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Whistleblower: Maurice McCabe

  • 12-11-2018 9:52pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Sycamore Tree


    RTE are doing a two part documentary on Sgt Maurice McCabe. I think it should be a must watch for people. This honourable man was nearly destroyed by a corrupt Garda management for trying to do the right thing.

    His courage and bravery should be rewarded by the state but I think any future whistleblowers will think twice before trying to highlight bad practice in the Gardaí.
    Post edited by JupiterKid on


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    But RTÉ never show the state in a bad light as they are controlled by the government?

    We’re told everyday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭Samuel Vimes


    There should be an annual Maurice McCabe award for outstanding personal contribution to the public interest.
    And it should not be awarded by or decided on by Politicians!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    I am sorry but the RTÉ Player is a joke, it's hopping and buffering all over the place here at 512k. Do RTE invest in anything other than paying high salaries, this is not the first time this has happened when I have gone to watch a popular live programme.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    Watched a bit of it but switched it off. Over the top and mawkish. There was a report produced by the tribunal that contains all the facts.

    I could do without the ominous mood music and lingering close ups. This, unfortunately, appears to be the way that RTE likes to deal with some factual current affairs topics. Turning an important series of events in Irish life into a sentimental TV show. I think it detracts from the seriousness of the events.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭AmberGold


    KaneToad wrote: »
    Watched a bit of it but switched it off. Over the top and mawkish. There was a report produced by the tribunal that contains all the facts.

    I could do without the ominous mood music and lingering close ups. This, unfortunately, appears to be the way that RTE likes to deal with some factual current affairs topics. Turning an important series of events in Irish life into a sentimental TV show. I think it detracts from the seriousness of the events.

    Ok Garda..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,685 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Question.

    If MMcC was in charge of a station, could be not have the ability to discipline a junior guard?

    Rather than resign.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    AmberGold wrote: »
    Ok Garda..

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭mattser


    KaneToad wrote: »
    Watched a bit of it but switched it off. Over the top and mawkish. There was a report produced by the tribunal that contains all the facts.

    I could do without the ominous mood music and lingering close ups. This, unfortunately, appears to be the way that RTE likes to deal with some factual current affairs topics. Turning an important series of events in Irish life into a sentimental TV show. I think it detracts from the seriousness of the events.

    Plus boats, exhaust pipes, dogs, crows, cats, more crows, etc etc.

    Can they not concentrate on the subject matter.

    Absolute amateur TV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    TallGlass wrote: »
    I am sorry but the RTÉ Player is a joke, it's hopping and buffering all over the place here at 512k.

    Yeah, does that on my TV player app as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    RTE are clueless - they seem to take their style cues from the worst sort of American touchy-feely crap. This sort of topic needs a hard, cold eyed stare.


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,235 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    mattser wrote: »
    Plus boats, exhaust pipes, dogs, crows, cats, more crows, etc etc.

    Can they not concentrate on the subject matter.

    Absolute amateur TV.
    Is the subject matter a rehash if the tribunal or an interview on how the whole episode affected the McCabes?
    No harm in showing boats, dogs and whatever else!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    So far this is shocking stuff.

    Guards turing up at incidents drunk, drunk driving in police vehicles and false allegations of sexual assualt made out of spite. Oh and not bothering to turn up to work at the weekend and not bothering to attend repoted incidents. Good grief. And the programe isn't half over yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,718 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Sure why not have Katie Hannon just sit there with a white background and read an hours worth of script?

    Eejits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,869 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    TallGlass wrote: »
    I am sorry but the RTÉ Player is a joke, it's hopping and buffering all over the place here at 512k. Do RTE invest in anything other than paying high salaries, this is not the first time this has happened when I have gone to watch a popular live programme.

    Off Topic, I know, but I share your frustration.

    I find RTE player to be reliably atrocious every single time I attempt to watch live tv on it. Never works properly, buffering and stuttering. But the ads on it - all of the seemingly never ending unskippable ads - work completely flawlessly every single time. It really is a joke. Even the tv3player - or whatever it's called now - works with more consistency. And it's been like this for years, you'd think they'd make some effort to solve the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    This may seems a bit controversial

    what happened to him is sick.

    But he does seem like he was an awkward fecker to be honest.
    You wouldn't like to work with him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    RTE are clueless - they seem to take their style cues from the worst sort of American touchy-feely crap. This sort of topic needs a hard, cold eyed stare.

    Who cares about the style it's the content that matters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt



    But he does seem like he was an awkward fecker to be honest.
    You wouldn't like to work with him.

    How can you say that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Sycamore Tree


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Question.

    If MMcC was in charge of a station, could be not have the ability to discipline a junior guard?

    Rather than resign.

    Question.

    The Disclosures Tribunal found that the most senior Garda in the country - former commissioner Martin Callinan consciously smeared Garda McCabe. Mr Callinan was found to have run a “campaign of calumny” against Sgt McCabe.

    How was Callinan punished?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,350 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    This may seems a bit controversial

    what happened to him is sick.

    But he does seem like he was an awkward fecker to be honest.
    You wouldn't like to work with him.

    You are judging him on what you've seem on TV or press.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,869 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    This may seems a bit controversial

    what happened to him is sick.

    But he does seem like he was an awkward fecker to be honest.
    You wouldn't like to work with him.

    It's usually the awkward feckers who challenge the status quo. But, I see what you mean. But in the case, considering what he helped bring into public light about the culture in the force, then, I guess, too bad about the fellas he worked with.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Sycamore Tree


    This may seems a bit controversial

    what happened to him is sick.

    But he does seem like he was an awkward fecker to be honest.
    You wouldn't like to work with him.

    You don't like working with honest people?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    This may seems a bit controversial

    what happened to him is sick.

    But he does seem like he was an awkward fecker to be honest.
    You wouldn't like to work with him.

    Hardly awkward, what he was pointing out was serious. Off duty Garda with access to a patrol car, pissed and for some reason at a crime scene, trainees pulling the plug on cases that included serious crimes, shouldn't have been investigating them to begin with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    AllForIt wrote: »
    How can you say that?

    we have all come across people who are hard to work with and for.

    He seems like a guy who pulled everyone up for everything and we are only hearing his side of the story now.

    A reporter who covered the story before - said much the same as above.

    It is no excuse for what happened - but I'm sure people didn't like working with him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    You'd have to say he could have walked. Anyone else probably would have. It took some courage and strength to keep going in light of what was going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    AllForIt wrote: »
    Who cares about the style it's the content that matters.

    The content is important enough to be presented in a factual manner without the need for arty abstract images and mood music to manipulate the viewers.

    Let the facts speak for themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Ashleigh1986


    This may seems a bit controversial

    what happened to him is sick.

    But he does seem like he was an awkward fecker to be honest.
    You wouldn't like to work with him.

    Awkward ??? The man wanted other gardai to be like him.
    He was paid to do a job and he wanted to do it right .
    What da **** is wrong with people in this country ???
    Members of the force were drink driving , not turning up for work , cancelling penalty points .
    This really is a banana republic .
    Full of gob****es that do a job , take the pay and do **** all .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    we have all come across people who are hard to work with and for.

    He seems like a guy who pulled everyone up for everything and we are only hearing his side of the story now.

    A reporter who covered the story before - said much the same as above.

    It is no excuse for what happened - but I'm sure people didn't like working with him.

    He exposed shocking failing in the Gardai so naturally the ones who were inept didnt like working with him.

    What he did served to fix the problems so I can't see how anyone can claim he was being awkward just for the sake of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Awkward ??? The man wanted other gardai to be like him.
    He was paid to do a job and he wanted to do it right .
    What da **** is wrong with people in this country ???
    Members of the force were drink driving , not turning up for work , cancelling penalty points .
    This really is a banana republic .
    Full of gob****es that do a job , take the pay and do **** all .

    There decent hard working Garda in the force. It would take a brave person to come out if something was wrong in the Garda, watching this you'd never open your mouth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Sycamore Tree


    KaneToad wrote: »
    The content is important enough to be presented in a factual manner without the need for arty abstract images and mood music to manipulate the viewers.

    Let the facts speak for themselves.

    You turned off the program so why are you still commenting on it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,490 ✭✭✭✭Zeek12


    Question.

    The Disclosures Tribunal found that the most senior Garda in the country - former commissioner Martin Callinan consciously smeared Garda McCabe. Mr Callinan was found to have run a “campaign of calumny” against Sgt McCabe.

    How was Callinan punished?

    The Tribunal had no powers to punish him.

    He is facing a legal action from McCabe - for which the taxpayer will have to pick up the bill for his defence.
    Apparently this is normal practice, as he's an ex-Garda comissioner !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,516 ✭✭✭Wheety


    A few in here trying to discredit the show. You'd wonder what their agenda is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Wheety wrote: »
    A few in here trying to discredit the show. You'd wonder what their agenda is.

    Well RTE are doing a good job at that themselves for us online viewers.

    This is getting so bad I think I will have to give it a miss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Wheety wrote: »
    A few in here trying to discredit the show. You'd wonder what their agenda is.

    Higher quality TV is my agenda! They could get rid of the woosey ambient X files styled music track.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,460 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Alan Shatter was some **** in all this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,878 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I didn't know the gritty details of this case to be honest, pretty shocking stuff to say the least, Maurice McCabe was treated appallingly, if the Gardaí can treat one of their own like this, think what they could have done to normal citizens.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭yew_tree


    Lesson here is if you go up against state forces, the state will try to bury you. And People wonder why Americans are so paranoid about their government and state forces...maybe we should be too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,685 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    KaneToad wrote: »
    The content is important enough to be presented in a factual manner without the need for arty abstract images and mood music to manipulate the viewers.

    Let the facts speak for themselves.

    Its called padding.

    It's the new way of making a 30min show into 2hrs.

    Happens everywhere.

    Ever watch Making A Murderer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭poppers


    gmisk wrote: »
    I didn't know the gritty details of this case to be honest, pretty shocking stuff to say the least, Maurice McCabe was treated appallingly, if the Gardaí can treat one of their own like this, think what they could have done to normal citizens.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/mcbrearty-claims-that-richie-barron-was-killed-by-garda-1.1013409%3fmode=amp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    TallGlass wrote: »
    I am sorry but the RTÉ Player is a joke, it's hopping and buffering all over the place here at 512k. Do RTE invest in anything other than paying high salaries, this is not the first time this has happened when I have gone to watch a popular live programme.

    Player is shîťê as usual. MOBDRO yer only man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 helenmaria1970


    AmberGold wrote: »
    Ok Garda..

    ðŸ˜


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I really don't think the production value is all that relevant here.

    Also, he may seem awkward because maybe he doesn't enjoy rehashing his journey to hell and back. And in front of a camera.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭AGC


    TallGlass wrote: »
    Well RTE are doing a good job at that themselves for us online viewers.

    This is getting so bad I think I will have to give it a miss.

    Had to turn it off. RTÉ player is a mess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    We have very poor standards in high office across this state.

    We have very little transparency or accountability.

    We are well capable of abusing power.

    Until we start jailing offenders like Callinan for offenses against the state we will never see the end of it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭Walter.White


    TallGlass wrote: »
    I am sorry but the RTÉ Player is a joke, it's hopping and buffering all over the place here at 512k. Do RTE invest in anything other than paying high salaries, this is not the first time this has happened when I have gone to watch a popular live programme.

    I hate the rte player its absolutely shocking, can't watch anything live on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    KaneToad wrote: »
    The content is important enough to be presented in a factual manner without the need for arty abstract images and mood music to manipulate the viewers.

    Let the facts speak for themselves.

    You are the one that is distractiing from the content as are those who are talking about the failings of the RTE Player as if they care more about online TV than the credibility and effectiveness of our police service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    When you play back Callinan's calumny together it like this, it makes you wonder how the f**k that disgusting c**t had gotten away with it thus far. You'd hope he gets his just deserts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    TallGlass wrote: »
    Well RTE are doing a good job at that themselves for us online viewers.

    This is getting so bad I think I will have to give it a miss.

    Have they accused him of fathering any children yet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Part two tomorrow I take it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,507 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    9.35 pm tomorrow. I hope as many people as possible will watch it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭djPSB


    Callinan should be locked up.


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