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FI Charts ( T120+ onwards) Winter 2024/2025 **READ MOD NOTE IN FIRST

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,539 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Unfortunately with the Jet Stream firing up this usually lasts a few weeks and we are more than likely to get at least one storm out of it, we always do. My thoughts are starting to move onto summer 2025 already as I lose interest in chasing cold spells after mid February so another month of chasing cold in FI and the next few weeks don't have much support for proper cold or snow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭esposito


    When Gonzo loses interest in mid February the great cold Siberian express will come!



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Nailed on. Gonzo is our unintended winter weather vane. All I ask is that Gonzo sees snowfall before the winter is out. In fact, everyone on the weather forum should will an easterly for Gonzo's sake.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    I'm not buying it Gonzo.... we all see through your reverse psychology games 🤔😃



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭ClimateObserver


    With the windspeeds being so high from such a deep low (if it were to ever materialise like shown in the chart) the 'shunting' or rather bullet speed the cold air gets to us under such a setup means SSTs would have very little time to moderate the cold above. An exceptionally cold airmass from the heart of Greenland. It would be quite a novelty to get for sure. There was a similar Greenland airmass around the middle of February, thinking somewhere between 1990 and 1994 hit us, intense squally snow and graupel shower bands that dumped hectic amounts in short timeframes. Again around the end of December 1998, 99 or 2000 too - geez, it's hard to remember which year anymore!



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    It might have been the ‘Braer’ storm in Jan 1993 named after a tanker that broke up in Shetland causing a disastrous oil spill?

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    Thankfully these frightening charts are over a week away, I think we can all do without widespread destruction.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    It remains to be seen if high pressure to our east will inhibit Atlantic systems from making a direct impact in Ireland and Britain later next week.

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    One thing is for sure is that forecast deep cold over the eastern half of North America will fire up the Jetstream.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭ClimateObserver




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Oíche Na Gaoithe Móire


    I remember that Monday well. Sleet to snow in the South Midlands. First Monday back after Christmas in secondary, Leaving Cert year. We didn't get enough snow to shut down school. Very disappointing.

    North West, naturally in that setup, did best. We'd a thaw the following day.

    'Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio? A nation turns It's lonely eyes to you.'



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    This afternoon's GFS run is throwing up a right 'Spectacle' for next weekend with dual low pressure systems bringing strong winds and rain to Ireland and Britain.

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    The GEM and UKMO also suggest windy and wet conditions. The general theme of unsettled conditions for the second half of next week continues as a very active Atlantic weather regime takes hold.

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    There are a few GEFS perturbations showing colder air in place ahead of these Atlantic systems. Will be interesting to see if this develops further in future runs.

    Generally, such an outcome is not well supported at present as the below ensembles for Jan 23-24th show below.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    ECM has the storm closer and deeper on this run. Spell of snow for Connacht and Ulster from it that washes away quickly. It continues to deepen as it approaches Ireland getting down to 933mb a few hundred kms offshore. A further slight correction east and it’s a nasty day. You can view it in more detail on wxcharts and ecm comes out earlier there.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,402 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Yourself and Wolfe are gas. Wolfe saying it could be wet and windy and you saying a nudge East and its a nasty day...

    The reality of a nudge East is hurricane force winds across the country, certainly above the threshold of a nasty day.

    Of course a nudge East is not certain it could also nudge West but let's not call it wet and windy, it would be violent



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    I’m sorry that nasty wasn’t hyperbolic enough for you for something that’s modelled for a week away. Perhaps I should have called for a red warning and hacked in to rte to transmit we're all going to die next Friday. I’ll be sure to remember that for next time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭Thunder87


    A more recent example in 2011 as well, we had some snow in Donegal from this one, as well as lots of really intense thundery hail squalls.

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    I remember the December 98 one as well, huge storm left us without power for about 5 days and the storm was immediately followed by a really cold week with snow and ice



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    For fear of being forgotten about, the CFS sends the Jetstream south next weekend, builds the Scandi high and slaps an easterly over us during the following week 🙃

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,402 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Yes good ol JS is on ramp mode calling for red warnings a week out. Just as he did start of January for snow. What a fool he was, yet thousands were stranded across the South Midlands for 4 days and cars were abandoned in Charleville as the nearby hotel came to their rescue!! Sure was only a snow showers.

    Anyway on to AI model, a direct hit bringing breezy conditions to the Southwest

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,402 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    18z gfs just out.

    As is the case with all models this evening a very serious storm adjacent to Ireland!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭Ros4Sam24


    Losing track of the amount of times these storms come at the weekend, it’s unbelievable. Can’t remember the last midweek storm 🤔



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,402 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    18z gfs control ups the ante further. A violent system to our Southwest with life threatening storm surge!!

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    When looking at this evening's model output showing exceptionally stormy conditions for Ireland and Britain around a week out from now, bear in mind that the end result will likely be different in terms of intensity, exact track of any system, likely impact etc.

    Any such system has not yet formed. The smallest of changes to multiple variables 3,000 miles from here over the coming few days will have a bearing on what happens a week from now. Ridging high pressure to our east could also inhibit the eastward trajectory of systems.

    Keep an eye on the trend, which is for the Jetstream to become fired up next week and to act as a conveyor belt for low pressure systems across the Atlantic. Tonight's GEFS mean continues to show the potential for stormy conditions on these islands next week. The finer details will come into focus early next week.

    Don't go panic buying bread and toilet roll.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭pauldry


    All January the forecast for next weekend has been flipping between very windy to cold and wintry but yesterday stopped for a couple of runs. Could be the windy solution with a brief snow/sleet interlude before. Ya probably more weekend power cuts, lost mail and busted shipping ports.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    The strongest of the winds to the south of it so yellow warnings anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,112 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    GFS and ICON have a fairly nasty storm next Friday evening.

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    ECM and GEM have it much deeper but high pressure to our east keeps it at bay. One to watch

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭Ros4Sam24


    Ohhh.. “Niege”

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭Thunder87


    Yep, worth keeping an eye on this thing from both a storm and snow POV. Has potential to be a potent storm but also drag in some cold on its back edge

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,539 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    I hope this storm just goes away, we already had enough storms and power outages this season from the last storm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭squarecircles


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    Snow for everyone.said nobody ever.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭adocholiday


    The storm looks deep alright but the only model bringing any significant winds our way is the Icon which comes with its usual health warning. ECM possibly yellow on the west coast Friday afternoon, GFS keeps the winds to the south and then east of us but even highest gusts out to see aren't notable. GEM similar to ECM.

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