F1 2022 thread - see post 1 for rules

quokula

Surely it’s time for F1 to cut ties with Sky. For years now they’ve continually brought the sport into disrepute with their false narratives, conspiracy theories and xenophobia fuelled hate filled coverage. Now that they’ve gone so far that the world champions of the sport have no choice but to boycott them as a matter of integrity, F1 really needs to examine if they need Sky to continue injecting so much toxicity into the sport. I know there are contracts in place but there must surely be clauses in place in the event that Sky keep doing their best to tarnish the sport.

dulpit

Unrelated to the pros or cons of sky, something I've often wondered - when you see the mechanics push an f1 car around, are they on a trolley of some sort under the car? Is it attached or pushed under it?

Andrew76

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119813159#Comment_119813159

The car is lifted at the front and back and trolleys rolled underneath it.

dulpit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119813191#Comment_119813191

I've seen them jack it up front and back, but never seen the trolley go in underneath...

Andrew76

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119813217#Comment_119813217

Ah you see it all the time during practice for example, when they come back into the pits, they’re jacked up and little flat trollies rolled under from the side. 🙂

Santan

Does anyone consider this red bull dominance the same as Mercedes dominance since 2014, personally for me no, because with Mercedes, not only was there no real question as to who was going to win, there was rarely a question as to what team was going to take, pole, 1st and 2nd, whereas for red bull, a 1 -2 is never a foregone conclusion

Harika

Typical Ted spewing words, I see where red bull is salty but it was a live show and not a scripted segment where the wording is drafted word by word.

Santan

Also, my god the size of toto's arms, they are bigger than the girls head, he is enormous

Hijpo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119813846#Comment_119813846

I would say no.

Qualifying seems to always be close between the RB, Merc and Ferrari. On race day strategy has left Ferrari down, Aero has left Merc down. Next year will be close, you won't see anyone dominating entire weekends like merc were.

Santan

A good synopsis and very true, one team destroying all the others in qualifying for 5 plus years again marks them out as such a dominant force

quokula

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119813846#Comment_119813846

It's not even remotely close to that level of dominance. Mercedes just had to turn up and were guaranteed victory for most of the hybrid era as long as they didn't mess up too badly, nobody physically at the track had to perform particularly well at any given race to ensure victory because the equipment would do it for them.

There have been a few races this year where Red Bull have had the fastest car, but for the majority of his victories Max has had to fight tooth and nail from behind, make overtakes, and the team have had to get strategy perfect to get the win. And as you mention, the other Red Bull without Max in it is rarely as close to the front. The team has precisely zero front row lockouts.

El_Duderino 09

Quali is a big difference between now and the Mercedes dominance. The main difference between the RB and Ferrari is tyre durability. Ferrari is somewhat close on pace but chews through the tyre.

The fact that it was closer at the start of the season sticks in people's minds too. It was nip and tuck at the beginning. But RB's development has far outstripped the rest and now they're pretry dominant in races. They're not as dominant as Mercedes were when they could win races by 30 seconds. But at the moment there's little doubt about who will win the races.

Burkie1203

Wonder Will Russell get pulled up on his comment about driving someone off the road if they are not his team mate

thefa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119813009#Comment_119813009

While I agree with the sentiment, the financial implications to Liberty would take it off the table I would imagine. Sky have to cater to their main audience I guess too and a bit of controversy is good for the sport to stir things up, particularly in a year that had to follow 2021. Think the tribalism could grow more legs.

When you take a step back and compare it to other sports, the regularly complaining of fans and commentators about the application of the rules is quite akin to other sports and their coverage.

McFly85

The interesting thing about the Sky deal is that F1 already have the infrastructure set up to allow customers to subscribe directly. I presume Sky spend a serious amount on the rights, with the added benefit of advertising to existing customers to drive up viewership.

dulpit

I fell asleep watching race last night, so didn't see any of the post-race coverage on Sky, did they make any reference to the boycott of Sky by Red Bull or make any comment about why they didn't interview Max or Checo?

Jordan 199

Last two races of the season coming up. Brazil this weekend and Abu Dhabi next weekend.

KillerShamrock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848285#Comment_119848285

So max will win them! Who will come second in those 2 races is the more exciting question? I'd say checo will get second in the driver's and Ferrari may just pip merc for the constructors.

Frank Bullitt

Max should take it, but I suspect Ferrari will be a bit stronger at least in Abu Dhabi.

Hijpo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119850002#Comment_119850002

Merc have gotten closer and closer in the last three races. I wouldn't completely rule them out.

NinjaTruncs

In my opinion the mercs will only win if both Red Bull and Ferrari mess up, Mercs whole season has been based on one of the other two teams messing up. If Ferrari weren't so Ferrari Mercedes wouldn't even have a look at second place in the championship.

And also Sky will be insufferable if Hamilton wins a race this year making it out like it's the greatest underdog story since slum dog millionaire

Burkie1203

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119850376#Comment_119850376

Well with Hamilton being Brazilian now surely Sky will be massaging the egos of Russell and Lando

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119850257#Comment_119850257

They will need luck to go their way for a win. Ferrari were totally off the pace in Mexico for a mix of reasons.

Generally, brazil is the only potential crazy race. Most races in Abu Dhabi have been fairly predictable in recent year...with a notable exception.

PsychoPete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119850467#Comment_119850467

And according to Brazil he's an 8 time world champion aswell

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119850640#Comment_119850640

They are a funny bunch.

Spudman_20000

Brazil's love affair with Hamilton is bizarre alright. So Senna is his idol? Big whoop. That's where the comparison ends. Hamilton hasn't a ounce of the charisma or aura that Senna had.

It's almost as if Hamilton tries to piggy back off his personality, as he has little of his own.

McFly85

Ferrari are in damage limitation mode. They will happily coast to 5th and 6th in the last 2 races to get second in the constructors.

They had a genuinely brilliant car this year, if they can work out how to ease up on tire wear it could be one of the best on the grid next year. They will have to improve their current strategy of just asking the drivers what they should do, though.

quokula

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119852679#Comment_119852679

It's not like the Brazilian government have been renowned for making great decisions in recent years. Nelson Piquet Jr was quite critical of the decision, mentioning that Lewis has zero connection with Brazil other than turning up for races and saying he likes Senna. It seems like the decision was made off the back of him wearing a Senna tribute helmet and driving a victory lap with a Brazilian flag after the race win last year, which were smart PR moves to draw attention away from the flexing rear wing and spicy engine that delivered an easy win for them that weekend.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119853822#Comment_119853822

Ah, isn't Piquet Max's father in law these days? Hardly an objective observer in last years championship.

I seriously wonder what some people would do of Hamilton ever does something genuinely bad. He paid tribute to Senna and Brazil, and somehow he's an asshole for that? I don't get it.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119850467#Comment_119850467

Why when did Hamilton become Brazillian lol?

So what's left to win? Whoever is 2nd in the Constructors and 3rd and 4th maybe?

Who is 3rd in the drivers championship?

I know Max won and Sergio was 2nd. So is Lecerc 3rd?