Kyle Rittenhouse found not guilty

Pa ElGrande

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200282#Comment_118200282

I can only speculate, one line is that the handlers are striking pre-emptively to frighten off any potential defamation lawsuits which could become another political quagmire for him.

President Joe Biden could face a civil defamation suit from newly-acquitted Kyle Rittenhouse for calling him a “white supremacist” last year — without evidence, and before Biden was able to enjoy the immunities of presidential office.

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The other is that his handlers want to maintain control of the narrative, there is quite a bit of cognitive dissonance on display, since the facts presented in the case are out of line with the dominant mainstream media narrative preceding the case. These are some of the lies still circulating among the generation public that were demolished during the trial.

• He killed two black BLM protesters.
• He crossed state lines.
• He took an AR-15 across state lines.
• The gun was illegal.
• His mother drove him across state lines to the riot.
• He was an "active shooter" who took his gun to a riot looking for trouble.
• He is a "white supremacist". Joe Biden labelled him such in a tweet showing Rittenhouse.
• The judge is a Trump supporter.

Everyone has busy lives, ordinarily I would not have much time to follow this case either, Normally I would not be exploring much beyond the headlines on matters that don't directly interest me like most others and I might have the same impression if the mainstream media was my only source. In the United States the term "Fake News" originated by the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, rebounded on them and in this case where the facts are so clear in court, more people will be swallowing red pills (the matrix reference)

Here is what the Democrat governor of Illinois has to say. Where are he and his staff getting their information and who is their audience?

https://twitter.com/GovPritzker/status/1461802665986465797

The Democrats don't intend to leave this alone. Politically Mr. Jerry Nadler is aligned with the Democratic Socialists of America.

https://twitter.com/politicususa/status/1461779690453094403

Here is an interview (7 minutes) on CNN with Rittenhouse defence attorney, Mr. Richards comes across as a decent man and sidesteps the politics and invective that the media inserts.

https://twitter.com/CuomoPrimeTime/status/1461894169580953600

wildeside

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200329#Comment_118200329

A lot of people should not have been there, not just Rittenhouse. But that trial was not about that (for the millionth time). People seem to be focussing on that now because they didn't get the result they wanted. Toys being thrown out of the pram.

How did he "get away" with murder? It's the complete opposite, he was cleared of murder in a high profile court case with a lot of chips stacked against him. Apart from the actual facts, they were stacked in his favour.

Did you not see the video evidence or are you just letting other people make up your mind for you? Which incidents did you feel were not self-defense and why?

If you're going to say he got away with it you need to backup that statement otherwise you'll just sound like a petulant child who isn't getting what he wants.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118199328#Comment_118199328

The coldness in this post, only the very naive or well insulated by Daddy's bank account could espouse such views.

The insurance will cover it, do you know anything about insurance, ever made a claim?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118198669#Comment_118198669

Yeah let the scum of society burn everything to the ground. Take it a step further why not let people come into your house attack your family and steal everything and then burn it down. Why defend it at all, its idiots like yourself that have allowed the scum to think its okay to attack people on our streets and rob our homes everyday.

You think its always someone elses responsibility to defend yourself and your home. You clearly haven't lived too much or lead an extremely protected life. A slug would have more backbone. Thankfully there is people out there less selfish.

1800_Ladladlad

Gina Carano got sacked from The Mandolorian for less than this....

https://twitter.com/PedroPascal1/status/1462130966533578755

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200160#Comment_118200160

The good news is that puritanical religious movements never last.

The bad news is that in the time it takes us to murder the ideology, reform its ignorant dupes, and cast its perniciously malevolent leaders and conscious co-conspirators to the very bottom of society where they belong, they can do a lot of damage.

They can also spawn extremist counter-ideologies, which nobody wants.

The Quintessence Model

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118198196#Comment_118198196

He isn't. I don't either. You seem strangely desperate to bring race into this.

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200642#Comment_118200642

He isn't. I don't either. You seem strangely desperate to bring race into this.

Generous.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118198114#Comment_118198114

A half Hispanic boy shot a rapist and a kidnapper while they were trying to kill him, one of whom was screaming the N word at black people

Now rich white people are going crazy over his acquittal. The richer the angrier they are about it.

Can you imagine getting anally raped at the age of 9 and then years later, seeing Twitter covered in Rest in Peace for him.

Lollipop95

Self defence? He was armed, the people that he shot weren’t. He had an assault rifle and was the one with the power. There was zero need to aim directly at any of them. The fact that’s he got away without any type of charge is really shocking to me.

I actually initially thought he was a police man when I first heard of the case but the fact that he went to protest armed with a rifle shows that his motives weren’t entirely noble.

I agree that the one guy he killed is no loss to the world, but that wasn’t known at the time.

Pa ElGrande

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200568#Comment_118200568

Throw in Covid lockdowns, that wiped out small businesses cash flow prior to the riots, to manage that a business might have to suspend insurance payments or reduce coverage, no cover when the riots happen months later. Even when you have insurance, the policy very often does not cover replacement costs, you have no money to rebuild and restock to get operations going again. Arguing with insurance companies also takes time even years to resolve.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200672#Comment_118200672

The prosecution in this case think they should just take their beating. Lots of the left and left politicians agree with that view. The left in the USA are not what they were 20 years ago. They have morphed into something absolutely immoral and disgusting. Definitely some social engineering to blame for it, but they were obviously weak minded in the first place.

ErnestBorgnine

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200707#Comment_118200707

100% of the people who didn't attack Rittenhouse weren't shot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200707#Comment_118200707

Bless.

That sort of ignorance was perhaps excusable before the trial. You've absolutely no excuse to be so wrong at this stage unless you are actively going out of your way to find incorrect information and regurgitate it as truth.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200707#Comment_118200707

One attacked him with a chain tried to pull the gun off him and told him he was going to kill him, another attacked his head with a skateboard, the third pull a weapon on him. You are completely blinkered, purposely misleading or completely naive of any of the facts of the case.

Lollipop95

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200721#Comment_118200721

The only place I’ve seen support for Rittenhouse actions is this thread and a couple of people on Facebook. Also the youtube comment section under a Fox News video, but I believe they’re very anti Biden and pro Trump so unsurprising. The vast majority are in agreement that the verdict was wrong and he should have been found guilty. Even the president of the US released a statement saying that he was disappointed!

ErnestBorgnine

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200744#Comment_118200744

You forgot to mention the court.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200744#Comment_118200744

Thats because you are operating in an echo chamber. What do you think twitter is, a similar thinking herd that whip up each others views to absurd levels of mediocrity. You are like a bunch of sheep that all run off a cliff together because one of you thought you heard a fox.

That wouldn't happen in a normal conversation as people would just laugh at you and you would have learned to shut up talking nonsense. As for Biden thats the supporters he has got left, the keyboard warriors and the permanently outraged.

My advice would be to go and have conversations with people that venture outside. Twitter represents a tiny tiny minority, who are self righteous and are extremely loud. Or better still travel and live amongst those who don't have time or money for twitter.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200744#Comment_118200744

Lol.

Perhaps if you and your friends knew more about the case, instead of parroting stuff you've seen on twitter or Facebook then you'd have a different opinion.

Or maybe you wouldn't. For some bizarre reason you brought up Donald trump.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200726#Comment_118200726

It's only fair to point out that Rosenbaum didn't have the chain when he attacked Rittenhouse.

Homelander

It's incredible that people continue to perpetrate deliberate lies or at best ignorant mistruths about the case that are generally framed around a narrative of innocent protestors being shot and murdered by a rampant gun-man.

Facts are facts. In a highly publicised court case, anyone with half a brain could see from the start the facts presented didn't remotely support the prosecutions arguments.

It doesn't mean you support Kyle Rittenhouse being there in the manner or was or American's gun laws or culture. It says nothing other than that you understand the facts of the case, in accordance with the law in the US, did not support the charges made against Kyle Rittenhouse.

There's no mystery, no conspiracy, no injustice - just a ton of people ranting and raving online living in an entirely different reality that does not align with the actual, literal facts of the case.

Kelly-Anne Conway called them "alternative facts" and was internationally ridiculed and of course Trump infamously branded news he did not like as "fake news", to the utter detriment of news across the globe, not just in the US.

But that's pretty much exactly what's happening here with this case. Facts were presented in court during a highly publicised trial in which no-one could deny that the chips were stacked against Rittenhouse due to the media circus, but ultimately those facts did not support the charges.

A lot of people are ignoring all that and continuing to present "alternative facts" about both Rittenhouse, the incident, and the court case.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200807#Comment_118200807

Hard to swing a chain and pull a gun at the same time lol

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200707#Comment_118200707

You have no idea what what happened, do you? Here’s a little bit of the sworn testimony of the 3rd person Rittenhouse shot

“When you were standing three to five feet from him with your arms up in the air, he never fired, right?” Chirafisi asked.

“Correct,” Grosskreutz said.

“It wasn't until you pointed your gun at him, advanced on him with your gun, now your hands down, pointed at him, that he fired, right?” Chirafisi said.

“Correct,” Grosskreutz said.

btw, the Twitter loons aren’t getting away with spreading misinformation this time. The majority of responses to a tweet are pointing out the tweeters blatant lies.

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200744#Comment_118200744

Tell me you get your news from Woke Twitter without telling me you get your news from Woke Twitter.

conorhal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118199450#Comment_118199450

Submit to the mob.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118199450#Comment_118199450

SUBMIT TO THE MOB!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200329#Comment_118200329

SUBMIT TO THE MOB!!!

How about no, how about the mob take responsibility for the consequences of their own actions.

conorhal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200744#Comment_118200744

This reminds me of that infamous Pauline Kale quote, on learning that Richard Nixon was elected she said, "How did this happen? I literally don't know a single person that voted for him!"

Bubble-think.

Strazdas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200602#Comment_118200602

It would be up to the Gardai or riot police to protect people and property in that situation. A "concerned citizen" showing up in the middle of this with an automatic weapon is clearly going to escalate things and make the situation much more dangerous.

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118200988#Comment_118200988

What do you do if the riot police don't arrive because the mayor doesn't want the political optics of asking the other-team guy to send them?

Strazdas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118201004#Comment_118201004

His defenders here have admitted he was attacked and became a target for rioters. So, far from acting as a deterrent, his carrying of a weapon escalated the violence even further, resulting in people being shot dead.

He didn't 'keep the peace', the opposite in fact.