particular suggests that this does indeed matter to many people.

2) People will always have opinions on teams. That's kinda the whole point of this. Life would be more boring if memory of all other years was sacrificed at the outset of the following year. That's why his comments (and in fairness I have no idea of the context so I am taking them at face value as they are presented here) are disingenuous.

Also the fact that other teams have All-Ireland medals and the Waterford team of mid-noughties don't does not negate all arguments. It's a statistical fact but no more than that. in the same way people do not regard all teams with All Ireland medals as exactly equal even though they all have the same medals. In terms of an All Ireland medal for the given year they are equal but people cannot be stopped having opinions which go beyond that.

I would say that if someone claimed to JJ Delaney that the Clare team of 2013 was the equal of Kilkenny since 2006 because they won the All Ireland in a given year which is all that Kilkenny ever managed to do (and that there is no connection, continuum or greater significance is doing it again and again) he would find that hard to accept.

Now, it is possible he was answering a very specific question when he gave that answer but I am dealing with it in the context in which I was presented here.

Christ alive I didn't think my comment would be analysed so much. If I did I would've qualified it by saying that JJ said to the players in the current squad their position in history doesn't matter only that they're good enough to win that years AI. Obviously when players are finished and look back they'll rate different teams better or worse but in the here and now it's about this years All Ireland.