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Convective/Thunderstorm Discussion - Spring 2023

  • 16-03-2023 12:13pm
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    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    A new thread for Spring as there is a chance a few thunderstorms today and tomorrow.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Feeling very humid and mild here in Tralee, recent heavy shower, Convective look to the sky . Bit of CAPE in the afternoon when some heating gets going. We will see if there are any sparks , perhaps the Midlands, towards the NE ?


    



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Good to see Convective Weather back in action, here's to a good season ⚡️⚡️⚡️





  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    A fair bit of activity, looks like it was warmer than forecast .






  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,989 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Some cape index showing on Windys Arome and Ukv charts for lunchtime tomorrow around wexford



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Longwave upper trough from midweek to around Friday bringing much colder upper air temperatures , low level Lp systems and various fronts and troughs will aid instability with low level shear in abundance ( quite blustery along coastal areas at times ) and decent deep level shear giving some heavy showers and possibility of hail and maybe sleety showers on higher ground. Probably feeling quite cool this week especially with the breezy conditions. Will be watching to see if any thunderstorms form, lapse rates are good but heating is only very fair so pulse like storms if they are possible to form would think. Quite isolated in nature. Rainfall totals steadily building as the week goes on especially along Atlantic coastal counties.

    Peak time for thunderstorm potential in the afternoons during peak diurnal heating especially if we get some sunny spells to aid lift.

    Something to observe anyway in these quiet weather times.











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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58



    Cluster of strikes in Donegal this morning, will see what develops today.




  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Strikes approaching the SW coast too.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,904 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Showery morning here in Tralee with sunny spells, very heavy shower atm, couldn't leave the building so heavy, I see more sferics showing up off Kerry coast.







  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Record so far.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,296 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Lightning west of Tralee



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,989 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Off the coast of west waterford



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Big heavy showers going through here in Tralee,




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,741 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Its got extremely dark here and wet in Oranmore, Galway.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Big blustery showers here today in Tralee that died out early evening. A thunderstorm ran up along the coast and across N Kerry into Clare in the afternoon but it was a fairly weak affair. Cloud to cloud lightning showed up nearest to me near the coast and the lads at home heard the thunder for a while.

    Tomorrow looks more active across the country.








  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    A chance of thunderstorms across Ireland tomorrow I reckon although quite isolated in nature, possibly peaking in the afternoon in the N midlands , N Leinster NE kind of direction . Big heavy showers again tomorrow with a chance of hail. Decent lapse rates , modest temperatures, ok shear, bit marginal but should produce a few sparks in the showery unstable bands crossing form SW/W to NE on a brisk flow.








  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭Duvet Day


    I think I saw a big flash of lightning west of Cork city about 5 mins ago but the sky seems clear overhead, anything showing up?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,296 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Some big showers out to your west alright with recent strikes near Bantry



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭Duvet Day


    Thank you, wasn't expecting it, surprised there aren't more posts, it lit up the whole place.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,904 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Nothing here in Cork CC...

    Some big sferics in Kerry/ W Cork though, any reports?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 319 ✭✭almostthere12


    Distant rumbles to be heard from west of Cork city around an hour ago, nothing since.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,904 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Mini tornado in Cork city last night!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,296 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,296 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Debris of buildings etc .mind you looks a fairly run down area in any case




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58



    Reports now that the wind or tornadic event that caused some damage in Cork was just before 01.00. Some footage caught on CCTV below. Made all the more dramatic as builders insulation was blown about but it did damage roofs and windows also and reports of cracked ceilings. Don't know if it was a downdraught as it was quite localized. No Lightning sferics showed up for that time but can see the cell was active and showed fairly cold cloud tops. Sferics did show up earlier out around Bantry. Good bit of Shear available at the time.

    There was fairly stiff winds in Cork around that time but these winds would have been a lot stronger.










  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,296 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Some recent lightning up near Cavan town



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Bit of interest with some decent enough parameters for heavy convective showers and thunderstorm activity possible on Weds as a warm moist mass and possible troughs with a high Theta E reading moves up over the country, peak diurnal heating looks up around 16C or maybe 17C in the afternoon. Some decent MUCAPE readings. Looks relatively mild and humid.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,296 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Some heavy,possibly thundery showers tomorrow afternoon




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Can see where activity could peak in the afternoon from the Midlands to the NE, will see if there is enough juice to power up a few storms.





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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Not a lot of activity in the end, some very heavy blustery showers. Kerry cleared up to good sunny spells in the afternoon, blustery with occasional quick moving showers. Nice to see those Spring temperatures starting to rise.





  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Instability on Monday giving rise to widespread convective showers , some of hail perhaps and thunderstorms a possibility.

    Upper trough with very cold uppers, cool enough day probably only getting up around 10 or 12C, showery troughs passing over the country, sunny spells also aiding convection.








  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Unstable airmass following the front overnight into tomorrow producing heavy convective and at times squally showers with some of hail and parameters there for a spread of isolated thunderstorms. Quite a fresh day with quick moving showers. Sunny spells but on the cool side especially away from southern and eastern coasts, quite a cold feeling day along the Atlantic seaboard counties. Thunderstorm activity might peak in the Eastern half of the country tomorrow afternoon but anywhere could get a storm I think.










  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Convection growing and moving across the country , a few strikes earlier North of Tipperary.

    Heavy showers here in Kerry overnight and a few early this morning, good bright spells now and breezy. 10.6C




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭robclay26


    Mammatus clouds over Delvin, Co Westmeath




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,989 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Very nice robclay



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭jc11


    Couple of distant rumbles lucan



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,248 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Rumbles of thunder here in Kildare after Heavy Hail



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭Trebor176


    Had four or five rumbles of thunder a few moments ago in Clondalkin followed by heavy rain/hail.

    It is brightening up again now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,738 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Finally some decent April showers, pics from Old Military Road in the Dublin Mountains and Tallaght.


    Photography site - https://sryanbruenphoto.com/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,989 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    No major Mammatus clouds here in Waterford. Two big thunderheads went over and dumped hail at Dunmore East




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,989 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Might be some lightning about. Meteologix registered in clare and Blitzortung has 2 in kerry east of Waterville and north west of sneem. both registered on Metwologix now



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Most of the lightning bypassed Ireland today.






  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    To me it would seem that there is subtle instability tomorrow from an upper rotating trough and cold upper pool moving in over the S and E of Ireland producing a level of vorticity along with light low level convergence zones and subtle differences in land and sea temperatures all giving rise to the chance of heavy convective showers' and the chance, if somewhat small, of isolated thunderstorms . Mountainous or hilly areas might aid lift and around Wicklow/ Dublin might be one such area but chances are on the Low side. Bit of interest nonetheless. Sometimes these slow moving systems can let big convection grow unheeded as in that they are given time to mature slowly without being knocked over by strong winds. No supercells but could get some nice tall convection.

    Met Eireann mentioning 'A fair amount of cloud tomorrow with the best of any sunny spells in the south of the country during the morning. Scattered outbreaks of showery rain over the northern half of the country will become widespread through the morning, turning heavy at times with the possibility of isolated thunderstorms leading to localised surface flooding'







  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,384 ✭✭✭highdef


    Plenty of areas of convergence being seen in several parts of the country today. I see on the met.ie site that there have been recent lightning strikes in the Irish Sea, SE of Dublin. Looking at the radar, there looks to be an area of fairly convective activity in south Dublin/North Wicklow despite some very low surface temperatures of about 6/7°



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,989 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Big black clouds building here in waterford. Glorious sun where it's clear.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,904 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Certainly looks very like a tornado, would be great to know the location and time, might be a waterspout if there is a lake , sea or reservoir behind the hill??


    Edit: I see on Cork Beo it was taken from the outskirts of Ballincollig .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,989 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    That's Templehill. It's looking north from near MP Crowley on the south side of Ballincollig. Carrigrohan road would be at the back of that hill.




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Well done , good investigative skills there spookwoman!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,989 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Lad on facebook posted a picture under Carlow weathers video and he says he took it at 1.10

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=6205065672921374&set=p.6205065672921374&type=3



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