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What’s your most controversial opinion? **Read OP** **Mod Note in Post #3372**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,994 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Funny enough now you say that. I was just back from the country a family thing. Old aunt is a widow at this stage. But loves animals. Keeps the dogs until they literally drop.

    They have 8 of them in the farm. More dogs than people in her house. They have one little dog who who is about 17/18 deaf and with one eye. A few working dogs. Then they always end up keeping strays etc.

    But I would agree with ya there should be some better system. Grand people can love animals etc. But it can get silly.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    I think the Toy Show is cynical shite and that people who go to the airport before Christmas with ‘Welcome Home’ banners are just desperate to get on the news.

    Bah humbug.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,945 ✭✭✭growleaves


    I don't think they were ordinary. They were often shell-shocked and might have seen all their friends killed right in front of them in France or Belgium. Then they are sent to Ireland to 'police' it and start killing civilians and causing havoc.

    That is not normal even by the standards of colonial policing.

    Irish people aren't required to be 100% detached from our own history imo. We should take our own side, not just look at ourselves through a laboratory microscope.

    We ought to detached about Black nationalism and Ukrainian nationalism, which we are technically on the outside of.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,218 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    Apologies, could’ve typed that a bit more clearly, meant the RIC for generations were ordinary men. Black and Tans and Auxiliaries, totally agree, war ravaged and God knows what other problems.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    A fair proportion use "the woman" as a handy excuse to get out of things as well - "ah I'd love to head out but she has been at me all week" etc etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,935 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    To be fair id say the majority of blokes make on the spot decisions & there wife's talk a bit of sense into them an they agree,

    Like "ye sure i'll go for a rake of beer tonight why not " then there wife says but you have to do X , Y & Z tomorrow & you'll also use that cas h for X next week , Then when you say look i can't make it out your seen as under the thumb , If your Wife say no to you doing things with no good reasoning behind it you've married the wrong person ,

    But of course there are some exception i know one lad who can't go to get a hair cut without the missus saying she & the kids will go with him ,& for example if she goes to get her nails done he has to literally wait outside with the kids, Literally neither of them are allowed do anything on there own ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,588 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    So the men are all stupid and the women are the brains of the operation? like on all those tv and radio adverts, like the one where the husband is eating frozen peas?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,935 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    No but men tend to agree to doing things with the mates without thinking of the greater good ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    A lot of really stupid people ran out and bought dogs and helped create this monster.

    Have a good long look at yourselves 'dog lovers'.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,588 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    You are still saying men are stupid and do things without thinking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Most of the shouting and roaring were from folks whose only grounding in Irish history came from knowing The Wolfe Tones back catalogue.

    tbh the commemorations could have been handled and worded a bit more carefully, but the above sorts of people can't do nuance anyhow. Many of the them can't tell the difference between celebration/commemoration and DMP/RIC/BnT/Aux Div.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,945 ✭✭✭growleaves


    The DMP are disliked by socialists still for their part in drunkenly baton-charging striking transport union members in the 1913 lockout. 2 deaths iirc.

    This was specifically mentioned by PBP and others.

    Lots of pre-independence British-Irish institutions had poor reputations. For instance Dublin Corporation was considered very corrupt around the early 1900s.

    Many modern Irish people have been fed a diet of waffle about so-called 'British efficiency' and revisionism all their lives, so they don't realise that post-1922 institutions were in some cases a huge improvement over against what they were replacing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Umm yeah like the new govt and National Army managed to Out-Tan 'the Tans' in terms of prisoners executed... an improvement I guess...

    The new state was expert at forgetting and re-writing history.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭GavPJ


    I do the same. Hate whatsapp calls and voice messages.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,361 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    If they weren’t stupid, they wouldn’t be under the thumb, and if 99% of men in relationships are under the thumb, well… 😬



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,935 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    I never said stupid once , I said they are more likely to agree to go meet friends before thinking it through, not once did i use the word stupid ,



  • Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭TipsyMcStagge




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Surrogacy is basically rich couples buying babies from poorer women, but given an air of respectability.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think some elderly people who are still in relatively good physical shape and perfectly lucid play the "I'm old and helpless" card out of sheer laziness and entitlement. They're old but they're also grown-ass men/women. Makes me think of that bit in The Simpsons when Abe barges into the welfare office shouting "I'm old - gimme gimme gimme!"

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  • Registered Users Posts: 667 ✭✭✭orourkeda1


    I'm beginning to wonder just how many lies we are being told in relation to the war in Ukraine.

    The old saying is that the first casualty of war is the truth. I believe that this is particularly. I don;t know what it is or how it is being done but there is a lot of propaganda being spread from both sides.

    https://www.orourkeda.blog



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,220 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    absolutely, there'd be no truth in war! very difficult to find good sources also....



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's not controversial, but anyone who agrees with the invasion of Ukraine is just trying to be edgy/is a lemming who feels they have to pretend in order not to look "woke". Pure brainless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,220 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,479 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I believe the Russian people are being fed mistruths.

    I mean Putin invades Ukraine because he's crazy isn't complicated. What conspiracy do you think we aren't being told.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,220 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ....we re all being bullsh1tted by this one.... 'joys' of war!



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There's no ignorance. Everyone knows what invasion means. It's just a rightwing fashion to pretend to agree with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,218 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    Full of natural resources and productive land. Good ports and the fact that he thought he could get away with it.

    Pandemic proves that Governments will just spend their way out of problems. Putin miscalculated and thought he had Europe over a barrel with his cheap gas. ‘Keep your gas, we’ve modelled this already, it’ll take a few years but we’ll be fine, you won’t. Oh, and we’re taking KFC and McDonalds too’

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,361 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    I don;t know what it is or how it is being done but there is a lot of propaganda being spread from both sides.


    It appears to be primarily being spread by social media, predicated upon exploiting people’s ignorance, and by that I mean lack of knowledge, and the filling in of the gaps in that knowledge with information intended to mislead and gain support for their cause from people who already wanted to believe it based upon their previous knowledge (or indeed lack thereof).

    It’s the ordinary people on all sides (because there’s more involved than just Ukraine/Russia), that I feel any kind of sympathy for, as opposed to the administration governing those countries. I can totally understand why people are keen to support Ukraine against Russia, because Russia have always been portrayed as enemies of the West, enemy of my enemies kinda thing going on there, but for me it doesn’t take from the fact that Ukraine has numerous issues which is why, while I’m not happy to see them being invaded, I’m not going to lose sleep over it if Russia had been successful either.

    Obviously Russia have made a complete balls of their initial attempt at invasion, which means the war will drag on for decades.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,479 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Micky D is an awful mutt.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,099 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    No, there isn't. People spouting Putinist drivel should try a different tactic.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Both sides use propaganda, that is the nature of war and promoting your own side, it's just Ukraine are far better and less inept than Russia at it.

    The mask slipped slightly when that missile landed in Poland recently.

    Neither side is going to completely show it's own hand, some things have to remain secret or played up/downplayed for strategic reasons.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Oh there are lies, mistruths and misdirections all over the place in that shítshow. Sides taken too of course. Not so long ago when the vast majority of newly minted experts couldn't place Ukraine on a map to save their lives, the Right on were getting into a tizzy about their fave boogyman the Far Right on the rise in same. The BBC and the Guardian in the UK were warning us of this existential threat. The US State Dept ditto. Today it's Slava Ukraine!!, "nazis" forgiven even Azov being lauded by the same eejits and flags in bios. Russia,; well being the biggest nation empire on earth only Stevie Wonder would have difficultly pointing to that on a map. They were "our friends now", wierd friends, but y'know, with icy blondes, 'Murican Right wingers idolising their little Czar on his pony an' that.

    But forget sides and politics and bullshít. All those tens of thousands of people, men, women and kids dead or injured, many thousands more to die and be crippled Ukrainians and Russians. All those millions displaced. All those towns and cities wiped from the maps. All those who are going to die and are dying right now as we speak in ditches and homes, Ukrainian and Russian. Would any of that have happened If putin hadn't invaded? That's the only relevant question and there's a really simple answer to that and it's No. That's the only certainty and only a deluded moron could deny it.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,479 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    If the TV Licence is for public service broadcasting then every household should pay it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 667 ✭✭✭orourkeda1


    It's not a conspiracy as such. It's just that I believe that we are being fed mistruths as well. As are the russian population.

    https://www.orourkeda.blog



  • Registered Users Posts: 667 ✭✭✭orourkeda1


    https://www.orourkeda.blog



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭Jack Daw



    All sides involved in war use propaganda and to pretend otherwise is idiotic.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Swaine


    If I ain't using it, I ain't paying. Maybe pay a bit extra if you want it so bad.

    Let RTE die, no one cares.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,654 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    G, the gravitational constant, is not a constant.

    Instead it is mass-dependent.

    This explains a lot about the universe. There is no longer any missing mass. Stars are not nuclear furnaces, they are large solid objects that attract clouds of electrons. Planets larger than earth like Jupiter, Saturn etc, are not gas giants but have large solid interiors and relatively small cloud layers (although larger than ours).

    Objects smaller than earth have less mass than conventional astronomy postulates. Mars is a water world with a thin crust. Every time it gets it by a large asteroid, the water ejects out, stays liquid for a few hours, and carves out canyons. The idea that Mars was once capable of sustaining a warm atmosphere with rainfall is absurd. It never happened.

    The Moon is hollow. It used to be an ice world like Europa (a moon of Jupiter) but the ice gradually sublimated out through fissures.

    There are not two different forces, electro-magnetic and gravitational, just one. The gradual reduction in the binding force of larger atoms exactly matches the curve implied by uniting the two forces. The value of G keeps increasing with smaller mass (so that the multiplication of G x mass looks like the constant G result, except that mass keeps decreasing so G must keep increasing -- this is why conventional physics says that the electro-magnetic force is much stronger than the gravitational force).

    People say well the gravitational constant has been proven to exist in laboratories. True, in laboratories carefully shielded from magnetism, which is basically the intermediate signature of the one variable G factor at the compound substance level.

    This will eventually be proven by somebody better connected to the scientific world and will solve all the mysteries I outlined above.

    Gravity is really no mystery at all. It is simply the net product of particles moving around through space bouncing off solid objects. Gravitational force is very often highly correlated with the product of albedo and surface area.

    However, this could still be just my second most controversial theory. More controversial might be the speculation that God does not yet exist. This explains the cruelty of the world ("if there was a just God, why would He not ...") -- well He cannot because He does not yet exist. When he comes into existence, the only things He will be able to do in his past will be the things He did in his past. Otherwise, He won't be able to do such things as ban Hitler, stop Putin, make your life better, etc. After He comes into existence though, all bets are off.

    Ask yourself this. If God existed from some point in time before now, let's say before the dawn of human history, then where did He come from? Why would there be a universe with no God, no human race or any other intelligent life forms, yet there was God? Does it not make more sense that God would evolve out of intelligent life forms? Maybe not homo sapiens, maybe some other planetary species. I don't have any idea who, where, when, etc. If God is a future human being, then it would likely be generations into the future. When you think of the powers that God must possess (mastery of time travel, ability to control life and death, creation of huge astronomical sized entities) then you can see it wouldn't be some contemporary of ours about to unlock the mystery. I would guess 3000-4000 AD as the time frame, if human. If not human, then it removes some of the challenges for earthly history (God could have existed before human history) but it would just transfer the mystery to God's own world of origin (He would have been in their future at some point). Or else, God existed outside the universe and created it. Then it transfers all these questions to that other place, the alternate universe where God existed. You can't escape this mystery, no matter what belief structure you adopt.

    Back to the regular thread now ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,053 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    A public service broadcaster is a valuable asset for any country. So letting it die ? Not a wise or viable strategy. Plenty of people care.

    imagine during Covid and no RTE…. Imagine in years to come if say the Russians invaded…. You’d probably have Virgin cut back from announcing it, to topless darts live from Termonfeckin the way things are going there.

    look at that ‘competition’…Virgin Media… imagine we were just left with that ! They don’t even broadcast 24 hours a day. They are off air from using the current schedule …

    One 02.00-06.30

    Two 02.55-07.00

    Three 01.15-07.10

    Four 01.00-06.00

    More 01.55-12.55

    what is broadcast during the day is heavy on reality TV, cooking, and game shows… little variety or interesting or intelligent broadcasting. And between / across the four channels, over 24 hours of downtime between them every day.

    personally I’d slash the licence fee for private homes, increase it for businesses and make up any shortfall from increasing advertising charges…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    RTE covid coverage was extreme scaremongering bordering on complete shiest. Russian invading? That's worse than most of other conspiracy theories out there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,479 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I do pay and believe me it hurts. I watch the Six One occasionally, that's about it.

    If we accept that a public service broadcaster is necessary for debate,news,national programming and messaging then everyone should pay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Then charge €15 a year per household for the essential stuff and get rid of all the garbage which is 95% of what rte produce. rte should be run of ad revenue only.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,218 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    Let them compete for funding from Central Government like the rest of the entities that rely on state funding.

    With projectors and so many other ways of watching that get around the Law they have to do something. Get the funding from somewhere else or update the Law for this century.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭It wasnt me123


    If we have to pay for it, and I don’t think we should, then we should have a say in Joe Dufy’s 400k salary, same with Ryan tubridy, etc. They pay excessive salaries for hacks and expect us to pay; Well they can feck right off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,053 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    i didn’t find that with RTE in fairness re covid.

    it’s not a conspiracy theory at all what I said about Russia. Simply a hypothetical scenario, to demonstrate the value and importance of a state broadcaster. When the shît hits the fan, they are best placed to work towards reliably informing people.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,973 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    Gordon Ramsey is a sensitive chap with a heart of gold

    On his UK shows he often found the quiet & shy commis chef or kitchen porter and he built up their confidence.

    It was the senior staff and owners who got a bollocking as they deserved it.

    I read his book Humble Pie and he had a pretty terrible childhood with violence and drugs in his family. Fair dues for what he achieved.

    Kitchen Nightmares Uk is on YouTube and is an amazing show. The American version and the fake anger is a load of shite. Everyone knows the rage is put-on but Americans want this for some reason



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I LOVE them! NB for some reason this thread opened at your post! I get Tayto in the multipack and they are the first I eat.

    But then there are probably things YOU love that ! HATE



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    Some of the restaurants literally have rodents wandering around in them. Or are filthy beyond belief. Appalling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,927 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I was always a Salt & Vinegar man , but even then I'd prefer Sam Spuz over Tayto. The thread opening on my post is weird alright.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    "G, the gravitational constant, is not a constant.

    Instead it is mass-dependent."


    OK, I don't think I need to read any more.



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