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BoJack Horseman · 15-07-2016 01:26AM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Plenty of info out there if you look.

Apparently upwards of 100k converts in the last couple of years in Iraqi Kurdistan alone.

Christy42 · 15-07-2016 01:26AM

It also has the ten commandments from the old testament. Moses is still a prophet in Islam. Thou shalt not kill is still in there. Merely that the ISIS wackjobs dexcited not to care about that part. Many Muslims do care about it. Religious books have enough contradictory guidance that you can take what you want from any of them.

BorneTobyWilde · 15-07-2016 01:26AM

Geraldo
Obama needs to declare war on ISIS .
An official declaration of war . You attack one NATO country ,you attacked them all.
Why is the world so afraid of fighting ISIS?
We poke them with a long stick and run away..

gosplan · 15-07-2016 01:27AM

The bible promoted mass murder, slavery and so on.

Like I said, it's not hard to understand where the radicalisation but comes from. You'd have to look into it though rather than going with the most simplistic sensationalist rationale.

BoJack Horseman · 15-07-2016 01:27AM

my friend wrote: »

The EU is finished

Putins power increases tonight

Well, the mass importation scheme is questioned.... but it isn't being halted.

People will defend the policies of their presidents Tusk & Junker to the hilt.

BlaasForRafa · 15-07-2016 01:27AM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Actually lot of Kurds are abandoning Islam altogether and going back to Zoroastrianism. Basically the Kurds adopted Islam in the first place because they didn't want to be murdered and raped into extinction.

And in any case the Kurds mainly follow a different branch of Islam to that propogated by extremists much of it through Saudi funding.

RobertKK · 15-07-2016 01:28AM

gosplan wrote: »

In a world without borders the days where the west could fcuk up a region and not worry about it are over.

I've no idea how to deal with radical Islam. I think it's going to take a lot of time.

But people here need to cop on and realise that this is not about Islam.

If the world had treated South America in the same manner for the last 100 years, it's guaranteed we'd all be talking about radical Catholicism.

It's not even that hard to understand.

Islam has no one main leader which is a problem for the religion. Instead you have nations like Saudi Arabia who support an extreme version of Islam.

You would not get radical Catholicism given the structure of the church. Then most western nations and the Holy See have close relations for many centuries. The Holy See also have very good relations with nations like Iran which may seem odd.
As a political entity, the Holy See is a success for promoting peace, and did warn both Bush and Blair about invading Iraq.

ChunkyLover54 · 15-07-2016 01:29AM

my friend wrote: »

Putins power increases tonight

No way, he's way too spineless

StringerBell · 15-07-2016 01:29AM

super_furry wrote: »

Ever read the Bible? Funnily enough it says the same things - it also says that slavery is okay, that it's alright to murder anyone that has an affair and that anyone who dishonours their parents should be killed.

Not to mention those who work on the Sabbath, President Bartlett had a great monologue regarding Biblical passages.

gandalf · 15-07-2016 01:29AM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

When are you heading out Gandalf.

Raqqa will be very hot, so... you know... factor 50 yourself good.
And don't bother with bringing razors!

Hey I'm not the one going all armchair warrior here Bojack, rjpf1980 will be needing the factor 50. Maybe you could join him eh!

gosplan · 15-07-2016 01:30AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Geraldo
Obama needs to declare war on ISIS .
An official declaration of war . You attack one NATO country ,you attacked them all.
Why is the world so afraid of fighting ISIS?
We poke them with a long stick and run away..

Maybe they're finally copping on to the results of nurturing a state of almost perpetual war in the Middle East. ISIS must be defeated but more Western soldiers in the Middle East will ensure the problem perpetuates.

BorneTobyWilde · 15-07-2016 01:30AM

We would not tolerate Russia dropping a bomb on Nice and killing 100's, but ISIS can do it over and over and over and over and we tolerate. We don't want to upset them.
World is too PC

Atlantic Dawn · 15-07-2016 01:31AM

my friend wrote: »

The EU is finished

Putins power increases tonight

If France left road trade from Portugal and Spain would be fecked.

StringerBell · 15-07-2016 01:31AM

Too Tired wrote: »

Yeah it's just a tiny, tiny, tiny minority. 99.9% of Muslims believe in equality and gay rights.

Ever been to America? Russia? Any of the heavily Christian countries in Africa, South America etc

These places would certainly have more the 0.1% of their population who don't believe in equality or gay rights.

BlaasForRafa · 15-07-2016 01:32AM

gosplan wrote: »

The bible promoted mass murder, slavery and so on.

Christianity had a reformation, unlike Islam.

Not that I'm in favour of christianity (or any other religion) but the numbers of jesus-inspired terrorist attacks is pretty tiny compared to those who claim to be inspired by allah.

gosplan · 15-07-2016 01:32AM

Too Tired wrote: »

And yet Christians aren't massacring non-Christians across France.

Again, it's not hard to understand.

If there had never been any occupation or oil in the Middle East, none of this would be happening.

Is that bit easy enough to get?

BoJack Horseman · 15-07-2016 01:32AM

gandalf wrote: »

Maybe you could join him eh!

I'll go, but only if you do.

We'll be on opposing sides mind.

Blue Whale · 15-07-2016 01:32AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

We would not tolerate Russia dropping a bomb on Nice and killing 100's, but ISIS can do it over and over and over and over and we tolerate. We don't want to upset them.
World is too PC

How are we toleratimg it? Isis are getting bombed all the time in Syria and Iraq

Atlantic Dawn · 15-07-2016 01:33AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

We would not tolerate Russia dropping a bomb on Nice and killing 100's, but ISIS can do it over and over and over and over and we tolerate. We don't want to upset them.
World is too PC

Lets drop 10 nukes on ISIS tonight, oh wait there is no ISIS country :rolleyes:

Shield · 15-07-2016 01:33AM

"If you're gonna defend your religion by saying Islam is a religion of peace, and the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam, you're being intellectually dishonest, and that kind of denial of obvious reality is irresponsible and dangerous." - Sam Harris at 14:38 of the interview below with Dave Rubin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqxlzHJrU0

Manutd_4life wrote: »

For anyone who thinks ISIS members are Muslims :

ISIS bombed many countries including Muslim countries during the holy month of Ramadan. If you still think ISIS are Muslims you need to delete your life.

gandalf · 15-07-2016 01:34AM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

I'll go, but only if you do.

We'll be on opposing sides mind.

Hmmm I never took you for a supporter of religious fanatics Bojack, ah well all those Putinistas have finally worn you down eh

RobertKK · 15-07-2016 01:34AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

We would not tolerate Russia dropping a bomb on Nice and killing 100's, but ISIS can do it over and over and over and over and we tolerate. We don't want to upset them.
World is too PC

We don't tolerate it, on Wednesday, the nations fighting ISIS killed the top ISIS guy for war, and over the last number of months have reduced the area they control by 12%.

StringerBell · 15-07-2016 01:35AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

We would not tolerate Russia dropping a bomb on Nice and killing 100's, but ISIS can do it over and over and over and over and we tolerate. We don't want to upset them.
World is too PC

ISIS didn't do it over and over and over

Also, are you aware that ISIS are being fought, by people, like, real combat and being pushed back and defeated, little by little?

Do you know this is happening or do you think nothing is being done to stop them, by people a little too busy actually fighting then repeating ****e they read on the internet?

Strumms · 15-07-2016 01:35AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

We would not tolerate Russia dropping a bomb on Nice and killing 100's, but ISIS can do it over and over and over and over and we tolerate. We don't want to upset them.
World is too PC

What a stupid ****in comment. Who is tolerating it ? There is mass condemnation and absorbance at this attack. Just because people are not calling to nuke all muslims.. you need to have a word with yourself... seriously.

BorneTobyWilde · 15-07-2016 01:35AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Lets drop 10 nukes on ISIS tonight, oh wait there is no ISIS country :rolleyes:

They have strongholds . We drop a few bombs on their houses.
We need to flatten a city with an atomic bomb. No need to pinpoint.
They kill everyone, we need not worry about innocent people. If you're there you're not innocent.

punk_one82 · 15-07-2016 01:36AM

Too Tired wrote: »

Yeah it's just a tiny, tiny, tiny minority. 99.9% of Muslims believe in equality and gay rights.

That's not what you said.

"Muslims are just following their holy book which tells them to rape and enslave non-believers." 99.9% of Muslims aren't raping and enslaving non-believers.

Christy42 · 15-07-2016 01:36AM

Too Tired wrote: »

And yet Christians aren't massacring non-Christians across France.

Surely this would indicate that following a religious book with these things written in them isn't the issue? I mean we have millions across Europe who profess faith in the old testament through the various Abrahamic in religions. The vast majority ignore the weird bits and get on with life so the book isn't the issue. The issue is the messed up people who think that driving a truck into a crowd of people isn't horrific.

StringerBell · 15-07-2016 01:36AM

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

Christianity had a reformation, unlike Islam.

Not that I'm in favour of christianity (or any other religion) but the numbers of jesus-inspired terrorist attacks is pretty tiny compared to those who claim to be inspired by allah.

Hundreds of years difference in terms of the age of the religion.

gosplan · 15-07-2016 01:36AM

RobertKK wrote: »

Islam has no one main leader which is a problem for the religion. Instead you have nations like Saudi Arabia who support an extreme version of Islam.

You would not get radical Catholicism given the structure of the church. Then most western nations and the Holy See have close relations for many centuries. The Holy See also have very good relations with nations like Iran which may seem odd.
As a political entity, the Holy See is a success for promoting peace, and did warn both Bush and Blair about invading Iraq.

I'd argue it's little to do with religion are much more to do with safety and prosperity.

I mean imagine your outlook on the world if you lived in Iraq or Afghanistan for the last 3 decades.

mansize · 15-07-2016 01:37AM

Maybe they shouldn't have left Iraq in such a mess after the last phoney war.

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