US Presidential Election 2024 - Primary Debates, News, Etc.

Rjd2 · 17-01-2024 2:41am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121625710#Comment_121625710

Its possible it doesn't mean a great deal, yeah turnout was low but it was still a crushing victory in a state he was not bothered about and up against a guy who had a lot of the Iowa infrastructure on his side while Haley spent a fortune towards the end their.

And then the weather and how uncompetitive it was compared to 2016.

The next few primaries will tell us more, but its nowhere as bad as the pro Biden media are spinning and maybe their is a few things to wary about from a Trump POV.

pjohnson · 17-01-2024 9:44am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121627272#Comment_121627272

Standing on a wet floor too. This is pure NSFW content. I think the MAGA's will need a smoke and a lie down after seeing that.

Frank Bullitt · 17-01-2024 10:19am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121627134#Comment_121627134

He polled lower than in 2020, this is far from “crushing” at all. If anything it’s a bigger sign that the GOP in general might be in a spot of bother.

Trump was always going to win this, the numbers point towards a lacklustre performance.

pixelburp · 17-01-2024 10:33am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121627612#Comment_121627612

Plus, given a significant chunk of Haley voters admitted they'd simply transfer their vote to Biden when the time comes? That's a pretty bold statement of intent from what should have read like a degree of party unity in traditional Republican voting pools. I don't doubt Trump will ultimately be the Candidate, but it's not cut and dry IMO.

The MAGA cults over there, and schoolyard posters here might like to trumpet about Trump's energy(!?) or his inevitable romp back to the White House but he is now something he wasn't in 2016 - a Known Quantity. Lowercase R republicans obviously have a track record to examine now and if Haley's supporters - however smaller they are in comparison with Trump - are saying Biden's the better choice it also incurs the obvious follow-up theorising about what wandering, unattached voters think of the choice here.

2016 had the smell of "Fúck it, give the CEO guy a go"; 2024 won't be that punt anymore, it'll be a choice to give the guy who whirled about adding nothing but chaos in the end, another go at that same chaotic angle. Or stick with a centrist corporate Democrat who those small-R types can hold their own noses for.

briany · 17-01-2024 12:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121627661#Comment_121627661

It's worth noting that Trump increased his vote tally in 2020 as a known quantity and secured the most votes of any Republican candidate in history. Biden would need 2020 levels of voter engagement in order to be victorious, because assuming the Trump vote will drop off seems incredibly dangerous.

ELM327 · 17-01-2024 12:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628164#Comment_121628164

Playing devils advocate. Biden's vote will go down but so will trump's.

I'm not anti vax but there is a sizeable minority of trump supporters from 2016 and 2020 that will no longer vote for him as he supported the "global hoax" of covid and the vaccine.

briany · 17-01-2024 12:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628205#Comment_121628205

So, you're saying that Trump's vote will go down because a big chunk of voters feel he wasn't conspiratorial ENOUGH?

Where are these people? Are they organising in any way that gives us a good idea of their number?

ELM327 · 17-01-2024 1:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628339#Comment_121628339

Look at any extreme MAGA post on X. Or alternatively, look at well known GOP supporters that backed trump in 2020 but don't now. An example would be the founder of Gays against Groomers who while being a loud republican is firmly pro desantis and anti trump this time.

Not saying its all of them but these posts and people would represent a segment of the silent majority who voted trump in 2016 and less so in 2020

swampgas · 17-01-2024 2:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628734#Comment_121628734

We have to assume that they don't care about him being a rapist, but don't want to have to admit it in public. Possibly they buy into the "imperfect vessel" shtick that the evangelicals came up with, or maybe they simply don't think rape is a big deal. But either way, they know they will be crucified for saying that out loud, so just pretend the question was never asked.

For Forks Sake · 17-01-2024 2:34pm

These are the people who claim to be concerned with "Election Fraud" 🙄🙄

https://twitter.com/rondeaulivia/status/1747077452877455437?t=1WjPii5qMJoCQURmOizzQA&s=19

ancapailldorcha · 17-01-2024 3:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628818#Comment_121628818

I think it's supposed to be some sort of suave tactic where we look like fools for not being able to compute that one can be against both. They inevitably blow it is the problem with almost every word by defending an actual Nazi.