US Presidential Election 2024 - Primary Debates, News, Etc.

Primary season is here and the road to Tuesday, November 5th, 2024 begins tonight with the first Republican primary debate in Milwaukee.

• Date: August 23rd, 2023/August 24th (2am Irish time)
• Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
• Venue: Fiserv Forum
• Partners: Fox News, Young America's Foundation, and Rumble
• Moderators: Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum

Donald Trump has decided not to partake so the participants in the debate will be;

• Doug Burgum (R)
• Chris Christie (R)
• Ron DeSantis (R)
• Nikki Haley (R)
• Asa Hutchinson (R)
• Mike Pence (R)
• Vivek Ramaswamy (R)
• Tim Scott (R)

As things stand, the Democrats do not plan on having any primary debates as Joe Biden is running for re-election.

DirectorKrennic

Is Trump gonna win the GOP nomination? His poll lead right now is massive.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121019310#Comment_121019310

Ted Cruz was the frontrunner and winner of the Iowa caucus in 2016.

Rick Santorum won in 2012.

Mike Huckabee won in 2008.

If Trump wins Iowa the world can breathe easy.

DeSantis is as corrupt as they come

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058294962/ron-desantis-is-corrupt-as-hell-because-why-not

Nimrata insists we are not a racist country but she had to change her name to fit in around here. Last year during the runoff election she called for the sitting black american US senator of Georgia to be deported. She's vile. Ran out of her South Carolina governorship to be Trump's UN ambassador then in less than a year iirc abruptly quit that job too, under the auspice of reporters asking her about unannounced gifts she received in the form of private jet travel (see what's going on with the Supreme Court). By vacating the governorship it went to Henry McMaster, who won the seat again, proceeding to call for Democrats to be hunted down with dogs.

Vivek is some kind of plant, he has no path to the presidency. His campaign is centered around legalizing pot and pardoning donald trump to "heal the country," he still denies the 2020 election results and has denied but been caught out spreading conspiracy theories about federal agents on the 9/11 planes. Also unironically retweets shirtless photos of himself, the type of thing you might see Putin or other wannabe autocrats do, just a part of the playbook.

https://www.mediaite.com/?s=vivek

Doug Burgum is a total nobody, and Asa Hutchinson lacks a clear base.

Tim Scott is a fairly dubious politician also. He won his senatorship talking about his experience as a black man in America, getting profiled and pulled over constantly etc. and often plays up his blackness when it is convenient (see his "Keep Yo Money" campaign), but when criticizing his democratic rivals, tends to insist they must be crazy, how could they think this was a racist country, etc.; he has deep pocket interests in trying to ensure the education system gets privatized.

Chris Christie is the person worth watching to night but hell would freeze over to get my vote given how long it took him to detach himself from donald trump (it took Trump's defiant "we did win this election" speech the night Biden was announced the winner, about 4 days after the vote, and after almost a full Donald trump term in office), says he couldn't imagine pardoning Trump.... BUT, maybe if he was 'treated unfairly by the proceedings' - which could mean anything. They have been friends for decades, fellow new yorkers.

ghostfacekilla

I'm hoping for Christie to come in like a Sinaloan cowboy with a golden machine gun. The guy can debate. Ramaswamy will try and shout his way to a few extra percentage points. Kudos to anyone who calls out his fraud of investors which got him his fortune or anyone pulling out the golden arrow, which is repeatedly referring to Trump as a 'convicted sex offender'. I'm surprised Christie hasn't gone there yet. It would definitely lower Trump's lead if he did.

Overheal

No matter what happens, Fox News predetermines that viewers will be getting corralled away from having to hear more of Chris Christie's Bobby Hill Shennanigans than they absolutely have to

https://www.mediaite.com/radio/fox-post-debate-host-sean-hannity-says-hes-not-going-to-waste-time-on-chris-christie/

ghostfacekilla

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121019318#Comment_121019318

Vivek talking about removing preferential funding to Israel, pardoning Snowdon and Assange, 'giving' Russia parts of Ukraine as if the U.S. owned Ukraine, moving the Taiwanese chip industry to the U.S. and letting China have Taiwan is just amateur hour stuff. He's just angling for a V.P. spot with an eye on a shot at the presidency at the following election. It's sad that humans with his character are even making the stage tonight.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121019325#Comment_121019325

Exactly what I'm hoping for from Chris Christie.

In 2016 he went against his natural instincts and decided to play the sensible politician. He then sucked up to Trump hoping to become VP.

Tonight he has f*ck all to lose so should just go up there and ride the arse off everyone. He's by far the funniest, most charismatic and best debater up there.

I've just talked myself into throwing a few quid on him to be the nominee and to win the presidency.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121019336#Comment_121019336

You mentioned so much that I missed, that's why I just link to the search for him now, it's so many things and all of them as you said, looking to demand attention.

I forgot to mention Pence in my post but I guess I'm still having a brain aneurysm that he still says he would support Donald Trump if he's the nominee.

ghostfacekilla

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121019339#Comment_121019339

It wouldn't be a bad bet. Someone referred to him a few weeks ago as a 'guy who'd challenge you to a barfight'. Keep in mind that the combined number of percentage points of 'never trumpers' and undecided within the republican voters make it possible for a non maga candidate win. Christie could take Biden, he's the only person apart from Trump that could get close, I think.

Overheal

Had to give my email address to fox news to tune in. Stepping into the bubble again, as they all complain about Biden's "Dark Brandon" ad spend

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4166356-dark-brandon-ads-backing-abortion-rights-swarm-foxnews-com-ahead-of-debate/

He has even spent money to advertise directly on Fox News.

Nobody says Let's Go Brandon anymore hmm.

Sean Hannity acting as the pillow talk surrogate already. Who needs an official campaign surrogate in the spin room when you have Sean Hannity.

https://nypost.com/2023/08/21/fox-news-tells-trump-surrogates-they-are-no-longer-welcomed-at-first-debate-report/

Time to (literally) throw the popcorn in the microwave.

ghostfacekilla

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121019352#Comment_121019352

Available to see here also.

https://www.livenewsmag.com/fox-news-live-stream/

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121019354#Comment_121019354

I'm out of microwave bags and I aint whipping out the stove kernels for this, hardly a special enough ocassion.

ghostfacekilla

I can't see Trump coming up with anything that would win him new voters on the Tucker interview on X. He's going to be severely muted by his lawyers, so it'll be heavily contained drivel, compared to the usual crap.

Overheal

Doug Burgam was originally thought to skip tonights debate because he was hospitalized this morning for a basketball sprain/injury. He bought his way on to the stage in a very Pay to Win manner, nothing to do with democratic popularity, he got on the debate stage because "I'm rich":

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/11/1186991717/doug-burgum-gift-cards-gop-republican-primary-debate

But he's hit the stage now for press photos.

ghostfacekilla

America might have been ready to elect a black president but I strongly suspect they're not ready to elect a woman president no matter how strong the character, sadly. I believe Nikki Haley is wasting her time, unless she's aiming for a possible prominent cabinet position.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121019372#Comment_121019372

And the elephant in the room is Trump's base will probably not accept a non white president. Nikki, Scott, Vivek, etc. are at best, running for the VP slot.

Overheal

More cheers for Doug Burgam than Asa Hutchinson or Chris Christie - both of whom highly critical of Trump. Both were boo'd by audience during their introduction.

ghostfacekilla

Absolutely. Vivek peddling conspiracy nonsense is a desperate attempt to get the junior ku klux klan to see past his skin color.

Overheal

The first question is 'Biden Derangement Syndrome' about Bidenomics, featuring biden clips and hand selected man on the street interviews. They're still introducing the question, quoting "Rich Men North of Richmond" a trending song that they are trying to fake-grassroots I guess.

Q: "Why is this song striking such a nerve in this country right now?"

I've never heard it.

Ron: "we need to send joe biden back to his basement!" /woo! "Hunter Biden's paintings! /woo. "Energy dominant!" "I will not let you down! /pause for photo, Genuine Smile.exe"

Christie: "We need to get a majority in the Congress" "I got the vote in a blue state" "I got the experience" "we cut taxes and debt in NJ" "Truth and Accountability to Fight Waste" "Your children and grandchildren are being robbed etc" /cheers

Scott: "We need to cut off the spigot TM"

Moderator: But you approved $4.4T during the Trump administration?

Scott: "....bbbut Covid ;_: don't you know we had unemployment at all time lows before biden had them at even aller time lows? INFLATION!!!"

etc.

Vivek completely ignores the question and shouts into an introductory speech that I'm sure you'll see in a viral moment for being somewhat cringey, coked/caffeinated to hell, and 'whos this guy with the funny naming' himself because he has to appeal to a base he knows would in any other setting racially profile him.

Scott bringing up helping to write the 2017 tax-cut bill is one hell of move when attempting to attract moderate republicans and indies..

GOD DAMN!

Nikki Haley brought hot sauce for everyone haha

Rjd2

Another thread for the Biden and Trump fanatics to hang out 🤣

Rjd2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121019385#Comment_121019385

His politics and this is been kind is middle of the road Reaganism with a smile.

Overheal

Pence: "I've been in the hallway, I've been in the white house"

You've been in the basement, you've been in the truck bay, Mike.

Overheal

Vivek completely ignores the question and shouts into an introductory speech that I'm sure you'll see in a viral moment for being somewhat cringey, coked/caffeinated to hell, and 'whos this guy with the funny naming' himself because he has to appeal to a base he knows would in any other setting racially profile him.

Then has the audacity to attack Pence for sloganeering,

And he literally called for American Revolution. Interesting, that will surely appeal to the moderates /s

ghostfacekilla

Poor moderating and awful questioning so far. Them attacking the non maga candidates are pretty obvious.

Overheal

Holy heck, Fox News tackling Climate Change,

"How will you calm fears that the GOP doesn't care about climate change?"

Ron: "Let's have the debate [boos - they were asked to show hands not take control from the moderators] on whether climate change is human influenced! The corporate media is unfair to democrats! Biden said no comment?" He's going on a complete tangent on prepared remarks to attack Biden for his Maui response, not actually address the issues of climate change.

Vivek: "The climate change agenda is a Hoax" - Huge crowd boos. Huge crowd boos. Hope in humanity partially restored.

Chris Christie: "I'm sick of [Vivek] who sounds like ChatGPT" Yuge cheers.

Vivek: "Give me a hug just like you did to Obama!" /cringe, crowd doesn't buy in.

Nikki: "We do care about clean air and water but the right way to (yes climate change is real) but we need to tell Chinah to lower her ahmissions" Yes, she's bringing the tabasco sauce.

Moderator: 'Tim Scott are you bought and paid for?' Ouch.

Tim: "as a kid who grew up in poverty" here we go... /zzz "Bring our jobs home from China! 10 million new jobs!" ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Keeps running over time, but the crowd loves the humor of it all.

Ramaswamy definitely angling for vice-presidency.

ghostfacekilla

I thought Christie would come out fighting better than he did. He really needs to shine in the remainder of the debate or his campaign is effectively over. Scott is just too beige. Hutchison totally anonymous, Haley sounds uneducated outside of U.S affairs. Ramaswamy just sounds like a dud political version of Russell Brand. Shrieking nonsense statements. De Santis losing steam. I think this debate will be the beginning of the end for him. Mike Pence may as well call it a day also, he has the personality of an American Pat Kenny.

How the f*ck have the moderators left DeSantis' anecdotal story about a woman surviving "multiple abortion attempts and left in a pan" go totally unchallenged?

Her grandmother PICKED HER OUT OF A PAN AND TOOK HER TO ANOTHER HOSPITAL?????????

Quite possibly the most outrageous thing ever uttered in a debate anywhere.

Overheal

Q: Abortion has been a losing issue for GOP since Dobbs. Even in red states there are more referenda coming up. Gov Haley what do you say to your state, and your party, about the 6 week ban that was just upheld in SC?

Nimrata: 'I am unapologetically pro life; we need to stop demonizing this issue; the justices didn't(did?) need to decide something this personal. It's with the people now. Can't we ban late term abortions, encourage adoptions, shouldnt we have contraceptives? we need to humanize not demonize'

Q: you need to shift to get moderators or you will lose Ron Desantis how do you pivot?

Ron: "I believe in a culture of life I signed the heartbeat bill" "No abortion up to birth"

Mod: Would you sign a 6 week ban?

Ron: ... states will do it different but I will promote the cause of life

Pence: After I gave mah life to Jesus [woo!] etc. I'ma champion for life, sorry Nikki but compromise isn't leadership (again, he will support Trump if he is the nominee, cuckoo), something something abortion pain... I support a 15 week ban.

Nikki: It's in the hands of the people and that's where it should be but be honest, no republican president can ban abortions than a democrat president can ban those state laws, you KNOW we don't have those senate votes, we have NEVER had 60 pro life votes in the Senate

Mod: SCOTUS sent it back to the States, Doug Burham you're not in favor of a ban, some states allow it up to birth, would you be able to abide that?

Doug: I'm a pro life governor of a pro life state - we should NOT have a federal abortion ban, it's the 10th amendment (Those powers not delegated to the congress or by the constitution are kept by the states or by the people). Feds are stepping into peoples lives and businesses over and over, where do we stop?!

Mod: You signed a 6 week ban Gov Burgam, federally you think it should all go to the states.

Doug Burgam: Yes, what works in North Dakota will never work in New York and vice versa.

Asa: Biden is pushing abortion on demand! (no, he's not, he supports the roe position, about 15 weeks with exceptions), every state can determine a different outcome.

Tim Scott: abortion up to birth is immoral and wrong! We must fight for a minimum 15 week limit, I'm 100% pro life record, I have the pro life membership card, I have the pro life bumper sticker, The creator TM! We can't leave it to Minnesota and Illinois!

Nikki: Are Biden and Kamala for up to term abortions (not without exceptions, Nimrata)

Overheal

Pence: Extend trump tax cuts and abolish the department of education

Overheal

Q: What would President Christie do about guns?

Christie: I ran the 5th largest federal prosecutors office in the country and one of the most violent... localities are refusing to arrest criminals. I would appoint an AG to enact a broad DOJ action to force federal charges on these perps in these jurisdictions and put them in federal jails. Hunter Biden!

Q: What does POTUS Ramaswamy do about guns?

Vivek: Do we have the spine? More cops without looking over their shoulder for getting sued (Jesus, unchain the pitbulls). Something something mental health epidemic, lots of identitarianism waffle, close the border, "who we really are" I am unclear what his point is other than to threaten rampant fascism. Definitely the type of thing a VP would say to be good impeachment insurance for a frontrunner. Says "We are in a Cold Cultural Civil War."

Q: " " " " Desantis " ?

Ron: Fire the Radical leftwing district attorneys! I'm the only guy in this country who has ever done anything about this crisis (hubris much)! I will get off on firing people left right and center! Who needs elected DA's anyway? Elect me and I will tell you who your DA is. (I might be heavily paraphrasing but I defy y'all to fact check me on this)

I was about to turn off this nonsense as not a single claim is being challenged by mods.

But the topic of The Donald is up next...

ghostfacekilla

Let’s see who fires shots at Trump now

Overheal

Q: "Yall signed a pledge, would you still support Trump if he's convicted?"

Christie and Asa refuse, Christie waves his finger at the mods for normalizing his conduct.

"Whether you believe the charges are right or wrong, the conduct is beneath the office of the POTUS" [mixed reaction]

"Booing is allowed but it doesn't change the truth." [Boooooo]

Vivek: I believe Trump is the best President of the century, [engages prepared remarks against christie.exe], I'm running for [vice] President of the united states, we have to end the weaponization of justice.

Christie: "You make me laugh because you sit here [BOOOOOOOOOO] and answer -- " Mods have to scold the audience like children "You answer about law and order - your book had much different things to say about Trump [Vivek: That's a lie] You've never done anything to advance the interests of this government. I stood up for law and order as Prosecutor, as Governor (cough, bridgegate, but he owned up to this). Trump said it's okay to Suspend the constitution. That's not okay the pledge is to Defend."

Overheal

Q: Pence has faced hecklers on the trail for his actions on Jan 6. Pence moved forward with certifying, did he do the right thing Sen Scott?

Tim: absolutely [claps and applause] ... Im gonna fire Chris Wray and Fire Merrick Garland and appoint the people I want because.. lady justice is blind, except when he does it. Dragging up talking point about DOJ and PTA meetings and an investigation about allegations of terroristic threats. "I will bring change to the greatest nation on gods green earth" nearly found himself diving into an MLK accent, yikes.

Ron: This election is about 2025, we need to focus on the future of the country, don't you know I was in the military? We focus on the mission!

Pence: (It was **** RUDE of Fox News to not let Pence answer this segment first?) I did my job on January 6.

Ron: Is THIS what we focus on? We're gunna run biden ragged [woos]

Mod: Trump is beating you by 30 or 40 points, so it's a factor in the GOP primary. Gov. Hutchinson, you didn't raise your hand?

Asa: Trump has to be held accountable for January 6. [Booo] Without naming him, cites the legal argument of fmr judge J Michael Luttig, that the insurrection clause is self executing and Trump should be disqualified from running for office.

Christie: Mike. Pence. Stood. For the Constitution. He doesn't deserve grudging credit, he deserves our thanks for protecting and preserving the constitution and our democracy etc. Mike Pence deserves credit for telling Trump no.

Nikki: I do think Pence did the right thing and we need to give him credit, but -" zzz "I trust the american people, let them decide" we need a new generational conservative leader, we don't want a Trump Biden rematch, Trump is the MOST DISLIKED candidate in america (booooos) we cant win that way!

Burgum: China is the #1 threat and China loves it when we talk about the past

Pence: Can I say something on this issue?

Mod: we thought you were done? (gobsmacked, this is literal disrespect) Big dustup now where Vivek has injected himself into the conversation.

Pence: Its not about looking back at January 2021, it's about January 2017, I took my oath on Reagan's bible, so help me god, stump speech stump speech heavenly father, every person on this stage needs to do the same, prove they are owed the confidence of the american people. I wish it had not come to criminal proceedings and not solely by the people but nobody is above the law, and trump is still presumed innocent and we will extend that - the people NEED to know the POTUS asked me to put him over the constitution, and I chose the constitution, and I always will, I had no right to overturn the election, and Harris will have no right to overturn the 2024 election.

Mod: we're moving on to other issues.

Overheal

Ron: Europe must pull their weight on Ukraine, Europe is currently not doing that. China! Do what we need to do with China.

Vivek: funding to ukraine is "disastrous" literal Not My Back Yard argument. China! Pope Zelensky! South Side Chicago! Americans First! How many slogans can this guy shove in after blasting others about sloganeering.

Christie: I went and saw Ukraine for myself. Imagine if this auditorium was filled, 25,000 more children would still be outside dead or missing or kidnapped. Graphic recaps of **** these audiences need to hear. 'This is the Vladimir Putin who Trump called brilliant and a genius. We need to stand up against autocratic killing or we will be next.'

Pence: The Reagan doctrine endorsement. Vivek if we give Putin his land there's only a matter of time before he rolls across a NATO border.

Vivek: I have a news flash, the soviet union doesn't exist anymore! (another slogan). Putin is not a communist!

Pence: Putin wants to restore the soviet sphere of influence, Im sorrrrrrry I called him a communist, he is a murder and a dictator.

Vivek constantly jumping into this, really trying to be a Trump lite on the debate stage.

Pence: we achieve peace through strength and the US needs to stand for freedom.

Mods give Vivek 30 seconds after admonishing opponents for ignoring the bell. Crowd boos the action to give him 30 seconds lolol

God damn, Vivek is getting pistol-whipped here.

Someone take the poor boy off stage.

Overheal

Vivek is clearly trying to emulate the debate strategy of Donald Trump in 2016 but it's simply not working for him, he doesn't have the pre-primed Apprentice acclaim, and everything against him with his calls to defund Israel and hand over Crimea to Vladimir Putin. He plays right into the hands of Nikki Haley and Pence as Vivek repeatedly dies easily proven allegations about his record.

Ron Desantis: I will send troops to the southern border not to ukraine (someone hasn't read the posse comitatus act and/or he's selling his voters lies)

ghostfacekilla

Haley strongest on foreign policy

Overheal

Tim Scott: Fire the IRS and hire double the amount of Border Agents (with nobody to collect revenue to pay them with, capital idea old bean), cites Biden catching 200 most wanteds at the border like that's a bad thing, or evidence of non-enforcement. "As POTUS I will make that border wall... complete!" lol

The debate is breaking down as the Mods fails to give each candidate time to answer the same exact question, he rephrases things for Asa and Pence.

Asa: During the Bush admin we worked with the Mexican govt, their leaders were captured or killed. We need to have Mexico as a partner. The current administration in Mexico is not helpful we must use economic pressure. The military has to be limited in it's use. After 9/11 [ding ding] we protected the nation and the border at the same time, you can do both.

Q: Would you support military going into Mexico, Desantis?

A: Yes on day one! (Yay, a day one invasion pledge?) We have to re-establish the rule of law (say what again) Prepared Angel Mom Speech.exe about fentanyl death. (Lays the blame on mexicans but most stats show americans smuggle fentanyl).

Pence: Joe Biden threw open the southern border (false, up until recently the title 42 plan was still in place for 2 years under biden) We worked with mexico on the stay in mexico policy (title 42), as POTUS I will engage mexico the same way and partner with the mexican military to hunt down and destroy the cartel.

Christie: we stop more from coming, and then, we have to have law and order in this country. Ensure people who come here illegally are not rewarded for being here illegally (DREAMers much though?) We have to have illegals detained, on the fentanyl issue, with China, they're sending the chemicals to the cartels to make the fentanyl. This is an act of war against our citizens.

Q: Would you send those people back?

Christie: of course, you have to.

ghostfacekilla

Pence and Haley gaining the most so far, Ramaswamy torpedoing his chance of being anything other than a crackpot VP

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121019442#Comment_121019442

Fox Commentators: Vivek is 'clearly the avatar for Trump' but he "overplayed his hand." lol

Once upon a time a former Republican governor from Arkansas would be the most deranged person on stage - tonight he's the most sensible.

Overheal

DeSantis: We need education not indoctrination (Uh WHAT) We eliminated CRT, we eliminated gender education, we teach them about the bill of rights and the constitution, we need to increase civic understanding while im busy taking your right to elect your DA away from you oh wait

Vivek: we have a 'crisis of achievement' kill the Dept of Edu, put the money (oh, we're still gonna spend the money, socialism/UBI alert) in parents hands. Make people pass a civics test! Nuclear Family! Women independence is wrong, they have to live with men!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121019449#Comment_121019449

He'll be back on 4Chan in no time.

Overheal

Burgum: education differs by state, the idea that teachers are indoctrinating is false. "Innovation not Regulation" Get rid of the department of education (ooh so innovative)

Nikki: Crazy woke things! Reading remediation, transparency in the classroom, school choice, vocational high school classes (you're gonna work on the assembly line, billy), groomer/trans panic whistle.

Q: Biden's age something something

Pence: we don't need a president whos too old or young but whose been there. I will shut down Dept of Education and promote school choice to every family in merica (again, denied by fox the right to talk on these topics yo, he injected it at the end)

Vivek: Trump Body Language.exe, attack biden.exe, it's quite remarkable how much he mimics trump, it's like a Scaramucci, remember Scaramucci? slogans slogans slogans, Reagan 1980 revolution, my identity as a man of color, etc.

Pence: But you had never voted before 2020? !!!

Asa: Every school in America must offer computer science so we can compete with china

Tim: be the model behavior we want others to follow... destroy the teachers unions. (lol)

Q: Should military service be voluntary, Ron DeSantis?

Ron: yeah, thank you for this softball to inject my stump about me having military experience, did I say this bit about focusing on the mission already? ****. Smile.exe

Q: Okay nobody else wants to wave their military record around so we're moving on... Chris Christite, About UFOs

Christie: I get the UFO question!? Audience roars laughing

Q: would you level with the american people?

Christie: Just because you're also from Jersey how dare you ask me the UFO question... the job of POTUS is to stand for truth and the american people, and be a role model for our children, whether it's UFOs or teachers unions, which I tore down, that's the biggest threat, not UFOs.

ghostfacekilla

Christie turned the UFO low block around pretty well. The hosts obviously were keen for him not to gain ground. Hannity on record saying he won't give Christie any airtime in the Spin Room.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121019444#Comment_121019444

She tucked tail and ran at the first sign of an alert journalist.

https://www.businessinsider.com/nikki-haley-resign-investigation-flights-free-private-jets-2018-10

She's overplaying her UN ambassador cred.