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South Africa V Ireland, Third Test Build-up Thread

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    #122
    pickarooney
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Again its bizarre the Healy is not even in the debate anymore and its completely correct. He was the best prop in NH in 2013. Props are supposed to hit the heights of their career with age.

    He and Corbisiero are in the same boat. Was Healy flogged or just unlucky with injury?
    I can't help feeling McGrath won't have a long career the way he's going.


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    #123
    former total
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Again its bizarre the Healy is not even in the debate anymore and its completely correct. He was the best prop in NH in 2013. Props are supposed to hit the heights of their career with age.

    ??? Did you mean to post this in a different thread?

    Healy is injured.


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    #124
    [Deleted User]
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    former total wrote: »
    ??? Did you mean to post this in a different thread?

    Healy is injured.

    Didn't realise that. I thought he'd fallen completely out of favour.


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    #125
    bilston
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    That backline looks OK in theory but its essentially the fourth place backline in the pro 12.

    That's not really relevant given Ulster's problems have been in the pack not the backs.


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    #126
    bilston
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    bilston wrote: »
    Based on what FT has said


    Payne
    Trimble
    Marshall
    Olding
    Earls
    Jackson
    Murray
    McGrath
    Best
    Ross
    Toner
    Henderson
    Stander
    Murphy
    Heaslip

    I'd swap the centres around personally. Marshall did very well at 12 in the first test and Olding could probably use the extra space and time.

    I'd love to see Olding at 13, but I don't see it happening this weekend.


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    #127
    Adbrowne
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    bilston wrote: »
    I'd love to see Olding at 13, but I don't see it happening this weekend.

    An Olding - Marshall midfield gives us tons of options outside PJ, especially if Payne plays at 15.


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    #128
    Jump_In_Jack
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    PJ, Olding and Marshall have got good kicking ability, perhaps better than any centre combination I can remember for Ireland,
    Hopefully whichever plays at 12 or 13, we shall see some creativity in the midfield, and they should have a great understanding with Payne in terms of timing runs.
    Very similar to the Sexton, D'Arcy, O'Driscoll, Kearney axis, in terms of understanding and communicating.


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    #129
    andymx11
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    Payne sat out training this morning. ****edyF*ckFu*k.


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    #130
    Adbrowne
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    andymx11 wrote: »
    Payne sat out training this morning. ****edyF*ckFu*k.

    I think he is out of the third test, just reading between the lines. Would be disappointed if TOH doesnt get the start


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    #131
    andymx11
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    Adbrowne wrote: »
    I think he is out of the third test, just reading between the lines. Would be disappointed if TOH doesnt get the start

    Yea I would assume so too. Yea hopefully TOH gets his chance I'd be very surprised if he didn't.


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    #132
    Mr Tickle
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    Adbrowne wrote: »
    I think he is out of the third test, just reading between the lines. Would be disappointed if TOH doesnt get the start

    Well the only way he doesn't is if Earls is played somewhere he shouldn't be. Olding Marshal TOH to 12,13 and 15 is definitely the simplest solution.

    It's unfortunate that Healy won't see any game time but Gilroy hasn't done a whole pile wrong to justify swapping them.


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    #133
    Dog Botherer
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    Whitely and Combrinck start for the Boks. Kriel and Kitshoff are uncapped on the bench.


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    #134
    Dog Botherer
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    #135
    Mr Tickle
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    has anyone heard a time for the team announcement?


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    #136
    b.gud
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    Mr Tickle wrote: »
    has anyone heard a time for the team announcement?

    Around Lunch time would be my guess


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    #137
    kuang1
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    Dog Botherer wrote: »
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    Surprised to see Le Roux there.
    He came good towards the end of the game last week but only after we had reached wet-cardboard status.
    I think he's a major weak link for them.


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    #138
    Mr Tickle
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    b.gud wrote: »
    Around Lunch time would be my guess

    i get to spend an hour refreshing the twitter page so.


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    #139
    Dog Botherer
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    Reddan will be retiring from rugby after this weekend. For all the griping about him, he was a consummate professional and a deserving international. Nice to see a player able to go out on their own terms.


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    #140
    andymx11
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    Dog Botherer wrote: »
    Reddan will be retiring from rugby after this weekend. For all the griping about him, he was a consummate professional and a deserving international. Nice to see a player able to go out on their own terms.

    Will this help this chances to sneak onto the bench?


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    #141
    thomond2006
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    andymx11 wrote: »
    Will this help this chances to sneak onto the bench?

    I hope not tbh.


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    #142
    andymx11
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    I hope not tbh.

    Me too, however even before this announcement I had a feeling he would make the bench.


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    #143
    Dog Botherer
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    Payne out, O'Halloran in, Marshall and Olding in the centres, Reddan and Healy (!!!) on the bench.


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    #144
    ClanofLams
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    Payne out TOH starts. Healy benches.


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    #145
    its_phil
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    Matt 'F***ING' Healy


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    #146
    Dog Botherer
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    #147
    [Deleted User]
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    TOH is a relative unknown to me. I think we're really gonna miss Payne.


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    #148
    thomond2006
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    I can't understand Ross over Furlong. Marmion should have been stuck with. Ruddock is unlucky not to start. Otherwise fine.


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    #149
    Adbrowne
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    Strong side, like the bench, especially in the forwards. Serious impact there.


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    #150
    Kiwi_knock
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    If Reddan and Healy get on, will that mean everyone who was brought on tour will have got game time. That is fairly impressive.


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    #151
    Mr Tickle
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    TOH is a relative unknown to me. I think we're really gonna miss Payne.

    I'd have faith in him. Maybe I'd rather he had a slightly more experienced midfield in front of him for his first test but he should do fine.

    It's a nice surprise to see Healy there too. Hope he gets a few minutes.


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