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Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 6/3/23*



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,789 ✭✭✭✭ Strazdas

    I totally agree on the need to rapidly speed up the entire asylum procedure and appeals process. There's no way it should be taking years to assess an asylum claim and to decide whether that claim is valid or not.

    But to my knowledge, no country in Europe has the right to refuse to accept genuine refugees at its borders (in our case Dublin Airport or Rosslare Port or whatever) and deport them back out of the country on the next flight without even allowing them to make a claim for asylum. That would breach every international refugee law going. Also, the European countries at the other end of this process would quickly become very angry with us if we adopted such a policy.

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,348 ✭✭✭✭ whisky_galore

    We ignored the EU's shouts for tax breaks for multinationals to end for years, and I dont think we got spanked.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,839 ✭✭✭ herdquitter

    To me this looks like an image of the effect of low rainfall on the land.

  • Registered Users Posts: 36,035 ✭✭✭✭ Boggles

    Interesting phrase, please don't try and attribute it to me though. You can own that one.

    His daughters are adopted, that is wife in the picture.

    Anyway, the point is he is not the sort of leader our own permanent malcontents would aspire to, and as you point out many of them would probably stew in their own hate at his family dynamic.

  • Registered Users Posts: 69,863 ✭✭✭✭ Overheal

    What rainfall, what clouds? This is urbanization in both countries.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭ Hamachi

    There’s something really ‘off’ about sniffing around that man’s personal life and then posting images of his family in this thread.

    What’s even more bizarre is then ascribing presumed attitudes to his family dynamic, to a bunch of strangers on the internet, whose own family situations are entirely opaque to you..

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,020 ✭✭✭ Patrick2010

    The Lisbon treaty we signed up to gave us that right to refuse entry unless someone can quote otherwise. Surely we weren’t lied to when voting?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,839 ✭✭✭ herdquitter

    The large colour differences are showing that the UK experienced more "drought" conditions on cropland and cut grassland which hasn't has sufficient moisture to recover it's green colour.

    The source thread picture caption and discussion don't support the urbanisation argument.

  • Registered Users Posts: 69,863 ✭✭✭✭ Overheal

    It doesn't really have to. We learned how to read maps and aerial photography in school.

    Notice a correlation?

    No drought in the UK either. This photo from NASA we are discussing was from this week.

    The UK saw 159.8mm of rain, which is 30% more than average. In more granular detail, England saw 133.9mm (45% more than average), Wales 199.6mm (23% more than average), Scotland 199.6mm (21% more than average) and Northern Ireland 118.7mm (3% less than average).Dec 1, 2022

    Ireland also didn't experience drought this winter.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,839 ✭✭✭ herdquitter

    The correlation is in your head.

    The thread is from six days ago, not the photograph.

  • Registered Users Posts: 69,863 ✭✭✭✭ Overheal

    No, the image is literally from this week, as I said in the post you originally replied to. When did you think it was taken?

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,520 ✭✭✭✭ Spanish Eyes

    Our President might open his Phoenix Park borders soon so....

    The threats posed by climate change will raise questions about the future use of national borders to block migration, President Michael D Higgins has said.

    Mr Higgins said ”the nature of the climate effect is such that it isn’t viable to be talking about borders and migratory measures in the way we did before”.

  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭ Kurooi

    I'd disagree with a no-refugee policy. But I would say we need to tighten what a refugee is.

  • Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭ Slightly Kwackers


    People fleeing for their lives?

    I suppose I am a migrant having bought my Irish passport after Brexit.

    One of the nicest things about leavig England was saying goodbye to the blind hate and bigotry that was the driving force for Brexit.

    The "them and us" attitude is just spawning violence now and the latest disgusting scandal is the "losing" of child refugees by the home office.

    The attitude being, they should have stayed home.

    If you want a self centered society where everyone looks after number one, you are welcome to it.

    No one rejected my Irish ancestors and more recent relatives when they hit hard times here, what on earth is wrong with giving migrants a hearing?

    Some of the migrants that went to England turned out to be rotten eggs and still are, but they have been welcomed into the Tory party and are totally happy being as bad as any National Front member you are likely to meet.

    What's driving the xenophobia here, in Britain it's the Tory gutter press, but I get the impression that the English tabloid garbage doesn't do so well in Ireland.

    Brits used to moan about housing and services before Brexit, then after Brexit their Polish builders and care workers went home. Not refugees I know, but the reality is that the ones that complain don't know or care about the differences between refugees, migrant workers and asylum seekers.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭ Slightly Kwackers

    The tax take has gone down. In Britain it was the same. There was a fear that in a high taxation economy the brightest and best would migrate.

    Sadly not enough went. We had plenty of Engineers and Medical staff who were happy to stay and you had enough to live comfortably on even if the so called luxuries needed to be saved for.

    There isn't an easy answer, but surviving in a society based on greed and keeping everything for Oneself is not to my mind a very good progression.

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,789 ✭✭✭✭ Strazdas

    How can the Irish housing crisis be caused by refugees or asylum seekers? The overwhelming number of asylum seekers are living in direct provision centres, temporary group accommodation in large buildings, hotels, army barracks etc. None of this has any impact on the availability of houses and apartments in the State.

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,789 ✭✭✭✭ Strazdas

    For sure, but experts said this week in a report that Ireland will need to build 60,000 houses a year for the next 25-30 years, starting right now. That would strongly indicate that demand for housing is coming not from refugees or asylum seekers, but from the domestic Irish population. Refugee demand for housing would represent only a very small fraction of those numbers.

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