Superman is bisexual now!

storker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008101#Comment_118008101

I remember one death scene where some snotty brat (I think) got chewed up my Old One Eye, the tyrannosaur matriarch. The bloody bits were censored out by a caption saying in effect that Tharg (remember him?) had determined that this particular death was too grisly to be viewed by humans who lacked the capacity to deal with it. It seemed like a nod to "Nurse on duty during all performances" or mandatory blood pressure check notices at screenings of some 1950s horror movies.

heavydemon

It's hardly breaking news. I've seen him bending pipes before.

Donald Trump

I don't get this kind of stuff at all. He's a cartoon character. What is the point of making up what his sexual preferences should be? What difference does it make at all to whatever he would be doing such as fighting the evil villains or whatever the stories are.

Next week, a new comic book for your kids which will detail how wonder woman is a divil for the oul' "up the bum".

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008358#Comment_118008358

I think the reason for people being annoyed is that it's a symptom of a bigger problem, namely that it seems to be the latest instalment of an agenda that continues to be forced on everyone these days. That everything needs to be less white, less straight, and less male.

And it's this obvious agenda that I object to, rather than the actual example, in this case Superman being Bi. Nobody really cares if he's Bi. It's more objectionable that somebody felt the need to add this new twist.

EmmetSpiceland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008204#Comment_118008204

Missed that, D. Apologies, but I would never call you “a liar” or say that you are lying.

I just find it, very, surprising that someone who holds, certain, shall we say, “strong beliefs”, such as yourself, would encounter so many gay, bi, trans or POC on a, near, daily basis. Especially ones who would align with these, aforementioned, “beliefs”.

But, let’s face it, I’m credulous as hell so I, as I said, I wouldn’t dare say it was a “lie”.

Retr0gamer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008382#Comment_118008382

What's the big deal. There's enough white, straight, male media out there. What's so wrong with exploring something new? It could be an interesting angle to take. Why shoot it down when you literally have no context, I very much doubt you are following the comics and are just lashing out in ignorance of it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008267#Comment_118008267

Thats absolutely not a slur. The alphabet community refers to the ever-changing acronym which is hard to keep track of which includes pretty much everyone who is not straight.

That is not an insult.

I've not once said, nor has anyone else said, that there is concern about what will happen to children.

The whole premise of this thread was to highlight the absurdity that a superhero having sexual preferences was newsworthy or brave. That is not morality grandstanding. I think that you are projecting what you assume is my motive onto me rather than dealing with what I actually said.

AllForIt

A bi-sexual Lex Luthor wold be much more plausible than Superman

https://comicicons.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/lex-luthor-gene-hackman.jpg

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008394#Comment_118008394

I guess it's not really a big deal. I am not the target market. I will not be paying money for it. I am just an old fart who gets irritated at the notion that the writers think they are being edgy and cool with this. As if they are enlightening the bigots who need cultural re-education.

Retr0gamer

There's plenty of non-straight people out there and their sexual identity doesn't affect their ability to do their job. Why can't super heroes also be non-straight.

DC has done some pretty great stuff modernising it's IP recently. Transforming Batgirl into a normal modern social media and selfie obsessed woman has been very refreshing.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008388#Comment_118008388

Well my daughter is a "POC" so I encounter her on a daily basis, I have two cousins who are gay and I am very close to both of them and contact them on a daily basis and in their circle of friends, they have a couple of trans people who I meet semi regularly when I socialise with my cousins.

I'm not sure what beliefs you think I have that would stop me being in contact with them. Perhaps my position that men and women aren't interchangable may rub some trans people / trans advocates the wrong way, but in any conversation I have had with the (admittedly small sample size of) trans people I know, hasn't resulted in any ill feeling.

I think you wrongly assume my beliefs are bigoted.

EmmetSpiceland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008334#Comment_118008334

Doesn’t seem to be much “shrugging and carrying on” in here.

Hopefully we get a Rated R movie somewhere down the line.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008440#Comment_118008440

I agree with they first half. That's kinda my point. Claiming that making a character bisexual is "a bold new direction" is a little condescending.

With regards the second half, didn't batgirl the series bomb due to the over reliance on progressiveness.

Given the importance of this thread topic, it is also worth noting that despite his austere manner, Dredd has always been keenly aware of the sensitivites of so-called outsiders, as proven in Prog 1889 of the Collected Works, Berlin Edition (Trans. Tharg*).

*This means translated by Tharg and nothing more. (So far.) :D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008456#Comment_118008456

Really? I think most of the comments are about how silly and unnecessary it was. Somehow though, people are trying to pass off the general feeling of "why the hell would they bother promoting this" as outrage or upset.

Doctor DooM

Wait til some of the people in this thread find out who Wolverine's been banging lately.

MrStuffins

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058212721/superman-is-bisexual-now

THIS ISN'T NEWSWORTHY!!

Starts a thread about it 😂😂😂

Some people are absolutely obsessed. It's a wonder how these people have room for these thoughts when anyone who has a slightly left-leaning thought is living rent-free in their heads

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008504#Comment_118008504

Oooooh... you've piqued my interest.

Hit me.

conorhal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118007638#Comment_118007638

You'd read that? No you wouldn't. You'd clap on twitter and proclaim it 'stunning and brave' and think no more about it.

I swear to God, the current trend in fiction of pandering to 'shippers' and Rule 34 degenerates is just killing the industy. It appeals to nobody but Tumblr wierdos who are mostly neurotic white women that don't buy comics anway.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118007666#Comment_118007666

"Ploughing" has it been confirmed he is a top?

I always thought Superman had more of a power bottom look about him

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008334#Comment_118008334

The youngest millennials are 25 this year.

Please stop using words you don't know the meaning of.

To prevent yourself from further embarrassment in the future, the buzzword you're looking for in this context is Zoomers.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008416#Comment_118008416

I don't think the writers view it as being "edgy" at all tbh. They haven't changed the orientation of a character as you seem to think... They're literally just having a character being entirely normal and this has weirdly annoyed certain people. In much the same way as Miles Morales annoyed people and I imagine you would have viewed that as some "agenda" as well. But the character was hugely successful and not half as controversial a move as some people thought it was.

The very fact this is getting any negative reaction is more a reflection on the people who view it as some agenda.. Like these are the most tame nefarious agendas ever.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008508#Comment_118008508

The fact that it wasn't newsworthy was the point of the thread.

It was highlighting what passes for news these days and how unnecessary it was. Again, it was worth a conversation I thought. Perhaps not.

The outrage that you seem to think people are indulging in is only in your head.

interlocked

The concept of Judge Dredd is largely based on the Christian Brothers who taught Pat Mills in Ipswich.

https://patmills.wordpress.com/tag/judge-dredd/

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008511#Comment_118008511

I was mostly being flippant, but yeah I think it'd be pretty interesting to check out. Not in a Rule 34 way, but if it was from a legitmate DC comic, it'd be pretty significant.

And I wouldn't post on Twitter at all because while I have a twitter account to follow others, I don't engage in stuff like that because it's an absolute cesspit when it comes to actually discussing anything. I don't even like or retweet stuff (aside from the odd comedy thing).

Is it my turn to cast aspersions on you or what I think you'd do, or can we be grown-ups instead?

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008510#Comment_118008510

Spoiler Warning

It's been heavily implied over the years that Wolverine, Cyclops and Jean Grey are in a poly relationship with each other.

MrStuffins

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008553#Comment_118008553

If that was the case, the thread title would be contain something relating to news, or newsworthiness, or something about journalistic standards.

But you even included an exclamation mark in the thread title, it's quite clear what you wanted to talk about.

You felt it newsworthy enough that you wanted to start a discussion thread on the subject, and now you're claiming you wanted to talk about journalistic standards 😂

Absolutely obsessed! 😂😂😂

Doctor DooM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008510#Comment_118008510

Jean Grey AND Cyclops.

And he pretty much implied Colossus too.

Which is nothing new. The faux outrage over sexuality in comics is hilarious. There's a lack of knowledge on the history pf the medium. For decades, writers have been trying to slide more realistic depictions of human sexuality into comics and have come afoul of many parties interested in stopping them (sometimes the comics code, sometimes editorial, of late there has been corporate interests in both the big two). It's not woke saying a kid might be bi- which is all this is- it's just reality, and comics always need to appeal to the modern youth instead of appealing to 40 year old neck beards who want all of culture to stay the same as when they were kids. They have to stay relevant and keep reinventing. The reality is, the version of Superman that people are harping on about now only existed because people changed from another form in the 40s and 50s. They see their own snapshot in time as immutable.

Nearly every long running comic you'll find some subtextual queer stuff that's snuck in because of this. But the X-Men in particular has been a hotbed of it, which if you think about the idea of them, should be no surprise. Their entire reason to be is to represent oppressed minority in all forms.

Whether they succeed or not is another argument altogether.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008572#Comment_118008572

Fair enough chief. If that's your take on it, have at it.

I thought I made it abundantly clear but apparently I didn't.

What do you think my obsession is though?