Kin - RTE & AMC

Niall_76

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120590340#Comment_120590340

Also showed Amanda being jealous. I think she has something to do with Molly’s disappearance.

Princess Calla

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120590692#Comment_120590692

I don't know, maybe a big bribe to get Molly out of the picture? It's not implausible.

I always wondered if maybe Anna shot the mother.

Mickey comes home, high on whatever leaves the gun on the table and passes out. Anna would have been toddler age, picked up the gun and fired it accidentally hitting the mother. Mickey then took the fall for it. Anna too young to remember/blocked it out. ...that's my theory anyway.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120590692#Comment_120590692

It'd be an interesting angle if Amanda did 'have a word', but seems like that would have (should have!) been shown on screen over the course of season 2.

Goldengirl

Yes maybe it is off the wall as a theory , lol, but its such an annoying plot hole not knowing what actually happened to Molly and where the mother and Jen went !

They talked more about it this season so hopefully next time all will be explained .

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120590692#Comment_120590692

Yes she is very possessive of him , and she appeared a little off kilter going on about the mystery pregnancy so maybe she is going off the rails a bit ?

A lot to contend with , losing a son , running a business, never mind it a being a major drug empire , dealing with aggression from Bren and Jimmy after a miscarriage , beloved only son getting involved in murder and criminality , ..be enough to drive a woman over the edge I would think .

NIMAN

Just got round to watching S2. Never started it when it was airing weekly, having thought S1 was just good. Not great, just good.

But must say I enjoyed S2. Overall a solid show. Of course a bit clichéd in parts, but it's only a tv show, it can bend reality a wee bit.

A poor man's Love Hate perhaps, but that did set the bar very high tbf.

I will miss my drone shots of the Aviva.

Agent Coulson

The production company behind Kin has gone into bankruptcy and with the writers and actors strike the show is probably dead now.

Agent Coulson

Double post.

OmegaGene

From what I’ve read online series 3 was already filmed with the fourth planned but that could be nonsense

RobbingBandit

Season 2 and 3 were filmed back to back so they do indeed have it ready to go.

RobbingBandit

Jesus the last strike in the US killed off dozens of great TV shows, I can't find fault in the 99% of writers and actors on strike fighting for a fairer deal but f off to the rich and famous pounding the pavements for the publicity take a page out of Tony Sopranos book, James Gandolfini took a whopper amount off a pay hike from David Chase and HBO back in early 2000s and divided it up to his fellow cast and crew the man was a legend.

Agent Coulson

Yeah season 3 was filmed and season 4 was due to begin filming in September when Daredevil was finished so Charlie would have been able to do both.

Can RTE & AMC find another big international production company to take it on the strike could effect that.

JohnFalstaff

As said previously in this thread, Season 3 was never filmed. Despite some planted news stories to the contrary.

Dodge

The American strike wouldn’t affect Irish writers either btw. There’s no disruption to (say) BBC or ITV productions for example

Agent Coulson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120878037#Comment_120878037

Peter McKenna is the only writer on the show and if he isn’t a member of the US writers Guild then he can write to his hearts content

However the strike would affect this series as it is a co production with a US Network so any of the actors on the show that are members of SAG-AFTRA would not be able to work on it unless they had a waiver to work on it.

Charile Cox, Adian Gillen, Emmett Scanlan, Maria Doyle Kennedy & Sam Keeley are all regulars on US series so they would all be members of the actors union.

The Moist Buddha

sad to see it go as the 2nd season was miles above 1st season and a 3rd would probably have been better again .

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120877805#Comment_120877805

It's not just a matter of finding a company to take it on. The big question would be about who owns the intellectual property of what has been filmed to date. If the company that owns the IP has gone bust, the receiver will be trying to sell that IP to the highest bidder.

Gadgetman496

Smash hit TV show Kin was missing from RTE's autumn lineup in a major blow to fans as concerns grow for the drama after the production firm filed for bankruptcy.

Slydice

Might be life in it still..

RTÉ provide update on future of Kin amid fears show might never return

https://www.joe.ie/movies-tv/kin-rte-780905

However, RTÉ said they are "still working" on getting the show back on the air and are "hopeful" that season 3 will come to the broadcaster.

RTÉ revealed their autumn schedule on Monday, with fan favorite Kin notably missing from the line-up.

"RTÉ would very much like KIN to return and continues to work with our international partners to make it happen," a spokesperson told the Irish Daily Mirror.

"We hope to have a further update in relation to season 3 in the coming months."

Homesick Alien

Just watched the finale last night having watched the rest of the season as it screened (life stuff got in the way). Have to say I forgot how good it was. It was as good an hour of TV as I've seen in a while. Not perfect, but bloody entertaining.

Gadgetman496

Kin star Yasmin Seky said she has kept her day job at the bank admitting she has no idea if the show will return.

The future of the RTE show was placed in doubt earlier this year after Bron Studios, the production company and financiers of the hit series, filed for bankruptcy. While reports previously suggested that season three is already in the bag, Yasmin confirmed no filming has taken place and she has no idea if or when it will.

The budding actor, who made her screen debut playing Nikita Murphy in the hit series, told the Irish Daily Mirror: “I have no idea where people got that idea [that it is already filmed], but no we didn’t. Initially, it had been greenlit, but I'm not sure if Peter [McKenna] has written anything yet, but we definitely didn’t film it back to back.”

Kerry2021

Watched season 1 of Kin when it first came out and currently trying to watch season 2. It’s obviously not that bad but I feel it could have been an awful lot better. My main issues with it are:

the Bran character reminds me of Negan from “the walking dead”. He’s just a total caricature of a bad guy. He just comes across as a cheesy bad guy to me. Viking’s character then seems to be some sort of Pound Shop knock off version of Conor McGregor. It’s not the actors fault but Vikings character can sometimes be very cringe and not easy to watch.

then there’s the 2 middle aged women involved in the gang. I don’t find them to be believable characters either, birdie never really does anything of interest.

Aidan Gillen is one of my favourite Irish actors and his character is pretty bland too. Then the 2 main guys, played by Charlie Cox and the other guy with the pony tail just don’t hit the nail on the head either. Nothing wrong with any of their acting but I just think the casting of the show got it all wrong with the family.

I know the TV show is for American audiences so that explains a lot as regards the casting but the main family all seem like either students or professors at Trinity more so than being leaders of the biggest drugs gang in the country.

Normal People (for those of you that may have watched it) had a bit about Trinity students in it, imagine if they’d taken Aido, Elmo and all them fellas from Love/Hate and tried pass them off as trinity students. It’s the opposite of that that’s happened in Kin.

I guess I had very high expectations for Kin and personally I didn’t feel they were met. The main family seem more like a crowd that would be running a chain of fancy pubs that sell craft beers and restaurants that sell vegan burgers.

PTH2009

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121253976#Comment_121253976

That bank must be popular

brian_t

Season one has been acquired by the BBC.

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2023/1027/1413395-kin-to-screen-on-bbc-one-following-irish-success/

mickdw

Surely a major boost in terms of further seasons being filmed

Galwayguy35

Seems like the BBC saved their arses because RTE is in no position to pump cash into it.

NIMAN

So are bbc funding a 3rd series?

lumphammer2

Let's hope BBC or someone funds it ... we need season 3 and 4 to happen as promised ... Hidden Assets 2 and The Gone are no compensation and are the usual police procedural stuff that are generally not done well on Irish TV ... I like Obituary though ... better than any current Sunday night shows ... back to Kin ... Kin esp season 2 is one of the best ... and we need to have more of it ...

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121300249#Comment_121300249

What are you basing that on?

Nothing to suggest BBC funding new episodes, just airing already filmed seasons. Maybe the rights were going cheap or freed up after the financial issue with production company.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121300482#Comment_121300482

I thought Obituary was awful paddywhackery, clearly aimed at the US market with close to leprechaun Irish stereotypes.

Dodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121300969#Comment_121300969

It was nothing of the sort.

It’s a completely different show in every single way so shouldn’t be compared to Kin at all IMO

But it certainly wasn’t paddywhackery

OmegaGene

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121300249#Comment_121300249

bbc wont fund series 3 of kin they outsource most of their dramas as it is

Loughc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121300249#Comment_121300249

BBC arent funding anything for Kin.

lumphammer2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121301292#Comment_121301292

Obituary was very different to Kin but had one thing in common ... it was good in my view ... it was different and not the usual run of the mill stuff ... I feel it was relegated to the Tuesday night slot but deserved the 'prime' Sunday evening slot ... why Sunday evening is prime don't ask me ... i'd go with Saturday or Friday but they are taken up with those chat shows traditionally ... much more than those dramas that do ... Kin and Love/Hate excused of course ...

I feel Irish shows when the baddie is the lead make more interesting viewing that when a good cop is the lead ... Hidden Assets was poor and The Gone is prob more of the same ... and remember Taken Down which was more of the same with an Amy Hubermann style cop? ... police procedural dramas on RTE are not exactly my thing and police orientated dramas are fair boring in Ireland ... same goes for said Amy and her Striking Out solicitor Tara character ... all in all it is better having a Nidge or a Bren anyday ...

Obituary is recommended ... look forward to the last episode tonight ... it is not paddy-whackery ... also Clean Sweep last year was decent ... one thing all of these ... Love/Hate Kin Obituary Clean Sweep ... have in common is ... the baddie)s) is (are) the lead character(s) .... that does not mean that characters like Nidge, the Kinsellas, Elvira, etc. are out and out evil ... they are flawed and have evil tendencies but also have good in them ... which all serves to make them more interesting than those wooden cops in Hidden Assets, Acceptable Risk, Taken Down and prob The Gone ...

Dodge

FWIW I loved Obituary. I was just pointing out you can’t compare it to Kin (or any of the crime/police shows)

freshpopcorn

Apparently it's not back until 2025.

https://www.thesun.ie/tv/11569522/rte-kin-new-season-date-revealed-rewrite-delays-bbc/

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121311074#Comment_121311074

I'm not even sure it says that.

Nowhere does it actually state RTE or anyone have decided to produce a third season.

It seems to say, well, if they wanted to, they wouldn't be able to do so until Charlie Cox completes his other commitments.

rob316

They should just leave it, season 2 was a huge improvement on Season 1 and went out on a real high. Bren and Frank are gone

Agent Coulson

Not just Charlie Cox,

Aidian Gillian, Maria Kennedy Doyle, Emmett Scanlan & Sam Keely are all working on other shows for American Networks and I'd be pretty sure those series will take priority over Kin even thought AMC is showing it in the States.

lumphammer2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121304429#Comment_121304429

Obituary was good ... for those very reasons ... it was different ... you cannot compare it to Kin or to Love/Hate ... because it was different ... it is a show that does deserve a second series and a higher profile .... much better than Hidden Assets aka Acceptable Risk, The Gone, Striking Out or Taken Down ...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121311170#Comment_121311170

Kin series 2 improved on series 1 and ended with one of the great finales ... but then again series 3 of Love/Hate improved on series 2 ... one thing for sure is that the stuff they are showing now on Sundays is no substitute for either L/H or Kin ... having a Tom Vaughn Lawlor lookalike doing a cop on The Gone does not make it Love/Hate .... and Hidden Assets never scratched the surface of the Limerick gangland scene ... a drama true to the spirit of Kin or L/H concentrating on that would be great though ...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121311085#Comment_121311085

RTE are able to waste money on endless amounts of poor dramas like Acceptable Risk aka Hidden Assets, Rebellion, Taken Down, Striking Out, Trouble in Paradise, The Big Bow Wow, etc. over the years .... I am sure they could save a lot of money by not making these and making better dramas like Kin all the time ....

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121311178#Comment_121311178

I thought season 3 of Kin was already made ... that was what was said ... who is telling the truth here?? ... whatever way this is a series and is a type of series people want to see ... but in the meantime we will prob get another Amy Huberman series to keep us (not) amused ...

OmegaGene

strong rumours online that it was already filmed but if the company hit the wall financially then it is messy, one of the actresses said it has not been filmed and she is working away at her 9-5 in a bank, just a waiting game i guess

Gadgetman496

Irish star Emmett J Scanlan said he "can’t wait" for viewers to see his new Netflix thriller, in which he stars alongside Michelle Keegan.

The Kin star, best known for playing Jimmy Kinsella in the hit RTE show, announced his new role will see him star alongside the former Coronation Street star in a new Harlan Coben thriller for Netflix called Fool Me Once.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5611024/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_cl_sm

Herxules

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121256981#Comment_121256981

It's turned into a sperm bank.

Cape Clear

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121311170#Comment_121311170

Bren saved it. Season one was like watching paint dry. Killing Bren off also killed off the series in my view.

OmegaGene

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121333213#Comment_121333213

Totally agree and if they make another one it will be lacking the much needed devil type character

mickdw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121333295#Comment_121333295

You are not giving the writers any credit.

I'm sure they can develop a few more series. It was only getting started but had got going very nicely indeed. Love hate was further along before it became really good.

OmegaGene

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121333763#Comment_121333763

it is okay to have different opinions, i do not think it will be back considering the budget needed and the company behind the financial side of it went to the wall, rte won't finance it because they are barely keeping the lights on.

love hate gets brought up a lot in this thread as a comparison but apart from them being based in ireland i do not see much of a connection but maybe that's just me.

brian_t

Starts on BBC 1 on Saturday 18th November at 9.35pm.

Episode 2 follows the News at 10.45pm.

Episodes 3 and 4 are on the following Tuesday at 10.40pm.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001snk8

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120878081#Comment_120878081

Co-production with a Canadian network but you’ve got to assume that all such companies north of the border are tied in with the US strike.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121344519#Comment_121344519

Random scheduling!

Snippet from the Radio Times on it:

Look out for Game of Thrones alumni Aidan Gillen and Ciarán Hinds in Kin, an eight-part Irish gangland thriller coming to BBC1 soon. The drama pits local crime family the Kinsellas against global cartel the Cunninghams in a David and Goliath blood feud.

brian_t

Second season coming soon to BBC1

https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/2024/kin-series-2-bbc