Ron DeSantis is "Corrupt as Hell" -- because "Why Not"

Overheal

"I think Zuckerbucks is corrupt as hell, but if it's legal and the Democrats are doing it, why aren't we doing it?"

This actually happened apprently during a Charlie Kirk interview in January of this year but because Ron is such a pissant this is the first I am hearing of it via @politvidchannel on r/WhitePeopleTwitter and it was swept up I guess in the contemporary topics of ballot harvesting and zuckerbucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-8jFcQ7spA

https://www.rawstory.com/ron-desantis-early-voting/

But just by itself, I've been reading about this guy for years, since he ran for Governor at least, and even the force feeding of prisoners allegations (that's a whole other thing) and the Disney/DeSantis 'war' he is waging on some **** "political battlefield" according to his memoir -- but I have never heard a more poignant, single soundbyte from Ron DeSantis, stated or in writing, that so epically sums up, pretty much but not everything the shyte is. Just a race to the bottom thinker with no mind for any higher calling or integrity.

He might have no chance against the Donald in the primary (TBDizzles) but given the sheer **** hubris and corrupt tendencies of DeSantis, and the fact that he has at least a parting shot at becoming the World's **** American Problem, I think it's time to give him his own tab. And I for one... I think he's a c6nt. Please discuss.

DeSantis is a breath of fresh air.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120548702#Comment_120548702

In what regard?

HalloweenJack

He first appeared on my radar when he was only letting Fox in to some law signing and was complaining about MSM.

The Don't Say Gay law is a concern and its further expansion even more so.

He appears to be very thin-skinned on the basis of his war against Disney but he had to eat some humble pie when there was a hurricane and he needed federal funding.

He seems to be posturing as Trump but I fear he might be somewhat smarter. He doesn't seem as bombastic and as much of a firebrand (from what I've seen) yet he trots out a lot of the same tropes. I don't know why he doesn't seem to be getting as much traction on a national level, maybe that'll change when Trump's no longer around.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120549051#Comment_120549051

He may be smarter but he's got Trump's thin skin which will ultimately be his undoing if Trump himself doesn't destroy him first. It's great to see these venal serpents turn on each other.

Intellectually, it's all tumbleweeds upstairs for Ron.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120548743#Comment_120548743

.....maybe some are only use to breathing the sh1ttist air available.....

Boggles

The biggest scandal is his refusal to admit he has glaringly fake arms.

TagoMago

Think it's a bad move on DeSantis part to run in '24 against Trump. Trump's greatest skill is his ability to humiliate others, and considering DeSantis is a worthy opponent who seems to appeal quite a lot to the Republican base, Trump will aim to embarrass him as much as possible, as he certainly won't want it to get into a debate on politics. It will be very similar to Ted Cruz in 2016.

Saying that I strongly dislike DeSantis so am pretty happy it's happening.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120550349#Comment_120550349

Just asked you to expand on your statement he’s a “breath of fresh air”

Clearly you have no gumption to act in good faith. Evidently there is no real explanation behind the statement he is a “breath of fresh air”

Guess nobody should be voting for Ron then.

I.R.Y.E.D

https://twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/1504687870006620163?s=20

Fairly much describes the GOP especially the likes of desantis, trump and their supporters, along with a few other terms.

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120548702#Comment_120548702

What was your old username again? I'm losing track of people but I remember the avatar.

I.R.Y.E.D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552559#Comment_120552559

Eskimohunt according to some posters on other threads. Before my time but a seach does return results under that name with the same level of style including accusing Marcus Rashford of being like Jimmy Saville

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120550412#Comment_120550412

As I said on the trump thread. If rds was a smart man, he'd let trump take the run at 24, knowing that he'd have a clear rum at 28. If he's a smart man he'd let time (and the judicial system) take it's course on trump. But then, does a smart man call Disney corporation 'communist'?

Overheal

DeSantis poised to sign a bill that will allow the state of florida to legally abduct any children that are on puberty blockers etc.

https://newrepublic.com/post/172444/florida-passes-bill-allowing-trans-kids-taken-families

Not only 'cruelty is the point' etc. but poorly thought out - no 4D chess with this candidate, what stops a future administration from legally abducting kids who are taught or threatened with being taught Creationism etc. at home? This comes at a time DeSantis is trying to tout 'the rights of parents vs. the state' when it comes to the "woke agenda"

rossie1977

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120548702#Comment_120548702

Yes the world needs another far right pretend tough guy at the top in politics because that's what's been missing past few years...

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120553938#Comment_120553938

There's too much risk of someone else coming in and stealing his support base, politicians never really have the luxury of waiting till the next round, if they've a chance, they run and deal with the next election when it comes as well.

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120559915#Comment_120559915

In a normal world yes, but if he ran in this cycle his political career, or at least his hopes of the top job, may not last trump's attacks. I doubt lil Marco or Ted 'zodiac' Cruz would ever run again

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120560178#Comment_120560178

His other problem is he's very 1 note, the world is already moving on from (or already has) from a bunch of awful people clucking "woke, woke, woke" all the time, it's now or never for him (and likely never).

Overheal

Nimrata "Nikki" Haley slams Ron DeSantis for ineptly feuding with Disney will accepting their campaign contributions to at least the tune of $50K.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/haley-rips-desantis-for-having-thin-skin-in-disney-battle-notes-he-took-50k-in-political-donations-from-the-company/

She has her own credibility issues, but it is fun to watch these Republican pretenders eat themselves whole.

Overheal

Ron: 'hey maybe we will put a prison there to own the libs lol'

Bob: 'Hey maybe we will take our $17Bn investment and **** off somewhere else to own Ron lol'

https://www.mediaite.com/news/listen-disney-ceo-bob-iger-blasts-desantis-for-false-narrative-issues-not-so-veiled-threat-to-rethink-plans-to-invest-17-billion-in-florida/

Overheal

Picking a fight with the jewish community now as Holocaust schoolbooks get targeted as “woke”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/florida-rejects-holocaust-textbooks-for-falling-afoul-of-woke-education-ban/

A hugely important voting block in florida.

https://www.jpost.com/us-elections/florida-where-the-jewish-vote-for-president-really-counts-647680

”then they came for the Jews and there was no one left to speak for me” how ironic

AllForIt

This is brilliant from DeSantis. "We are going to treat people as individuals, not as members of groups". "DEI really means Discrimination Exclusion and Indoctrination".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/05/15/desantis-defunds-dei-programs-florida-colleges/

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120603050#Comment_120603050

Brilliant at what

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/charlamagne-blasts-desantis-defunding-inclusivity-programs-at-florida-colleges-obviously-hes-a-white-supremacist/

ancapailldorcha

Let me guess. DeSantis allegedly wants to treat people as individuals but then spouts loads of typical white supremacist drivel about "the left" and "woke".

Is this all it takes to impress people now? A few pejorative terms about wokeness (which is never defined) and that's it?

Overheal

Responding to attacks from Trump, Ron thought he'd try to say he was proud of the dog catching the car

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/desantis-fires-back-after-trumps-attack-on-harsh-abortion-ban-i-was-proud-to-do-it-he-wont-answer-whether-hed-sign-it/

Unfortunately for him it was already remarked in the media that the signing of the bill was done in the dead of night, and the very next morning when doing a graduation speech for a room full of horny young college Republicans he purposefully failed to mention what he had just done less than 12 hours ago (banning abortions), he was so proud of it.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ron-desantis-abortion-liberty-university_n_64396bb4e4b0ac40918ae43c

Oh, and another disturbing/red flag line from DeSantis in that article too, apropos to the thread title:

“My view is very simple. I may have earned 50% of the vote, but that entitled to me to wield 100% of the executive power,” DeSantis said.

Props to him confidently using executive power in such a way that won't be sure to disaffect him from swaths of his own voters and rile up the opposing base in the next election. It will be interesting to see, based on the above, how Ron would wield executive power against his next opponent, whomever that may yet be.

I.R.Y.E.D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120604147#Comment_120604147

There is a tweet that explains the type of people who going on and on about woke as a pejorative that applies.

Overheal

DeSantis has hereby jeopardized a planned $1Bn investment in the state. It reportedly would have held offices for 2,000 employees with an average salary of $120,000/yr ($240M annual payroll).

https://www.mediaite.com/news/disney-ceo-wasnt-bluffing-robert-iger-cancels-plans-for-1-billion-office-complex-in-orlando/

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120604147#Comment_120604147

Woke means far-left nonsense, advocated by a minority of loud activists who want to force that nonsense on everyone else. Next door, After Hours has almost 400 pages on the latest rubbish that the Woke agenda is trying to force on normal people.

And Ron DeSantis is absolutely right to fight against this abject nonsense.

The funny thing is that the greatest advocates of Woke now pretend that they don't know what the term means, when they were fully behind the term to begin with. That's pretty convenient, isn't it?

Then again, if I initially backed the Woke agenda, I'd probably be embarrassed too by the whole charade the movement has since become.

An absolute and total embarrassment.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614410#Comment_120614410

It is common knowledge what term actually means. As you've clearly demonstrated and proven the core of my argument over however is the fact that you clearly don't understand what the term means and as suspected, have been using it incorrectly to advance your own political agenda.

https://www.fox13news.com/news/what-does-woke-mean-gov-desantis-officials-answer-during-andrew-warren-trial

https://www.okayplayer.com/news/ron-desantis-woke-defintion.html

Clearly though you are a hand in glove supporter for Ron DeSantis, as you've essentially stated in your post.

We'll just know in the future when you say "woke" you really mean "anything I am far too lazy to define properly"

kaftan

The term "woke" has lost all meaning, it has morphed from a credible and valid term within the African American community, to being coopted mainly by middle class white progressives, to now a term of abuse from the right. In short it has become a nonsense word.

As always, an example to highlight the situation we now find ourselves in. Some California high schools are now cutting honors classes to promote racial equity. The argument is that certain ethnic groups are less represented in honors classes, so the answer is to eliminate honors classes for all. Instead of trying to help a minority of children, let's hurt all of them. In a country which spends far more per capita on public education, yet now ranks outside the top 10 in science and math globally, with China, India and other Asian countries occupying half of the top 10.

If you examine the issue a little closer, it is minorities in the US that benefit most from honors classes. Asian Americans do significenly better than all others demographics in terms of academic performance, including college placement. This is particularly true in STEM subjects where Indian Americans, Chinese Americans, Filipino Americans, etc. outperform everyone else.

We live in a competitive world where increasingly graduates, especially with the evolution of AI, will be going head to head against their equivalents from Asia and elsewhere. Does it really make sense to put obstacles to success in the way of children?

DeSantisis is broadly right on these issues, while wrong on other issues.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614967#Comment_120614967

That's exactly the kind of social and cultural ridiculousness that DeSantis is talking about, and fighting against.

But unfortunately the age-old nonsense of, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", means that many people will support this nonsense because, for them, if DeSantis is against it, then they feel obliged and mandated to support it. It's like they are totally unwilling to admit that DeSantis may be right about something, so they go all-in on the nonsense side of things instead.

Which, when you think about it, is pretty pathetic.

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120615850#Comment_120615850

What is woke? Just so we know what you define it as so we're all singing off the same hymn sheet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120615862#Comment_120615862

I already answered that.

Moreover, other users have already given concrete examples of same.

HalloweenJack

"Far left nonsense" is an equally vague and subjective term.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120616492#Comment_120616492

Exactly. The people who spend disturbing amounts of time ranting and wailing about "woke" can't even define it. I know of one poster who's openly defined "far left" as anything that isn't far right.

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120616255#Comment_120616255

There's absolutely no description in that post that defines exactly what woke is. Can you define in your own words what it is pro and anti please?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120616838#Comment_120616838

For sure, because I know this line of "Woke doesn't exist, because well, define it..." is pretty popular these days, but we all know what it refers to.

Here is a small sample of examples:

• cancel culture
• race-baiting
• supporting BLM, even as they burn cities to the ground and ask for police departments to be defunded
• affirmative action / gender quotas
• comedians afraid to say certain jokes for fear of "causing offense"; when they do, they're labelled "hateful"
• so-called 'hate speech' legislation that seeks to stifle free speech and/or expression / create climate of chilling effect in language
• social media shadow banning of right-wing / conservative voices
• demanding biological males enter women's sport
• the medical scandal of forcing children to take puberty blockers / what transpired at the now-closed Tavistock and Mermaids clinics
• lesbians told they are "sexual racists" by Stonewall if they reject a biological male
• safe spaces
• trigger warnings
• taking the knee social pressure
• critical race theory
• intersectionality / identity politics, pitting group against group
• laws that force people to use invented pronouns / C-16 law in Canada
• demanding reparations of people today based on some historic event hundreds of years ago that has nothing to do with those people
• pronoun badges at work / people at meetings asked to say their pronouns before the meeting starts
• demands for Pride jerseys / logo to be worn absolutely everywhere
• virtue signalling
• editing old books to remove any words that some people may find "offensive"
• companies that sell male products, like shaving gel, trying to de-masculinise men in advertisements (see Gillette); and promoting the phrase "toxic masculinity"
• categorising anyone who questions any of the above as "hateful", "bigoted" or some other word ending in -ism or -phobic.

And when Ron DeSantis talks about combating "Woke ideology", he is largely referring to this kind of phenomena that has swept the Western world in the last 5-8 years in particular.

A regressive, awful ideology.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120617090#Comment_120617090

Hilariously many of the examples you raised are “Wokisms” adopted by Ron DeSantis, like cancel culture and stifling speech. Hell most of his efforts can be boiled down to trying to make Florida a safe space for his echo chamber of ideals. But we expected this from Mr Breath of Fresh Air, EskimoDash

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120617150#Comment_120617150

If you are framing Ron DeSantis as a man of the left, then that's your position to defend.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120617162#Comment_120617162

I’m defining him as incredibly woke based on your own insane (and constantly changing) definition for same.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120617165#Comment_120617165

All I know is that DeSantis opposes and continues to fight against the kind of insane nonsense that's been going on in the United States, and which is spilling over into other Western countries.

More power to him as far as I'm concerned.

Too many politicians are too supine to call it out due to the predictable backlash.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120617179#Comment_120617179

Yeah, sounds like you know much ado of nothing. Hilarious of you to include "intersectionality / identity politics, pitting group against group" for example, even when that is exactly what is going on here, labeling everything that minimally annoys you as "the far left" and labeling everyone and everything around you as "woke" in identity.

Yeah Ron's 'not a virtue signaler,' lmao

https://deadline.com/2022/08/desantis-top-gun-maverick-ad-1235098536/

So woke, amiright.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120617193#Comment_120617193

Far-left extremism isn't an identity, it's an ideology.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120617216#Comment_120617216

You seemingly give that label to nearly everyone you meet on here though? So clearly you identify them/us all that way, so clearly it's an identity. QED.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120617226#Comment_120617226

It's a political label, not an identity.

Ideologies do have names, I really can't make it more basic than that.

I was asked to describe what Woke meant. I've done that, and it's what Ron DeSantis is largely fighting against in the United States.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120617240#Comment_120617240

Well, you certainly did you best, that's all anyone can ask for.

If all his supporters are as good as you at this then there's nothing really to worry about.

kowloon

When a child acts the **** the other kids won't play with them. How is that different to "cancel culture"? There has always been repercussions for doing or saying things that other people don't like. It's not anything new, it's just people being arseholes and not liking the results.

ancapailldorcha

There's no such thing as cancel culture. It's a meaningless term of abuse from the right who object to the questioning of their fascistic agenda.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552701#Comment_120552701

We had an Eskimohunt and an Eskimohunt 2.0

Presumably the 2.0 was in reference to his second account rather than any improvement in the quality of contributions.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120617299#Comment_120617299

But it does exist.

This is just gaslighting the victims of cancel culture by saying it doesn't exist and it's all in their heads; an insult to injury.

Andrew Doyle dealt with this point quite well I thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTHqGkKvT2s

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614410#Comment_120614410

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/most-poll-view-woke-positive-205541068.html

WOKE agenda will not win Trump nor DeSanctimonious the presidency.