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Nice - Bastille day **mod warning post 1**

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  • #932
    tomofson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    timmyntc wrote: »
    The Islamic golden age seems like revisionist history tbh. I don't recall hearing much about how Islam were a thriving society and the rest of the world were savages back years ago..

    The 'Islamic Golden Age' was a period when an islamic caliphate was growing and growing, and as it grew it 'acquired' many great scientists and thinkers.
    One thing they did do well, to their credit, was make mathematics accessible to the masses. By taking the Roman developed systems and choosing base-10 and using arabic numerals it allowed more than just the 'elite scholars and wise mathematicians' to practice basic maths. Previously maths were intentionally obtuse to make it somewhat of an elitist practice.

    The ancient medicine textbooks Which where some of the most accurate for the time? If it wasn't for their mathematicians setting off a precedent back then do you think you would have laptops and mobile phones today???


  • #933
    Bobthefireman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭Bobthefireman


    military are in airport.


  • #934
    selastich2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭selastich2


    smash wrote: »
    source?
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/689852/nice-airport-evacuated-bastille-day-terror-attack


    suspect bag it seems


  • #935
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Bobthefireman wrote: »
    military are in airport.
    again. Source?


  • #936
    Minderbinder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭Minderbinder


    tomofson wrote: »
    If it wasn't for their mathematicians setting off a precedent back then do you think you would have laptops and mobile phones today???

    Yes.


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  • #937
    tomofson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    Minderbinder wrote: »
    Yes.

    Well most intelligent people would know that without a spark a precedent cannot be set, they lit the spark and set off the precedent and if it wasn't for that you would not be typing your hate filled tripe about them today.


  • #938
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Officials are searching for the families of several children in hospital following the deadly truck attack.

    A hospital treating children injured win the Bastille Day attack in Nice says it has been unable to trace the parents of a number of them.

    Heartbreaking.


  • #939
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,951 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    wakka12 wrote: »
    No really its not because nobody in the middle east sees them as freedom fighters

    Well some must do because all we hear in these threads are people claiming that muslim communities are harbouring them and giving g them support.


  • #940
    Stealthfins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭Stealthfins


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote:
    He seems himself as fighting for a just cause. If we don't appreciate that, and continue to see terrorists as purely evil, we will never understand them, and our authorities will never defeat them (or more accurately, defeat their mentality).


    Maybe split a few hydrogen atoms over their headquarters....


  • #941
    Bobthefireman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭Bobthefireman


    lbc.co.uk radio station is the source. Closed to aircraft it appears.


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  • #942
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,951 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Stealthfins wrote: »
    Maybe split a few hydrogen atoms over their headquarters....

    Oh look, another one :rolleyes:


  • #943
    timmyntc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    tomofson wrote: »
    Well most intelligent people would know that without a spark a precedent cannot be set, they lit the spark and set off the precedent and if it wasn't for that you would not be typing your hate filled tripe about them today.

    Great standard of post here buddy.
    They didn't discover maths, they merely made it more accessible. Something that would have happened eventually, they just happened to have been the ones to do it first.
    A lot of their discoveries were made by other cultures which they consumed during the expansion of the various islamic caliphates.
    But I digress, this is all just hate filled tripe anyways?


  • #944
    gosplan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    The thinly-veilled call to violence here is comical.

    People want to drop an atom bomb (admittedly not everyone) because of this threat but various extreme measures being suggested.

    Now imagine you were a 40 year old Afghani. What lengths would you be suggesting?

    Last points and I'm out for the day. Good luck all.

    Parts of the Middle East are so ****ed right now and have been for so long that any rule that offers...
    A: relative safety
    B: an end to western interference
    ...will get significant uptake.

    But only parts. Anywhere remotely prosperous and safe wouldn't go near this stuff. You have to look at what comes next for the region.

    As regards France, disenfranchised young men are a danger everywhere. In the modern age with social media spreading appealing messages and a lack of border controls, this presents a massive new and unprecedented problem. Immediate security is one aspect of tackling the issue but there's a need also for long term strategy to tackle the reasons this is happening in France to young men with bleak futures, in the care system, in trouble with the law.

    Nurturing 'the other' with regard to seggregating and interning Muslims will clearly be massively counter-productive long term.

    Islam like all religions is massively open to interpretation. People find whatever sense they are looking for in it. Be thankful that we have lives where we view extremism as an idiotic ideology. The world makes sense to us the way it is. It's fair and we have safety and opportunity.

    This is why bar a couple of nutjobs, we know Ireland will never go back to the troubles. Who wants to live a violent life when we can socialise, fall in love, go to college, get a job ... all knowing that we and out loved ones are safe.


  • #945
    timmyntc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    From their point of view, it is.

    A terrorist doesn't rub his hands with glee and say to his family Oh darlings, how I do so love being a terrorist

    He seems himself as fighting for a just cause. If we don't appreciate that, and continue to see terrorists as purely evil, we will never understand them, and our authorities will never defeat them (or more accurately, defeat their mentality).

    yes but these particular terrorists act in the name of a global islamic caliphate: i.e. submit to islam or die

    How do you attempt to understand that?


  • #946
    Minderbinder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭Minderbinder


    tomofson wrote: »
    Well most intelligent people would know that without a spark a precedent cannot be set, they lit the spark and set off the precedent and if it wasn't for that you would not be typing your hate filled tripe about them today.

    I just answered your question. That was the first comment I made in the thread. I think if the guy who invented the wheel hadn't done so someone else might have figured that one out by now too.


  • #947
    FalconGirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭FalconGirl


    smash wrote: »
    Heartbreaking.

    That really brings it home. When you're a child and unwell , all you want is your parents to hold you and comfort you.

    Heartbreaking indeed. Nobody deserves such trauma. What have we become as a species. :-(


  • #948
    jacksie66
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭jacksie66


    This post has been deleted.


  • #949
    Hurtbuthealing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭Hurtbuthealing


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    I think you will find there is a problem with Islam. Go ask France.

    No problem at all with Islam
    Islam has not killed anyone
    Extremists be extremists


  • #950
    tomofson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    timmyntc wrote: »
    Great standard of post here buddy.
    They didn't discover maths, they merely made it more accessible. Something that would have happened eventually, they just happened to have been the ones to do it first.
    A lot of their discoveries were made by other cultures which they consumed during the expansion of the various islamic caliphates.
    But I digress, this is all just hate filled tripe anyways?

    How do you know it would of happened eventually??? The fact is they did not find maths, they did master it though and for thousands of years before they came along nobody else ever mastered it what makes you so sure people would of mastered it so suddenly if they where not here???

    Its called step on stone invention one invention leads to another... Not to hard to grasp. Yes it is hate filled tripe your bias is blocking out realism in your mind.


  • #951
    testaccount123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    Muslims invented the iPad now, ffs


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  • #952
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • #953
    tomofson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    testaccount123 wrote: »
    Muslims invented the iPad now, ffs

    They would have contributed to it, yes


  • #954
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,951 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    testaccount123 wrote: »
    Muslims invented the iPad now, ffs

    Well Duh!!!!!

    Islam PAD

    :D


  • #955
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,951 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Patww79 wrote: »
    What's wrong with that? They're already bombing where they believe the leadership to be, why not do it right?

    OK

    Same questions to you

    Where do we nuke?

    How many innocent people should die to prevent innocent people from dying?


  • #956
    testaccount123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    gosplan wrote: »
    As regards France, disenfranchised young men are a danger everywhere. In the modern age with social media spreading appealing messages and a lack of border controls, this presents a massive new and unprecedented problem. Immediate security is one aspect of tackling the issue but there's a need also for long term strategy to tackle the reasons this is happening in France to young men with bleak futures, in the care system, in trouble with the law.
    I guess the solution is to give French Muslims more welfare so. Perhaps we can give them each a gold plated car, then they'll suddenly integrate.


  • #957
    weisses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭weisses


    Considering the logic used by some here I am suggesting a ban on Lorries or at least get rid of any foreign lorries


  • #958
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • #959
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,951 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Patww79 wrote: »
    It's a war. The aim is to win them.

    Has war been declared?

    Any chance of answering the actual questions I asked?


  • #960
    testaccount123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Its not a war, its our fault the followers of Islam mow down children in the street, we dont give them enough money. These people invented the iPad ffs!


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  • #961
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Hurtbuthealing wrote: »
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    I think you will find there is a problem with Islam. Go ask France.

    No problem at all with Islam
    Islam has not killed anyone
    Extremists be extremists
    LOL. Ok mate. You believe that.


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