F1 2022 thread - see post 1 for rules

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119128024#Comment_119128024

Because Daniel is not a crap driver. It's just the Mclaren does not suit him and he Is going through a bad patch.

Who knows the Mclaren might suit Alonso better now. I definitely think the Alpine would suit Daniel better and that leaving Renault was a big mistake by him but them leaving Red Bull was too.

quokula

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119128672#Comment_119128672

At the end of last year I might have agreed with you, but the McLaren is a completely different car this year and Ricciardo is still nowhere. He was a great driver once but for whatever reason he's lost his edge and it's been going on too long to simply blame the car not suiting him. Maybe he has the ability to regain his confidence and come back at another team but it would be too big a leap of faith for another team to take him on.

guyfo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119128672#Comment_119128672

Right now he absolutely is, Daniel is one of my favourite drivers of recent years but his performances just aren't there anymore. Saying the car doesn't suit him is just an excuse, he isn't getting the performance out of the car and is getting his ass handed to him by noris for a 2nd season now.

Alpine would be out of their minds to take him on when they have the likes of Piastri waiting in the background. That's not even considering the toxic history Fernando has with McLaren, why would they want him back!?!

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119128672#Comment_119128672

Yeahnid agree with the two comments above. HE isn't necessarily crap, but his level not performs absolutely crap at the moment. It's their job to adapt to the car to get the most out of it. Inability to adapt to the car IS a major weakness. Why would another team take a punt on him and hope he can adapt to their car when he has failed so do so in the mclaren?

Saying the car doesn't suit him is a 'just so' story which goes along the lines of: Daniel is a very good driver. He isn't doing well in the McLaren therefore the car doesn't suit him.

The same was said about vettel in the Ferrari. But he hasn't recaptured his form of yore. He's doing g a bit better and beating Stroll which is nothing to write home about.

Drivers can lose their edge. It happens. People who dislike Hamilton have no difficulty noticing his drop in performances this year and revel in the schadenfruede. But they're having great difficulty noticing the same thing happening with Dic.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119129722#Comment_119129722

Why would another team take a punt on him and hope he can adapt to their car when he has failed so do so in the mclaren?

Because he was at Alpine then Renault before and the knows the team and they know him. A bit like when Alonso left Mclaren to go back to Renault in 2008.

Mclaren and Alonso are on good terms now I think. Its a different team to when he raced with them in 2007 and even since he most recently raced with them.

He left on good terms.

Anyway it probably will not happen or maybe it will it's Formula 1 anything can happen. We just have to wait and see.

PsychoPete

Ricciardos personality is keeping him in F1, he was at his peak at RedBull and its all been downhill since not sure if too many teams have touch him now. If Alpine were to replace Alonso then Piastri be a better shout than Ricciardo

mickdw

Ricciardo is pushing on age wise so he has probably lost something.

He is in a career ending situation there which is terrible.

He was a super quick driver and if he believes he has the speed still, he would want to be getting out of there.

I could see him in the Aston next year.

Stroll would be thinking big name into the team. If he is quick, they would claim it a no brainer as he was always a class driver.

If lance was to beat him, they would class lance as on a par with Norris and is world champ material.

recyclebin

The same excuses used for Vettel, are now being thrown around for Ricciardo. The truth is that they both look to have peaked and are now well past their best. Their minds seem to be elsewhere and they have lost focus.

ricimaki

I wonder could there be a swap within McLaren, between Daniel and O'Ward or Rosenqvist for a single event.

I don't follow Indycar to know how good either of them are, but I think Daniel would fit in well with racing in the US.

I also see Montoya is a McLaren Indycar driver. That would be an interesting swap for 1 race!

Gasly or Albon seem the best choices within F1, unless Hamilton wants to return to where he started for a season. Vettel, Magnussen, Sainz or Ocon could be remote possibilities, but I'd say very unlikely.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119129904#Comment_119129904

I don't think he'd fit in after a lap or two of dive-bombing. :D He'd be popular with fans, drivers would likely whinge within a race or two.

guyfo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119129904#Comment_119129904

Do either of those indy drivers have a chance of enough superlicence points to race?

The FIA really should have a page with up to date superlicence points standings, almlst impossible to find out for some drivers.

duploelabs

On the subject of Riccardo, the idea of drivers suiting the team and how not 'getting the love' from the team is discussed here between Button and Rosberg can drive a driver from a team and they just seem to not be 'in the groove' with their car.

https://youtu.be/BJBJQAUE0qM

Ah for ****.

Clownshow

Have a feeling the rain won't be much and the full wets guys will look silly.

Ah here it just gets stupider and **** stupider.

Extreme wets means anyone near the back should pit lap one. They're just adding more mistakes the more decisions they make.

AMKC

Lads there is a thread for the race. No need to post about it in here too unless you want to get banned.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119130290#Comment_119130290

Yeah cheers, I stopped when I realised when I was on the wrong thread but deleting posts is beyond the technology of 2022. Careful with the backseat moderating unless you want to get banned.

JSNNSJ

Curious after today, do you feel as if Mick is closer to getting the boot from Haas or do you believe he's still learning in a car that's proven it has potential for points?

Hijpo

Not sure, he has shown he can drive the car on a rare occasion.

How much time and how many chances? With this being a long calendar I think its more than enough time for teams to gauge where their drivers are at.

Danny Ric at the moment is the biggest risk to losing a seat, if he wants to drive in F1 I think he could be lowering his wage to the low end of mid tier drivers.

Harika

Sure he has the potential for points ...low bar here.

More pilots than expected having performance troubles this year.

MSc, ric, tsunoda, gasly, latifi, ham

dulpit

Ricciardo and Schumacher are maybe the biggest disappointments this year so far. At some point Mick's lack of points is going to become a major burden. It took Zhou just one race to get off the board (he's not been great either, but at least he has a point), Mick is now 28 races in to his career without a point. Last year can be discounted, but KMag was able to walk off a plane and score points in 3 of the first 4 races.

With only 20 seats, there's not much room to hide like this for too long you'd imagine...

PsychoPete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119131990#Comment_119131990

In fairness Tsunoda has been out performing Gasly but that Alpha Tauri isn't great, Yuki is only 4 points behind Kmag. Latifi and Stroll have no business being in the sport. Ricciardo should get the boot

Joeface

Not F1 ,but ex F1 , Marcus Ericsson well done on winning the indy 500...some drive

Joeface

Mick Schumacher is an expensive driver , there is a thing on Reddit the deconstructors championship , he won that last year . Cost Haas more than Mazepin by some margin . After today I would say he is back on top of that again . Not always his own fault but seems to happen him on street circuits .when he has accidents they always seem to be on the big side as well.

flazio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119132225#Comment_119132225

Glad to see Grosjean didn't hit him 😁

MadYaker

Checo is flying in that Red Bull now. I wonder how will RB handle it if he starts contending for the title? A lot of it has to do with Max's DNFs and I suspect that he may pull away eventually but Checo has out qualified him a few times.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119132443#Comment_119132443

It's not likely though. Bottas could beat Hamilton on occasion. Regularly outqualified him too. But nobody thinks they're on the same level. Same with Perez. He's alright and can even beat Max on occasion. But he's not on the same level as Max over a season.

RB would be fools to let Perez take points off Max on the odd ocasion when he's faster. But RB are not fools.

quokula

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119129883#Comment_119129883

Vettel has been destroying his teammate week in week out for the last two years, and has scored two podiums in a car that's barely good enough to get out of Q1 most of the time. Put Vettel in a top team and he'd be competing for championships again easily, he's been squeezing the absolute maximum out of that Aston Martin. It's really not comparable to Ricciardo's chronic underperformance.

quokula

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119132443#Comment_119132443

They've been teammates for 29 races. Max has been faster in 28 of those races and Perez has been faster once. He's closer to Max in the standings right now than he normally would be due to reliability. It's always possible that Max has more DNFs over the rest of the season and Checo ends up there, but it's incredibly unlikely. People are putting far too much weight in the fact that he had the pace today for the first time in 29 races, and there was a brief period in the previous race that he was ahead of his much faster teammate for no reason other than the fact he was on a different strategy and had not yet made his final pitstop like Max had.