The accelerating fall in Sinn Féin support

taratee

Might just be the ups and downs that we see with opinions polls. Wouldn't surprise me if they are above 30% in the next poll. However, immigration is a problem for them. Unlike housing and health, they can't deal with the issue by wooing people with numbers. Doubt that their support for Hamas, the Houthi movement etc is having that much of an impact. The Middle East isn't going to sway most people here. Ditto for NI. Doubt most people know that the assembly is up and running again. I not overly worried about SF in government. I just see FF 2.0. MLMD is a wannabe FFer after all.

Chris_5339762

A sudden "Oh **** these people might actually get in".

Ten of Swords

Mod - back on topic please

Pherekydes

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121737883#Comment_121737883

If this is true why is there not a corresponding drift towards right wing parties? It seems to me that Labour and SD are recovering votes they lost to SF over the last number of years.

standardg60

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121738735#Comment_121738735

This thread is about SF's poll numbers.

Have you not turned enough threads into a focus on your own self inflicted shame at this stage?

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121738617#Comment_121738617

Can't - she doesn't reply to people

We booted her out of the council on the first count in 2019 but somehow she got elected as a TD a few months later; and has been as absent and useless a TD as she was a Councillor

On the polls - todays one shows them losing votes to centre left parties as SF themselves move to the centre. The RedC poll suggested they were losing votes to the right. Both could actually be true at the same time.

tibruit

I would have thought that a promise to wipe 130k off the value of an average Dublin house would upset a lot of home owners.

tom23

labour ? god no please. i hope they don’t recover to much.

Trigger Happy

Independents getting 17%. This is always a head scratcher for me. Do people think independents will solve the bigger issues or is it a local vote for the national stage?

thegame983

I'm not surprised to see polling flip flop between different parties.

They're all useless.

Pherekydes

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121738844#Comment_121738844

So who did you vote for? 🤔

standardg60

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121738833#Comment_121738833

There's always a healthy protest/anti establishment vote every election. Last time homelessness was the main driver, a boon to SF. This has spawned into an anti immigration vote now, and none of the establishment parties have a policy reflecting that view, hence the move to independents.

Independents can murmur about immigration to get elected, safe in the knowledge the chances they'd be charged with doing anything about it are slim.

Bobson Dugnutt

Voting for independents is a complete waste of time. It fragments the political landscape.

Spanish Eyes

Voting Indo is a serious option for those who feel the incumbents, and of course SF as an alternative are useless and are not listening to them.

Who knows, Indos may hold the balance of power if they form an alliance of sorts, say on the immigration issue. As people feel the major parties are "all the same", I suspect many will tick the Indo box as a protest.

Then again, maybe I'm wrong.

Floppybits

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121738991#Comment_121738991

Plus most of the independents are either ex FF or ex FG and as we have seen rarely if ever vote against them. SF have really got themselves into a mess now trying to be all things to all people in an effort to woo FF and lets face it that is all it is. They want to be in the next government and to do that they need to make themselves more appealing to FF or else they wont get in or if they do manage to cobble together a patchwork quilt of a government without either FF or FG then it won't last a wet week especially if it includes PBP.

Bobson Dugnutt

A government with PbP in it would last less than a month. Genuinely. There’s no one pure enough for a Trot. The Free Presbyterians of politics.

Rosahane

It's down to, inter alia:

Immigration, especially with their links to Islamic, ahem, "causes" and their support for undocumented single men contrasts with the opinions of their urban base.

Housing; where their duplicity in their opposition to applications in their own constituencies and their stupid proposal about capping prices at €300K is seen as silly by anybody with an IQ in double figures.

Their elected representatives many of whom are barely literate and grossly incompetent. Of course, they were themselves surprised when these people got elected and are now culling them before the next election in favour of opportunistic middle class marxists which will also cause problems.

Belfast. Its obvious that the godfathers still call the shots and make policy. Many of their representatives have been banned from doing press interviews in case they go off the script.

Their links to ongoing criminality.

Etc.

All very amusing😀

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121738991#Comment_121738991

It'll give the current crop of parties a good kick up the arse and let them know just who actually calls the shots at election time. Anyway at this stage I'd rather have local independents (plural note) representing our needs than an out of touch executive up in Dublin making decisions regardless of public opinion.

Bobtheman

I feel that a far right Party will capture around 10 seats.

SF need to say something meaningful and well pitched on immigration.

It's inevitable they will

Bobtheman

It's also fair to say most voters (including myself) haven't made up their minds yet fully.

Bobson Dugnutt

Like it’s a democracy so people can vote for independents. Doesn’t mean it isn’t a waste of time though. It’s parochialism, he fixed the road, that will show those big shots up in Dublin politics.

It’s short termism and cutting off your nose to spite your face stuff. Independents will never implement a difficult budget, argue for a foreign affairs position at EU level etc.

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121740262#Comment_121740262

Give the fact the current parties can't even capture any, and even are showing no real support in the polls, what makes you think that?

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121738818#Comment_121738818

Have they ever clarified how they intend to do that?

live4tkd

They wanted zero Covid and that finished them with me!

The most useless opposition party in my lifetime that seem to be in tune with every government policy. They need to sack their advisors as they have had many a chance to capitalize on government failures since the last election but their silence has been deafening!

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121738991#Comment_121738991

This is an issue I have with the whole thing. Should I not be voting for someone to represent me rather than a bum on a seat for a party and any of my issues get swallowed up on the party?

Water John

You vote for someone who largely aligns with your POV. They however, once elected, use their judgement on issues.

Bobtheman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121740378#Comment_121740378

Was it something like a third of people in a recent poll said they'd vote for a far right Party? A lot of people might not be certain at this point which far right parties are out there but that issue should come into focus by election time.

mikethecop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121738018#Comment_121738018

who knows who the leader of sf really is ?

just who is on the army council these days ?