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Charts ( Up to T120 ) Winter 2024/2025 ** READ MOD NOTE IN FIRST POST**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,975 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    Will the Brits and the Yanks ever catch up with the rest of the world?

    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,626 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    The latest high-res Arpege and Harmonie models show some significant maximum gusts from Storm Eowyn for the western seaboard of Ireland.

    Some of the mean wind speed charts are at the extreme end of the scale. Hoping to see some downgrades in the wind potential as we get closer to the event.

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    In the meantime, Met Eireann has Red and Orange alerts in place. See met.ie for the latest guidance.

    www.weatheire.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    A video I put together on the storm taking shape.

    The formative stages of Storm Eowyn are underway north of Bermuda. The system will develop from a shortwave that will undergo rapid cyclogenesis (fast and intensive development) in the mid-Atlantic tonight and into Thursday as it tracks northeast toward Ireland. The distinctive comma shape associated with storms will start to appear in satellite imagery later tomorrow evening.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Latest model output depicting track and timings for Storm Eowyn this Friday morning:

    - The strongest winds will be wrapped around the south of the storm centre.

    - Models have trended toward centering the storm offshore except for the GFS and ICON models.

    - The ICON model is slightly delayed in bringing the storm in compared to others, but it is keen to move on quickly once it reaches the north coast of Ireland. The GFS moves on quickly too at the same point.

    - The Arpege model, which is currently showing the lowest hPa levels at the system’s core, takes the centre of the storm further out to sea. We need to watch this trend to see if other models follow suit which would be good news in terms of reducing the wind speeds on Friday.

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    Status Red Warnings are in place for 22 counties with Orange Alerts in place for Northern Ireland and Waterford, Wicklow, Carlow and Kilkenny. Visit met.ie and metoffice.gov.uk for the latest information on projected windspeeds and measures that can be taken to protect life and property in the interim

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Storm Eowyn is undergoing the early stages of development off the coast of St. John’s in Newfoundland.

    It is currently appearing as little other than a wave on satellite imagery. The rapid and intensive development phase of this storm, which will take place overnight tonight and into Thursday, is known as Rapid Cyclogenesis. The storm will deepen by 50 millibars in the 24 hours (well in excess of minimum 23 millibar threshold for ‘weather bomb’ status) up to midnight tomorrow night at which point it will be showing up on satellite as a highly developed cyclonic cloud spiral.

    The rapid development is driven by the Jetstream - a fast, narrow current of air flowing from west to east - which has been energised by the deep pool of cold air over the United States that brought a foot of snow right down to the Gulf of Mexico yesterday.

    See met.ie and metoffice.gov.uk to view the most up to date weather information and warnings.

    video

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    If Storm Eowyn wasn't enough, there is the prospect of another complicated, 'fidget spinner' looking system later on Sunday into Monday and Tuesday.

    Let's get Friday out of the way first.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    What is Cyclogensis and where is #StormÉowyn getting its energy from?

    It's nothing got to do with Genesis on a Bike 🎶🚲.

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    It's all about a process called Rapid Cyclogensis or RaCy. RaCy in name and nature.

    The below satellite image shows Storm Éowyn beginning its life as a shortwave southeast of Nova Scotia tonight. The rapid and intensive development phase of this storm is underway and will intensify overnight and during Thursday as the storm moves northeast toward the southwest coast of Ireland.

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    The storm will deepen by 50 millibars in the 24 hours (well in excess of minimum 24 millibar threshold for ‘weather bomb’ status) up to tomorrow night at which point it will be showing up on satellite as a highly developed cyclonic cloud spiral.

    The rapid development is driven by the Jetstream - a fast, narrow current of air flowing from west to east - which itself has been energised by the deep pool of cold air over the United States that brought a foot of snow right down to the Gulf of Mexico yesterday.

    This time tomorrow night, the distinctive comma shape associated with storms will likely appear in satellite imagery. Sample below from Storm Barra.

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    By then, the opening salvo of Storm Éowyn will be felt first in in southwest Munster as winds begin to pick up around 8pm with stronger gusts appearing by 10pm. The max gusts will impact the southern half of the country from around 2am to 7am before extending north as the storm tracks off or close to the west coast toward Donegal Bay. The worst of the winds will have moved on from northern counties by mid-afternoon Friday.

    See http://met.ie for more details, including weather warnings and safety guidance.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭skinnyfries


    I’m flying out to JFK this morning (avoiding the storm) return flight on Monday evening 🙈. I presume if it operates, it will a super speedy flight home?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    The latest high resolution models depict little change in the forecast maximum gusts associated with Storm Éowyn. This is a dangerous storm that is likely to cause significant disruption.

    There is broad agreement now that the system will approach quickly from the southwest of Ireland shortly after midnight and track north-northeast towards Donegal by daybreak tomorrow.

    The strongest of the winds will sweep through from midnight to lunchtime tomorrow but occasional damaging gusts will continue in the far north up to later tomorrow evening with a slow abatement in wind speeds beginning on or before midday in the southwest.

    We are looking at wind speeds of in excess of 130km/h being recorded across broad swathes of the island. More extreme gusts of 160 km/h+ are likely along the western seaboard, on exposed higher ground locations and in locations prone to valley winds when the wind direction is due westerly or WSW. Inland southeastern locations will experience less extreme gusts generally.

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    This is an exceptionally dangerous storm and is NOT your standard Irish winter storm. Heed all advice received from the authorities before, during and after the event as the impact of the storm will be felt in many areas for a considerable time after Storm Eowyn has moved on.

    One piece of advice regarding loose, large garden items would be to secure and store them close to the eastern gables of buildings as the strongest winds will be W or WSW.

    Please consult met.ie and metoffice.gov.uk for information on weather alerts and additional guidance.

    www.weatheire.com



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭Wine Goddess


    I'm puzzled about the time on that chart it's 1600/1700 so 4-5pm but Met eireann says the red warning expires by 12 or 1pm but those charts indicate red levels of wind at 4 and 5pm.

    Am I missing something? Could you explain please? Many thanks @WolfeEire



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭coillsaille


    It's the highest that gusts reached from 12am up to 4pm. So those winds occurred at some point during that time period.

    *Edit: Shouldn't use past tense - will occur during that time period.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Latest track of Storm Eowyn based on 6 primary weather models.

    Summary:
    - This is a significant, high impact storm, particularly for Atlantic coastal counties.- The wind field will be large, hence the Red Alert now in place for all of Ireland. The strongest sustained winds and peak gusts can be expected away from inland southeastern areas.
    - Gusts of 160km/h+ along the west coast. Gusts in excess of 130 km/h elsewhere away from inland SE. Sustained winds of 90 km/h+ along the Atlantic coastline of the SW, W and N.
    - The Arome and Arpege models have backed off a little this morning with the strongest winds staying offshore.
    - The GFS, ICON, ECM and Harmonie models produce the strongest and more impactful onshore winds.

    Please note that a Red Wind Warning is in place for all 32 counties of Ireland. Consult met.ie and metoffice.gov.uk for the latest warning details and additional guidance.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,985 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    It feels a bit like 1839 at this point …

    mace head 72 kn g 98 kn is over-under for 0400 to 0600 peak winds, if station survives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,829 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Another wind warning for Sunday

    Yellow - Wind Warning for Antrim, Armagh, Down, Fermanagh, Tyrone, Derry



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Very concerning output from the Arpege model should it verify. 200km/h wind gusts kssing the west coast of Kerry, Clare and Galway, including Galway City.
    Hoping for a downgrade.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Mean wind speeds (10m) in the latest Arpege output are reaching Cat 1 Hurricane levels in parts of the west, including Galway City with the WSW wind sweeping through Galway Bay.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,829 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Is there anyway to estimate what the mean speeds for 1 minute would be as they do for hurricanes . It would be higher than the 10m average but by how much I don’t know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    not aware of such data being available freely, Donegal

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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    For the east coast, and for my back yard - north Wicklow/Greystones - looks like Sunday afternoon/evening could be just as windy/stormy as Storm Éowyn.

    By the way, not now expecting a colossal amount from Storm Éowyn here (nothing like Storm Darragh anyawy).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 896 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    Gusts of 85 knots (157kmh) in the TAF forecasts for Knock and Shannon tomorrow morning. Pretty exceptional especially for Knock, which is far inland.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Yeah, I think it's going to be the inland wind speeds/gusts that are going to be exceptional with this, north of a line of Shannon to (say) Drogheda.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Robwindstorm


    C'mon MT, your not that old.

    Good point about some stations surviving. The great storm of 1987 lost full recordings in southern England.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,985 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Tippecanoe and Tyler too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Robwindstorm


    as you have guessed, i had to Google it 🤔.

    That presidency ended in death and disaster around 1840, I hope not like Eowyn. Maybe you are hiding a cryptic message about trump 😁.

    Any update or predictions from your vast knowledge at this stage regarding the storm?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    My final summary of the track of Storm Eowyn based on 6 primary higher resolution weather models.

    Summary:

    • This is a significant, high impact storm, particularly for Atlantic coastal counties.
    • All models now track the storm closer to land (the Arpege and ICON bring the storm centre over land at some point).
    • The wind field will be large, hence the Red Alert now in place for all of Ireland.
    • Gusts of 160km/h+ in western coastal fringes. Gusts in excess of 130 km/h elsewhere away from inland SE. Sustained winds of 90 km/h+ along the Atlantic coastline of the SW, W and N.
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    Please note that a Red Wind Warning is in place for all 32 counties of Ireland. Consult http://met.ieand http://metoffice.gov.uk for the latest warning details and additional guidance.

    www.weatheire.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I wonder has Knock ever had a gust of 97 mph before? Surely not? That's the kind of gust you only expect to see on coastal fringes. There is going to be some amount of trees down tomorrow further inland if these gusts in excess of 80 mph come off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    M.T.Cranium what are your thoughts on the likelihood of a sting jet? Would that explain some of the extreme gusts depicted by the Arpege model for parts of Galway?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭Rain from the West


    Bloody hell, the latest ECM has another pretty deep system just West of Ireland on Monday lunchtime.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    What the hell… !! Pass me the smelling salts.



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