Pubs and Clubs to get longer opening hours

Dodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119794491#Comment_119794491

With all due respect, this has been talked about for decades. The idea that it’s a surprise to anybody is frankly ridiculous

The Night-Time Economy Taskforce Report was published in September 2021. Everybody who wanted to have a say, had a say. Of course Gardai and local councils have been involved

People arguing strawman because they’re concerned about cleaners or taxi drivers or whoever? Ridiculous carry on

Any clubs who think they can earn more will open up. They’ll find the staff they need to. They might have to pay more but that’s no bad thing

Buses in Dublin are going 24 hours. Some taxi men/women will see this as a boom

Some of you go on like Dublin and other cities are these lawless places with attacks on drunk punters every night. That simply isn’t the case. Every weekend thousands of people have great night outs with no trouble at all.

The timeline shifts now for some people, that’s it. Some places will open later, others won’t. Some people will stay out, others won’t. We just have more choices now

murpho999

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119794467#Comment_119794467

This is an example of people just seeing problems in everything.

Why would there be extra Garda required? It would be the same Gardai policing the current situation. Also there's more public transport at 6am for people living clubs than there would be at 3am.

People are talking of conflicts. But what conflict.

This is not a measure to increase drinking but to acknowledge that our current laws are archaic and were religion driven. Sunday opening hours for example.

It's bringing the country in line with the rest of the world/Europe and they can manage without problems and there is no reason why Ireland won't either.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119794544#Comment_119794544

Define 'easier' that seems a bit of a narrow view, contradicted by below statistics ... A&Es didn't have the usual issues with the pubs closed even at weekend nights from what I read.

The figures below also suggest reduction in assaults etc.

Not sure how your final comment relates ... will 16 year olds be able to drink in pubs now?

A study, carried out at Cork University Hospital and the Mercy University Hospital during the Covid-19 lockdowns last year, found reduced access to night life impacted on the type of emergency cases treated. The number of patients marked as “apparently drunk” dropped by 35% between 2019 and 2020. The study noted a 25% drop between 2018 and 2020 for this type of patient. The study also found the number of patients triaged due to having been assaulted dropped by 35% between 2019 and 2020. There was an even more noticeable gap between 2018 and 2020, when the decrease came to 39%.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40729863.html

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119793872#Comment_119793872

Only one nightclub left open in Galway city now and one in Tuam, thats gas in the second biggest county in the country.

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119794491#Comment_119794491

And who said those people won't be consulted?

Its not as if the law is coming in tomorrow, there is time to go through all those issues.

Jesus Christ we seem to hate any kind of change in this country, the laws were between 150 to 200 years old.

2smiggy

bars and clubs don't have to stay open these hours, but the option is there. people also don't have to go to the pub at 10.30 am till 6 am, again the option is now there (like countless other countries). what exactly is peoples problems with any of this (beside being miserable with there own lives and love complaining)

Galwayguy35

Another side of it though is the nightclubs will have to step up and not be charging an arm and a leg to even walk in the door if they want young people to spend their money in them.

House parties are now very popular and easy to organise, easy enough to get someone to play music and even with the price rise its still a lot cheaper to get booze at the off license.

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119794617#Comment_119794617

The opening hour changes wont fix that - insurance costs for late night premises have been skyrocketing in the last 5 years, and covid was seen as a good time by many to just close up for good. Thats not an opening hours problem.

jrosen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119794602#Comment_119794602

I dont think the rest of europe has the same issues with alcohol that we do in Ireland so Im not sure its comparing like with like. It will have no bearing on my own social life. I am a dinner and drinks person or long lunch with some drinks so i wouldnt be out and about late anymore anyway. its more an overall concern. As I said time will tell.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119794821#Comment_119794821

Most nightclubs are a joke. Just a big uncomfortable room with a lad playing chart hits. I think a lot of people realized during Covid how little they missed them.

Outside of house parties many pubs have really upped their game with what they offer and the late bars often put the clubs to shame.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119794898#Comment_119794898

The point is you have to do something to create European drinking attitudes here.

Our drink issues won't go away by trying the same thing over and over.

AlanG

Highly likely this will save the night club industry as it really differentiates them from late bars. It will be interesting to see how many existing ones will be able to get these licences given the efforts to promote living in the city center. place like the Wright Venue could make a comeback in areas away from houses as long as the Taxi situation is sorted out.

If it leads to staggered closing in cities it will be good but only if there is transport and food available. 12:30 closing for pubs midweek could cause some issues in suburban pubs unless they start enforcing drinking up time as punters leaving at that hour can be pretty noisy. I worked in a massively popular pub the first time they added an extra hour to the closing time and all it did was mean that people went out to the pub at 9 instead of 8. There was no uptake in business and it may have actually damaged business as lots of people still left around 12 as they had to be up for work in the morning.

murpho999

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119794898#Comment_119794898

Sorry but people in other countries do drink and these "issues" you exaggerate are probably caused by restrictive opening hours as people rush before closing etc.

People pint the picture that areas particularly Dublin are dangerous places to be yet I have been going into town for over 30 years and never had one hint of trouble and had some great nights and this will only improve it.

Not everybody goes out for trouble and the vast majority don't get it either despite the doom scenario that people try to create here.

mikethecop

Seems like an effort at a money grab by the vintners with the gov parties trying to keep them happy when they are under pressure. maybe even fulfilling a promise they made when closing the pubs over covid .

Ireland does not have the infrastructure to deal with this. We absolutely do not have the capacity to police it. Ever diminishing numbers of already worn-out and exhausted Gardai trying to prevent murders at 6 am in every major provincial town should be fun.

there is already a massive problem in policing with retention, moral, rosters equipment and political and judicial support for AGS

approx 200 gardai quit this year alone and a class of 150 new recruits could only attract 23 of questionable quality.

If we were ever a 1st world country, we are barely a 2nd world one now

Introducing this in a country with a MASSIVE cocaine problem and dying club culture is wildly inappropriate and stupid populist politics that will cause massive damage for minimal gain

I fcuking hate politicians

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119795034#Comment_119795034

There is absolutely nothing to suggest that clubs are going to still be full at 6am. This is not something that isn't done in loads of other countries around the world, many with even higher alcohol consumption than here.

People leave of their own accord when they feel like it at any stage in the final hours of the night. Drink serving will stop at 5 at the latest and often ends earlier again in similar situations abroad.

Vintners also don't want or care about the 6am bit - specialist nightclub operators are who want that.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119795010#Comment_119795010

Some people think a group of young people being load and boisterous are "dangerous youths"

Maybe cities used to be rough and it definitely sounds like it from stories you hear but it's a massively overblown problem.

The biggest issue is see is yahoos dancing on cars and the like post club and this law goes some way (not far enough) to fix that.

Ham_Sandwich

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119795010#Comment_119795010

exactly i do be out and about in town all the time and never had problems people just like a whinge a moan if there were all these problems we'd see it on the streets

Bullocks

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119794617#Comment_119794617

Bring back CPs !

BagofWeed

A large amount of the comments are hilarious. I often tell foreign friends about the backwardness of Ireland so I'll be sending this thread on to a few. lol. Pathetic reactionaries easy to see how the Catholic school system has destroyed a large proportion of the populations ability to think critically but the most disgusting aspect here is how entitled some folks think they are to interfere in another persons business and tell other people how to live. And we supposed to be a democracy !

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119795373#Comment_119795373

Username checks out. Poundshop Bill Hicks rambling

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119795373#Comment_119795373

I bet many people who are now tut tutting this were not so upset about change when the rules of their parents generation were changed. Probably railed against the backwardness of chicken in a basket. But as usual

BagofWeed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119795399#Comment_119795399

Irish reactionary response checks out ! Have you much going on between those ears ? Nobody will be forcing you to take time out to go to a club either, couldn't have ya missing mass, lol.

lmao10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119795373#Comment_119795373

It's definitely pretty funny how backward some of the opinions are on here. I think the Catholic school system has had some effect. A lot of the posters in this and other threads are using religion to justify their stances on certain topics and we know how idiotic that is but a lot of the older generation here are really out of touch with the younger generation, many of whom are not religious at all thankfully and that is how the country is going, especially after the scandals and disgusting conduct that the church has been responsible for. It's not long ago when we had people turning up in large numbers to see holy statues moving.

murpho999

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119795034#Comment_119795034

We do have the infrastructure, they're called pubs and clubs. Been there for years.

Also, go educate yourself about 1st World and 2nd World countries. It's a not a grading system and 2nd World no longer exists.

You should relax and go for a pint before 11.30 tonight.

US3

Those poor nightclub owners being forced to stay open untill 6am.

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119795575#Comment_119795575

I personally am dreading being forced by the state to drink from 10.30am until 5am now. After all, its absolutely inconceivable that people might start and stop drinking at their leisure in between the opening and closing hours. We are all compelled to stay from open to closing as the dirty alcoholics we are.

waterwelly

One thing that really killed nightclubs was moving Friday and Saturday night closing from 11.30pm to 12.30pm.

That was ample for most people and the need to pay into somewhere for late drinks was no longer there, and some pubs just went with bar extensions so you didn't have to pay in.

I'd be surprised if we see anywhere outside of a couple of 6am clubs in Dublin and a few elsewhere.

I doubt they will be primarily nightclubs, just a place for late pints.

US3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119795683#Comment_119795683

Not sure about that. Friday night was just as busy as a Saturday night in the pubs in my town 15 years ago, these days a Friday is similar to a Tuesday or Wednesday.

MadYaker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119795665#Comment_119795665

Yeah I’m going to have to up my alcohol tolerance significantly or I just won’t be able to hack it. Might have to start drinking 4 or 5 cans every day.

murpho999

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119795665#Comment_119795665

Yes and when you're finished drinking go outside, attack a passer by, go for food and start a fight by jumping the queue. Back outside and wait for bus, assault a Garda after it doesn't arrive and take them to nearest hospital and dump them with the rest piled up in the A&E department.