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What’s your most controversial opinion? **Read OP** **Mod Note in Post #3372**

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭growleaves


    The DMP are disliked by socialists still for their part in drunkenly baton-charging striking transport union members in the 1913 lockout. 2 deaths iirc.

    This was specifically mentioned by PBP and others.

    Lots of pre-independence British-Irish institutions had poor reputations. For instance Dublin Corporation was considered very corrupt around the early 1900s.

    Many modern Irish people have been fed a diet of waffle about so-called 'British efficiency' and revisionism all their lives, so they don't realise that post-1922 institutions were in some cases a huge improvement over against what they were replacing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,855 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Umm yeah like the new govt and National Army managed to Out-Tan 'the Tans' in terms of prisoners executed... an improvement I guess...

    The new state was expert at forgetting and re-writing history.

    Post edited by whisky_galore on


  • Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭GavPJ


    I do the same. Hate whatsapp calls and voice messages.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    If they weren’t stupid, they wouldn’t be under the thumb, and if 99% of men in relationships are under the thumb, well… 😬



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,572 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    I never said stupid once , I said they are more likely to agree to go meet friends before thinking it through, not once did i use the word stupid ,



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  • Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭TipsyMcStagge




  • Registered Users Posts: 15,855 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Surrogacy is basically rich couples buying babies from poorer women, but given an air of respectability.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think some elderly people who are still in relatively good physical shape and perfectly lucid play the "I'm old and helpless" card out of sheer laziness and entitlement. They're old but they're also grown-ass men/women. Makes me think of that bit in The Simpsons when Abe barges into the welfare office shouting "I'm old - gimme gimme gimme!"

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  • Registered Users Posts: 571 ✭✭✭orourkeda1


    I'm beginning to wonder just how many lies we are being told in relation to the war in Ukraine.

    The old saying is that the first casualty of war is the truth. I believe that this is particularly. I don;t know what it is or how it is being done but there is a lot of propaganda being spread from both sides.

    https://www.orourkeda.blog



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,926 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    absolutely, there'd be no truth in war! very difficult to find good sources also....



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    It's not controversial, but anyone who agrees with the invasion of Ukraine is just trying to be edgy/is a lemming who feels they have to pretend in order not to look "woke". Pure brainless.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,926 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78




  • Registered Users Posts: 20,411 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I believe the Russian people are being fed mistruths.

    I mean Putin invades Ukraine because he's crazy isn't complicated. What conspiracy do you think we aren't being told.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,926 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ....we re all being bullsh1tted by this one.... 'joys' of war!



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There's no ignorance. Everyone knows what invasion means. It's just a rightwing fashion to pretend to agree with it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,515 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    Full of natural resources and productive land. Good ports and the fact that he thought he could get away with it.

    Pandemic proves that Governments will just spend their way out of problems. Putin miscalculated and thought he had Europe over a barrel with his cheap gas. ‘Keep your gas, we’ve modelled this already, it’ll take a few years but we’ll be fine, you won’t. Oh, and we’re taking KFC and McDonalds too’

    The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    I don;t know what it is or how it is being done but there is a lot of propaganda being spread from both sides.


    It appears to be primarily being spread by social media, predicated upon exploiting people’s ignorance, and by that I mean lack of knowledge, and the filling in of the gaps in that knowledge with information intended to mislead and gain support for their cause from people who already wanted to believe it based upon their previous knowledge (or indeed lack thereof).

    It’s the ordinary people on all sides (because there’s more involved than just Ukraine/Russia), that I feel any kind of sympathy for, as opposed to the administration governing those countries. I can totally understand why people are keen to support Ukraine against Russia, because Russia have always been portrayed as enemies of the West, enemy of my enemies kinda thing going on there, but for me it doesn’t take from the fact that Ukraine has numerous issues which is why, while I’m not happy to see them being invaded, I’m not going to lose sleep over it if Russia had been successful either.

    Obviously Russia have made a complete balls of their initial attempt at invasion, which means the war will drag on for decades.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,411 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Micky D is an awful mutt.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,541 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    No, there isn't. People spouting Putinist drivel should try a different tactic.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,855 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Both sides use propaganda, that is the nature of war and promoting your own side, it's just Ukraine are far better and less inept than Russia at it.

    The mask slipped slightly when that missile landed in Poland recently.

    Neither side is going to completely show it's own hand, some things have to remain secret or played up/downplayed for strategic reasons.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Oh there are lies, mistruths and misdirections all over the place in that shítshow. Sides taken too of course. Not so long ago when the vast majority of newly minted experts couldn't place Ukraine on a map to save their lives, the Right on were getting into a tizzy about their fave boogyman the Far Right on the rise in same. The BBC and the Guardian in the UK were warning us of this existential threat. The US State Dept ditto. Today it's Slava Ukraine!!, "nazis" forgiven even Azov being lauded by the same eejits and flags in bios. Russia,; well being the biggest nation empire on earth only Stevie Wonder would have difficultly pointing to that on a map. They were "our friends now", wierd friends, but y'know, with icy blondes, 'Murican Right wingers idolising their little Czar on his pony an' that.

    But forget sides and politics and bullshít. All those tens of thousands of people, men, women and kids dead or injured, many thousands more to die and be crippled Ukrainians and Russians. All those millions displaced. All those towns and cities wiped from the maps. All those who are going to die and are dying right now as we speak in ditches and homes, Ukrainian and Russian. Would any of that have happened If putin hadn't invaded? That's the only relevant question and there's a really simple answer to that and it's No. That's the only certainty and only a deluded moron could deny it.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,411 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    If the TV Licence is for public service broadcasting then every household should pay it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 571 ✭✭✭orourkeda1


    It's not a conspiracy as such. It's just that I believe that we are being fed mistruths as well. As are the russian population.

    https://www.orourkeda.blog



  • Registered Users Posts: 571 ✭✭✭orourkeda1


    https://www.orourkeda.blog



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭Jack Daw



    All sides involved in war use propaganda and to pretend otherwise is idiotic.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Swaine


    If I ain't using it, I ain't paying. Maybe pay a bit extra if you want it so bad.

    Let RTE die, no one cares.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,367 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    G, the gravitational constant, is not a constant.

    Instead it is mass-dependent.

    This explains a lot about the universe. There is no longer any missing mass. Stars are not nuclear furnaces, they are large solid objects that attract clouds of electrons. Planets larger than earth like Jupiter, Saturn etc, are not gas giants but have large solid interiors and relatively small cloud layers (although larger than ours).

    Objects smaller than earth have less mass than conventional astronomy postulates. Mars is a water world with a thin crust. Every time it gets it by a large asteroid, the water ejects out, stays liquid for a few hours, and carves out canyons. The idea that Mars was once capable of sustaining a warm atmosphere with rainfall is absurd. It never happened.

    The Moon is hollow. It used to be an ice world like Europa (a moon of Jupiter) but the ice gradually sublimated out through fissures.

    There are not two different forces, electro-magnetic and gravitational, just one. The gradual reduction in the binding force of larger atoms exactly matches the curve implied by uniting the two forces. The value of G keeps increasing with smaller mass (so that the multiplication of G x mass looks like the constant G result, except that mass keeps decreasing so G must keep increasing -- this is why conventional physics says that the electro-magnetic force is much stronger than the gravitational force).

    People say well the gravitational constant has been proven to exist in laboratories. True, in laboratories carefully shielded from magnetism, which is basically the intermediate signature of the one variable G factor at the compound substance level.

    This will eventually be proven by somebody better connected to the scientific world and will solve all the mysteries I outlined above.

    Gravity is really no mystery at all. It is simply the net product of particles moving around through space bouncing off solid objects. Gravitational force is very often highly correlated with the product of albedo and surface area.

    However, this could still be just my second most controversial theory. More controversial might be the speculation that God does not yet exist. This explains the cruelty of the world ("if there was a just God, why would He not ...") -- well He cannot because He does not yet exist. When he comes into existence, the only things He will be able to do in his past will be the things He did in his past. Otherwise, He won't be able to do such things as ban Hitler, stop Putin, make your life better, etc. After He comes into existence though, all bets are off.

    Ask yourself this. If God existed from some point in time before now, let's say before the dawn of human history, then where did He come from? Why would there be a universe with no God, no human race or any other intelligent life forms, yet there was God? Does it not make more sense that God would evolve out of intelligent life forms? Maybe not homo sapiens, maybe some other planetary species. I don't have any idea who, where, when, etc. If God is a future human being, then it would likely be generations into the future. When you think of the powers that God must possess (mastery of time travel, ability to control life and death, creation of huge astronomical sized entities) then you can see it wouldn't be some contemporary of ours about to unlock the mystery. I would guess 3000-4000 AD as the time frame, if human. If not human, then it removes some of the challenges for earthly history (God could have existed before human history) but it would just transfer the mystery to God's own world of origin (He would have been in their future at some point). Or else, God existed outside the universe and created it. Then it transfers all these questions to that other place, the alternate universe where God existed. You can't escape this mystery, no matter what belief structure you adopt.

    Back to the regular thread now ...



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,892 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    A public service broadcaster is a valuable asset for any country. So letting it die ? Not a wise or viable strategy. Plenty of people care.

    imagine during Covid and no RTE…. Imagine in years to come if say the Russians invaded…. You’d probably have Virgin cut back from announcing it, to topless darts live from Termonfeckin the way things are going there.

    look at that ‘competition’…Virgin Media… imagine we were just left with that ! They don’t even broadcast 24 hours a day. They are off air from using the current schedule …

    One 02.00-06.30

    Two 02.55-07.00

    Three 01.15-07.10

    Four 01.00-06.00

    More 01.55-12.55

    what is broadcast during the day is heavy on reality TV, cooking, and game shows… little variety or interesting or intelligent broadcasting. And between / across the four channels, over 24 hours of downtime between them every day.

    personally I’d slash the licence fee for private homes, increase it for businesses and make up any shortfall from increasing advertising charges…



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    RTE covid coverage was extreme scaremongering bordering on complete shiest. Russian invading? That's worse than most of other conspiracy theories out there.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,411 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I do pay and believe me it hurts. I watch the Six One occasionally, that's about it.

    If we accept that a public service broadcaster is necessary for debate,news,national programming and messaging then everyone should pay.



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