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The fastest regular car?

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    #122
    H3llR4iser
    Registered Users Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    166man wrote: »
    The F30 is a disappointment indeed.

    The Alfa ha proven itself to be a proper drivers car throughout numerous tests. Will be interesting to see if the quality is there on the inside.

    What will be very important to them selling is competitive finance packages. Over 75% of new cars in Ireland sold last year were on PCP. They have to hit that market.

    They're selling the 150hp diesel for 270 Euro / month on a lease deal in Italy (I believe it's roughly similar to what is called "PCP" here). Seems good to me in general terms, I have absolutely no idea compared to the competition - never availed of such scheme.

    To the people who keep pandering about a BMW 330d or hot hatches (yep, a CUPRA is one) being "average" or "common" cars, maybe based on tax or fuel consumption...what to say, I'm happy for you if you have one, one more seriously performing car on the road.

    The reality is however different - when I was looking for a 159 years ago, I wanted either a 2.2 JTS or a 1750 TBi. I ended up getting the 1.9 JTS because the former two are virtually non-existent in Ireland (and I didn't fancy paying a serious amount of VRT) and because the one I found needed some TLC, so I paid less than 50% of its market value at the time and avoided dodgy "'this been serviced yesterday, I swear!" statements :D.
    However, whenever I spoke with someone about looking for the 2.2, they spread their eyes in horror and went "Jaysus, what do you need that for" and thought that such engine would be more suitable for Monza than the streets of Ireland :P

    Maybe the best way to express the concept would be "fastest car you regularly see driven by a 60-years-old-housewife on the grocery run"? Someboy would argue they saw a GILF in a Ferrari 360 and say it's therefore "average" :D


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    #123
    GustavoFring
    Registered Users Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭GustavoFring


    The figures for the 2.2d Giulia are really impressive. Even the basic 148 looks like it would satisfy most people. Been a long time since you could say that about a basic model, they're doing something right if they stack up in reality.


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    #124
    Ryath
    Registered Users Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭Ryath


    millington wrote: »
    The Cupra & ST are hot hatches though
    Sorry meant more bang for buck they offer. Leon Fr is a spec level though you can get it with a 1.4 tsi with 125bhp
    GustavoFring wrote: »
    Bang for buck the 184 is probably one of the better cars of its size in that regard. 184 is 30k though. Ibiza Cupra offers a lot of bang for your buck (probably the best value out there given the spec and performance) but is the badge too sporty for this game?

    This thread needs rules, would be more fun then:D

    We paid €27250 with 250 worth of extras! :D


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    #125
    Jesus.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    millington wrote: »
    Irish people don't except €750 as regular tax on a post-08 car:rolleyes:

    And why should they?


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    #126
    Brian Scan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,669 ✭✭✭Brian Scan


    Jesus. wrote: »
    And why should they?

    Helpful.


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    #127
    Jesus.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    Brian Scan wrote: »
    Helpful.

    Anything to add?


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    #128
    GustavoFring
    Registered Users Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭GustavoFring


    Ryath wrote: »
    We 1 paid €27250 with 250 worth of extras! :D

    I paid similar tbh too:D


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    #129
    millington
    Registered Users Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭millington


    Jesus. wrote: »
    And why should they?

    Who said they should? For some reason it's acceptable to pay 700 on a 15year old Golf or Avensis but you'd have to be maaaaad to pay it on a post-08 car, even if it's something like a 535d.


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    #130
    Brian Scan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,669 ✭✭✭Brian Scan


    Jesus. wrote: »
    Anything to add?

    No, just commenting that I thought your post was helpful.

    Thanks


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    #131
    IrishZeus
    Registered Users Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭IrishZeus


    I pay €1320/year in tax for the Insignia. Well worth it for the extra power :D


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    #132
    bmwguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭bmwguy


    IrishZeus wrote: »
    I pay €1320/year in tax for the Insignia. Well worth it for the extra power :D

    Not being smart but I hope you love the car and are prepared to keep it forever. It's definitely a niche car with a small market.

    Sounds like a nice machine though


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    #133
    IrishZeus
    Registered Users Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭IrishZeus


    bmwguy wrote: »
    Not being smart but I hope you love the car and are prepared to keep it forever. It's definitely a niche car with a small market.

    Sounds like a nice machine though


    No plans on changing anytime soon. Has every possible extra you can think of inside and out I personally think that it is one of the best options money can buy in the "regular" car market biggrin.png


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    #134
    Megahead
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    Yes but it's an Opel:)


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    #135
    Jesus.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    millington wrote: »
    Who said they should? For some reason it's acceptable to pay 700 on a 15year old Golf or Avensis but you'd have to be maaaaad to pay it on a post-08 car, even if it's something like a 535d.

    Fair point


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    #136
    vintagevrs
    Registered Users Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    HandsomeDan wrote: »
    Tbh the f30 is such a disappointment, the new alfa should do well.
    166man wrote: »
    The F30 is a disappointment indeed.

    What's wrong with the f30 out of interest?


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    #137
    dzwx
    Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭dzwx


    fastest car? has to be the company car


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    #138
    IrishZeus
    Registered Users Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭IrishZeus


    Megahead wrote: »
    Yes but it's an Opel:)

    I'm sure you have a point in there somewhere, but its so clverely disguised that I just can't seem to find it....





    *Pervious car was an Astra OPC. Nothing wrong with Opels when you buy the correct ones ;)


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    #139
    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,945 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    dzwx wrote: »
    fastest car? has to be the company car

    Rentals are faster.


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    #140
    Jesus.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    Zeus is that the V6 you have?


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    #141
    IrishZeus
    Registered Users Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭IrishZeus


    Jesus. wrote: »
    Zeus is that the V6 you have?

    No, its a straight-4 engine in mine, the 220BHP model.

    The OPC model is the V6 model - 325BHP I believe they are. (4x4 also)

    The Astra OPC was a very fun car to drive when I had it. Terrible torque steer but other than that, 240BHP in a car that light made for some very interesting times :)


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    #142
    Megahead
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    IrishZeus wrote: »
    I'm sure you have a point in there somewhere, but its so clverely disguised that I just can't seem to find it....





    *Pervious car was an Astra OPC. Nothing wrong with Opels when you buy the correct ones ;)
    Just jesting there zues, nothing wrong with opels (in the past obviously yes) and I really do like the look of the insignia, especially the quicker versions. I take it it's pre 08 if the tax is that high?


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    #143
    IrishZeus
    Registered Users Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭IrishZeus


    Megahead wrote: »
    Just jesting there zues, nothing wrong with opels (in the past obviously yes) and I really do like the look of the insignia, especially the quicker versions. I take it it's pre 08 if the tax is that high?


    I know but I couldn't let you off easy!

    Its an 08, pre-July. Picked it up 2 years ago with 72,000km on the clock, currently has 105,000km and going strong. I think its the first time I've ever had one car for more than 2 years - just gave me the proper blend of space, comfort and power. I will be sad to part with it when the day comes but I will never drop below the 220/230bhp level again, so hopefully I will trade upwards :D


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    #144
    JamesFitz
    Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭JamesFitz


    Can I just hijack this thread for a second and ask what the fastest cheap second-hand car is?

    By cheap I mean costing no more than 5000, and having reasonable tax/insurance.


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    #145
    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,945 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    JamesFitz wrote: »
    Can I just hijack this thread for a second and ask what the fastest cheap second-hand car is?

    By cheap I mean costing no more than 5000, and having reasonable tax/insurance.

    The thread can't even agree on the definition for the fastest regular car, getting agreement on a €5k 2nd hand will be impossible.

    What I can insure reasonably could cost you a fortune and vice versa.


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    #146
    JamesFitz
    Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭JamesFitz


    Haha, I get you.

    I'm only a young lad, so anything around 1500 is expected for insurance....


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    #147
    IrishZeus
    Registered Users Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭IrishZeus


    JamesFitz wrote: »
    Can I just hijack this thread for a second and ask what the fastest cheap second-hand car is?

    By cheap I mean costing no more than 5000, and having reasonable tax/insurance.

    Not to keep harping about the same car but an Astra OPC is insured as a "standard" 2.0l Astra, or at least it was when I had it. Can pick one up for about 5k I would think so there's an option for you.


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    #148
    JamesFitz
    Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭JamesFitz


    IrishZeus wrote: »
    JamesFitz wrote: »
    Can I just hijack this thread for a second and ask what the fastest cheap second-hand car is?

    By cheap I mean costing no more than 5000, and having reasonable tax/insurance.

    Not to keep harping about the same car but an Astra OPC is insured as a "standard" 2.0l Astra, or at least it was when I had it. Can pick one up for about 5k I would think so there's an option for you.
    A lot of those are coming in around the 6000-10000 range, just out of reach for myself


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    #149
    UnknownSpecies
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    If I ever had to get a small engined car that's cheap to run but still packs a punch, it'd be the 1.4 TSI Golf GT. Costs just about €5000, tax is €385 for the year and I was getting insurance quotes south of €500 on it (25 M 4y NCB). Coming in at 170bhp, I really don't see anything else around that's like it in terms of power, price and running costs.

    Example: https://www.donedeal.co.uk/cars-for-sale/vw-golf-gt-1-4-170bhp/12422954


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    #150
    JamesFitz
    Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭JamesFitz


    UnknownSpecies wrote: »
    If I ever had to get a small engined car that's cheap to run but still packs a punch, it'd be the 1.4 TSI Golf GT. Costs just about 5000, tax is 385 for the year and I was getting insurance quotes south of 500 on it (25 M 4y NCB). Coming in at 170bhp, I really don't see anything else around that's like it in terms of power, price and running costs.

    Example: https://www.donedeal.co.uk/cars-for-sale/vw-golf-gt-1-4-170bhp/12422954
    Nice, be doing well if I got myself one of those now.


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    #151
    Jen Pigs Fly
    Registered Users Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭Jen Pigs Fly


    I'm very happy with my 1.8 diesel 2012 lancer, 150bhp is a big difference from my 1.2 fiesta! And you can buy them new for 21000k. Costs 200 on tax too! It's a mivec though so does it count? Going to tune it to 175bhp! I got mine for 9000 euro with fiesta as trade in


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