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NZ Tour 2022 - Māori June 29th, NZ July 2nd, NZ July 9th, Māori July 12th, NZ July 16th, KO 8.05am

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Tom Daly and Peter Dooley are fair calls, but Delahunt went to school in Kilkenny College (when it was fee-paying) so doesn't fit the criteria.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Former Former Former




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,147 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Thanks so much for that. I've just cancelled my 10euro a month Sport Extra for the URC. 10 euro a month for all the tours is grand.



  • Registered Users Posts: 262 ✭✭VayNiice


    Can you watch sky sports on demand with now TV or is it live streaming only?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,147 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Hi, live streaming only.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,679 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Most welcome 👍

    The mobile pass is free for 6 months with code SMMPJRGYXZWB but has to be redeemed before 23:59 on the 27th - 20 minutes from now



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭theVersatile


    CT indicating a few surprises in the Maori team - no sign of one of the usual "predicted starting XVs" that come in the 24h prior to the team announcement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,223 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Will Jordan has tested positive for Covid and will miss the first test.




  • Registered Users Posts: 44 Deramore


    Māori All Blacks v IRELAND 

    FMG Stadium, Hamilton, Wednesday 29th June, 2022

    KO: 8.05am Irish Time

    15. Jimmy O’Brien (Leinster/Naas) uncapped

    14. Jordan Larmour (Leinster/St Mary’s College) 30 caps

    13. James Hume (Ulster/Banbridge) 3 caps

    12. Bundee Aki (Connacht/Galwegians) 37 caps captain

    11. Keith Earls (Munster/Young Munster) 96 caps

    10. Ciaran Frawley (Leinster/Skerries) uncapped

    9. Craig Casey (Munster/Shannon) 5 caps

    1. Jeremy Loughman (Munster/Garryowen) uncapped

    2. Dave Heffernan (Connacht/Buccaneers) 6 caps

    3. Tom O’Toole (Ulster/Ballynahinch) 2 caps

    4. Joe McCarthy (Leinster/Dublin) uncapped

    5. Kieran Treadwell (Ulster/Ballymena) 5 caps

    6. Cian Prendergast (Connacht) uncapped

    7. Nick Timoney (Ulster/Banbridge) 2 caps

    8. Gavin Coombes (Munster/Young Munster) 2 caps

    Replacements

    16. Niall Scannell (Dolphin/Munster) 20 caps

    17. Cian Healy (Leinster/Clontarf) 116 caps

    18. Finlay Bealham (Connacht/Buccaneers) 23 caps

    19. Ryan Baird (Leinster/Dublin University) 8 caps

    20. Jack Conan (Leinster/Old Belvedere) 27 caps

    21. Conor Murray (Munster/Garryowen) 96 caps

    22. Joey Carbery (Munster/Clontarf) 32 caps

    23. Michael Lowry (Ulster/Banbridge) 1 cap



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,567 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets




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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭TRC10


    Disappointed that Harry is injured but can't say I'm surprised. Excited to see how Frawley goes though, and we'll find out if the "Frawley is our next best 10" brigade, have been right all along.

    Hume gets his chance to play himself into the team for the 2nd test. Very excited to see how he goes. Having Aki inside him will suit him I think.

    Extremely dynamic and mobile pack. Love the balance of the backrow, can't wait to see them in action.

    I'm surprised both Larmour and Earls are starting. I thought JOB would be on the wing with Lowry at 15. And I would have thought Earls or Larmour would be starting at 14 in the first test. One of them must be doubling up. Surely Lowry doesn't play 15 with Keenan on the wing???

    Very exciting team though altogether. Can't wait now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,618 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Is this a full test? So everyone gets a cap?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,618 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Just saw its not a test cap.



  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭knockoutned


    Florugby are showing the games in the USA & Canada. Cost $30 for the month.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Alma Blue Table


    Just saw Henderson is actually out of the tour, really big blow for us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,411 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    I’m liking that team, very hard to really shine in a scratch team but with the Māori being similarly put together it could make for a good game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,946 ✭✭✭long_b


    Thanks very much for this - code just worked for me.

    Can you do anything about my 9 AM meetings ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Exciting team but wouldn't be optimistic about our prospects of a win. Still, plenty to be learned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Former Former Former




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    By coincidence I booked the day off work to bring the child to an allergy clinic at 10am. Might just forget it and try to watch it on catch up later in the day. Getting the lad ready and out on time is not conducive to watching rugby.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    Larmour and Earls both starting puts a spanner in the works for the test side with Mack out.

    Lowry could get the nod on the wing as he’s probably the most similar to Mack in terms of playmaking ability.

    with Henderson I wonder will they call up another lock/back row (move Baird to lock). Molony would probably be the front runner for lock



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 429 ✭✭Madeoface


    Frawley at 10.....finally we can have a peek. Fingers crossed he has a blinder and becomes a real option there.



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,850 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Harry Byrne's career is starting to develop a very frustrating theme!

    This tour could be a watershed if he doesn't play and Frawley gets decent time at 10 and puts in great performances.

    That being said, is a hell of an ask to start a guy in a position he hasn't played in two years. It also points to Lowry being in the test squad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,147 ✭✭✭OldRio


    A great opportunity for these players. Looking forward to this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,737 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    Just when you start to forget about covid....

    Serves as a reminder that it may well be a factor at next year's world cup



  • Administrators Posts: 54,098 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Think our chances almost evaporate without Henderson unfortunately.



  • Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭RAKM


    Is it on any radio station in Ireland or UK?



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Alma Blue Table


    Now TV is mad, currently have BT free until August (was on a tenner a month for 6 months, went to cancel and they gave me 3 months free), Sky Sports overall for 1/2 price until Sept (though I'm going to try cancel and redeem that ten euro code above) and just redeemed that mobile code for free until December. You pretty much never have to pay full price.


    Edit - did cancel Sky Sports and tried to redeem the ten euro code but won't let me. Have a sub to watch the rugby over the summer anyway and there's not much else I'm interested in so shrug. Will just pick up whatever other deals they have going in future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,737 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    If you have 2 or 3 email addresses on the go you'll always have a decent offer on both Sky and BT. You can also use 2 devices at the same time so can split the cost further with a friend/family member..



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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Alma Blue Table


    On the game, that tight 5 is not good for this level of rugby. Also looks like one of the back 3 is going to have to play Wednesday and Saturday.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Shehal


    The Maori award test caps but their opposition dont.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Realistically , he's not going to feature on the tour now, barring an injury to Sexton or Carbery.

    As you say , if Frawley shows up well tomorrow it could be a very bad sign for the longer term for Byrne.

    With Ngatai coming , if Frawley shows promise at 10 HB could find himself getting very little game time with Leinster next season, even if he manages to stay fit for more than a few weeks at a time.

    Must be incredibly frustrating for him.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Alma Blue Table


    Would that involve having BT on one account and Sky on the other though? I'm pretty lazy and my TV has a native NowTV app so think logging out and in depending on what channel would be a step too far for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,737 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    Yeah and it can be a bit tedious logging in and out on the TV remote



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭TRC10


    It's a big 'if' though. Out half is the most difficult position on the pitch to slot into having not played there in a long time. Particularly after over 2 years of not playing there, in a thrown together side. He's only played with 2 of the other backs before. It's a massive ask for him. And it would be insanely impressive if he was to shoot the lights out tomorrow.

    I know there has been a large cohort banging the drum that he's an amazing ten, but that's based on hope more than evidence, because there is virtually no evidence. The reality is nobody really knows, because he hasn't played there. And it's important to understand that being a great player, doesn't always equal being a great ten. I think he'll do an ok job, but I just can't see a scenario where he puts in a 9/10 and catapults himself to being Sexton's undisputed backup and heir to his throne. I just don't see it, but hopefully I'm wrong.

    As for Harry Byrne, I think he's got a lot of talent, but the guy is made of breadsticks and I just can't see him ever being an international or even provincial regular unfortunately. I think Farrell should cut his losses and move on. If he goes back to Leinster, gets over his injury woes and plays his way back in, then great. But he needs to end the fast tracking, it's doing him no good.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,679 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    You are all most welcome for the codes but I'd just like to point out that for an extra €3 a month you get the streams in HD and a third screen to split the bill 3 ways if you so desire



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Don't disagree with most of that.

    I'm not expecting Frawley to "shoot the lights out" and suddenly be the anointed heir or whatever tomorrow, but if he produces a competent performance that indicates that continuing to try him at 10 is worth doing then my comments about Harry Byrne next season apply.

    To be honest , I've never really seen what exactly it is people see in HB thus far , clearly coaches see something though but like you say his current lack of anything approaching physical durability means that he's a wasted space on Ireland squads for the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,854 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    Hansen and Harry injury has thrown spanner in works. Looks like Farrell was always going to play O'Brien at FB and Larmour at 14 in this game and just stuck with that plan as all the injuries mounted. (I hope it is Larmour at 14 on Sat)

    I really wanted to see allot more of Lowry, Carbery and also Frawley at 12 on this tour. Frawley will quite possibly not play at 10 again until Sexton is gone. Its a bit of a wasted slot seeing him there. That's touring I suppose.

    Silver lining with no Henderson is that Ireland are forced to get more game time into Baird at lock with the added bonus of Joe McCarthy now starting! He may yet win a cap.... 'On test dayboo' v NZ. Would be amazing really considering he was an Academy player 4 months ago!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,679 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    RTE radio say they'll be covering it, not sure exactly which station though, talksport in the UK are good for international rugby as well usually but nothing on their website



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭TRC10


    To be honest , I've never really seen what exactly it is people see in HB thus far 

    He put in some really strong performances back in 19/20 and looked like he could be the real deal. Was taking the ball to the line better than any 10 in Ireland bar Sexton at one point. Had a physicality about him and an excellent kicking game. I think this was during the 2019 RWC so it possibly went unnoticed by a lot of non-Leinster fans. Farrell had him in as a development player that season. But since then, injuries have meant he's never been able to put any sort of run of games together and his form has suffered big time too. His biggest problem is without doubt is his injury proneness. You'd have to wonder, when will Leinster and Ireland stop investing so much time in him and move on to more reliable options. You can forget about him in terms of the World Cup.

    If Frawley does play well tomorrow, it could change the picture a bit. But many a time throughout rugby history, has there been a very talented ball-playing 12 or 15, and fans have been clamouring for them to play 10. Only for them to play 10, and actually not be very good. Obviously, I hope that's not the case with Frawley but I guess we'll find out tomorrow.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Realistically , he's not going to feature on the tour now, barring an injury to Sexton or Carbery.

    There's still another game against the Maori, so hopefully H Byrne will be back for that.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭crisco10


    Gutted for Harry as well, but I agree with others that surely his injury proneness is going to hamper his chances for WC 23 at this point? If we bring Sexton, Carbery and H Byrne, it's hardly a stellar list of athletes who stay injury free is it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭RAKM


    Ta Red Silurian. I checked all the websites of stations that might broadcast yesterday and nothing on them. RTE might mean the tests only are being covered. I would have thought there was enough interest for these also. I'll keep an eye on Radio1 Extra.



  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Mr Clever


    Is team named?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭TRC10




  • Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭Skyfloater




  • Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭Lucas44


    unlikely any of the starting back 3 tomorrow will start Saturday, tough to ask a player to play 140+ minutes in 4 days. Much more likely Keenan on the wing with lowry 15 & maybe larmour on the bench



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Frawley has a terrible injuries profile too. I'd be worried about him getting injured too and needing Mike Lowry as backup 10.

    Frawley tended to play 12 when he got injured so 10 will be less abrasive. But still a concern.



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