Interesting articles

roadmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122617686#Comment_122617686

I understand there is some amount of fighting within in the defence forces to who will operate the system weather its the Army or Air corps. There was even a suggestiin that the Fisheries control center in cork ckukd be upgraded to do it.

It will be major project for the defence forces and it will also be interesting if the information the system gathers will be shared back to our EU friends in real time

sparky42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122618619#Comment_122618619

yeah, given the scale of the single investment a gunfight over who gets it should be expected, but the timeframe I suppose is more important…

Larbre34

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122617686#Comment_122617686

That description has no meaning in EU procurement law.

Pre-Tender, Tender, Post-Tender, Evaluation, Pre-award, Award, (Appeal), Contract. Those are the stages.

Unlike land planning considerations, there is no exemption from EU procurement for defence, although there is a protocol to protect national security considerations which obviates some of the sensitive stuff, which would otherwise be public information and subject to FoI etc.

The protocol, Directive EU/2009/81/EC, is operated in Irish statute as the European Union (Award of Contracts Related to Defence and Security) Regulations, 2012.

To me 'acquisition' means getting hands on something, ie contract being executed, which is certainly not imminent.

roadmaster

I see on the business post the defence forces are tendering for hotel rooms in dublin due to lack of on base accomdation.

If said it before the below is ideal for defence forces members espcially ones under 30. It would be a great recruitment offering decent accomadion as part of the package.

https://rathmineshouse.com/

jonnybigwallet

Tis very expensive….

Larbre34

This is the wrong attitude. Yes, the intention is to be temporary, but really not enough force is being put behind a massive on-base accommodation project, for single servicemen and families also. On all barracks and bases nationwide.

It could kill many birds with one stone.

Grassy Knoll

Throw a ball of money at Haulbowline, there are a bunch of derelict buildings there that should be refurbished. Currently it seems the work there is being done piecemeal,ditto the Curragh where there is room for greenfield work

sparky42

So it’s behind the Times paywall, but they are reporting we have a sitting TD that is an active Russian asset, having been recruited before the war by the embassy intelligence staff… He’s being watched by both Garda and military intelligence the article says.

They aren’t naming names for fear of legal actions, anyone want to play a guessing game?

roadmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122689206#Comment_122689206

Connections to paramilitarys should narrow the field to who it is i taught turns out he was bluffing. The below taken from the London Times:

When a meeting held outside Dublin was monitored, their suspicions were confirmed: Cobalt offered to do whatever he could to assist the spy, despite never having engaged with paramilitaries in his career

sparky42

so something from the Mirror regarding the potential purchase of a new Air Defence system. I know we have used the RBS 70, but why constrain ourselves to a system that has only one other user?

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/defence-forces-multi-million-missile-33831300?

mupper2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122690749#Comment_122690749

It's an option not the certainty.

sparky42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122691020#Comment_122691020

I get that, just not sure why it’s one of the options? I mean it has one other user with very limited development and an open question on how long Sweden will use it for, unless they are looking at their own replacement and we are thinking second hand?

On foot of your comment about the rumour of a French armour buy, why not consider throwing that in as well, the French would be more than happy for more orders and likely give us a good package deal…

mupper2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122691057#Comment_122691057

The French offer does seem to include everything bar the kitchen sink at the Élysée palace, vehicles, radars, sonars etc…so possible.

sparky42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122691132#Comment_122691132

there are plenty worse to get in with, and when you look at some of the Arms deals that the French have with other European nations we could come out well equipped from a deal if there was the will to sign off on a deal.

Though maybe an Irish Navy FDI or two might be pushing it…/jk

Larbre34

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122689206#Comment_122689206

As I understand it, they are saying parliamentarian, not TD, so it could be either House.

I have a couple of suspects, but I won't get into libelling people on here, lets see how it plays out.

Larbre34

Meanwhile, our good friends in the RNZN have had a disaster befall them, with the loss as a consequence of grounding, of support ship HMNZS Manawanui. It was conducting a survey of a reef off Samoa at the time.

All 75 crew are thankfully accounted for, but the ship was consumed by fire and sank, presumably a total loss.

No doubt the investigation will be painful for a few.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ced0wlqnvlno

mupper2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122690749#Comment_122690749

Seems the article got a it of crossed wires going on, the primary radar and the MR-SAM project are 2 separate programs.

Larbre34

If it hadn't got its wires crossed, it probably would have been first Irish print article not to.

Larbre34

However, speaking of Commonwealth mishaps, Saturday just gone was the 20th anniversary of the HMCS Chicoutimi incident, off the coast of Mayo.

If anyone doesn't know the story it makes interesting reading.

Apart from the damage to the newly pennanted RCN boat, the weather conditions caused serious hurt to the bow of LÉ Róisín, as well as to HM Ships Montrose and Northumberland, whose speedy characteristics were not suited to the mountainous sea.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/spotlight/arid-41488778.html

roadmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122690749#Comment_122690749

The Articles floating around say the air defence system will be using the new lamd based radar system. These misiles are used for local point defence so will it not also need a mobile radar system?

mupper2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122694646#Comment_122694646

The article conflated 2 separate projects the primary/surveillance radar is a thing on its own, the MR-SAM will the whole system radar/TELs etc. There is also if not a formal program yet a real want for a mobile MANPAD/SHORAD system

Larbre34

And if TPY-4 is chosen, it is effective both as a fixed and mobile system.

So for instance you could have 3 or 4 fixed installations under domes and another handful of towed units to complement them, or deploy to fresh territory, such as on UN duty or with the EU Battlegroups.

mupper2

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