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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭mightyreds


    3.5k cases roughly with 28 admitted to hospital whats it like at the minute here?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57


    Multiple reports that these restrictions are needed so "schools can open". Yet again these pricks are threatening us that, essentially, if we insist on drinking alcohol they will remove our childrens education!


    **** every single last one of these pricks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    And the reason they're saying that is because it's the one thing Micheal Martin committed to when he took office (reopen the schools and keep them open).

    He's fixated on it as it's about the only thing he's achieved - aside from his primary and overriding goal of becoming Taoiseach that is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭the kelt


    You have to ask the question

    Whats the only scenario where NPHET will be happy or even content?

    Its basically looking now like its zero COVID is their policy but thats not possible for our island so restriction forever really until COVID disappears.

    That literally looks like the plan cos theres no semblance of any other plan



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    It's complete insanity that we've reached an extent of shutting down hospitality, sport and travel in order to maintain children's ability to make a few christmas cards and watch Home Alone in those pointless end of term days where the teacher is just running down the clock most of the time.

    The lack of desire among parents for kids to attend those days is so great that most principals reckon less than half will even attend next week. Yet Micheál still insists on opening them, it's crazy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Classic good cop, bad cop play by the govt...

    Bad cop - NPHET (close at 5pm)

    Good cop - Govt (close at 9/10pm)


    Its fcuking pathetic....

    We will have the state mouthpiece RTE and scare byrne getting onto publicans etc about how relieved they must be now that the govt has saved them...

    Psychological bollexology....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Resistance is futile. Our Christmas is not happening now, was to be three households (incl us) and two gangs positive today. Isolate for 10 days.

    Anyone want to buy a monster turkey lol.

    As long as they are alright and don't get too sick, that's all that matters. All double jabbed but not boosted yet in the sick contingent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Tony Manero


    Psycho by name, psycho by nature? It would seem so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭MilkyToast


    You are gonna be eating turkey curry for months.

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    Yeah reading anecdotal stories from London and seems hard not to end up with it if you're anywhere near it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Seems like MM is getting pushback from his own party on it. I do find it amazing how there hasn't been a leadership challenge



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    London cases are kicking off, 23k cases yesterday, over 50% of them are omicron, 9k was the average last week for comparison, hospitalisations increasing slightly also



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,719 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I don't really know because I don't believe a lot of the FF TD's would be one's for buying into these restrictions.

    However they might be hoping to keep their seat next time around by telling the pensioner's they kept them safe because its the only way I can see people voting for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,680 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Ha! Nah, you replied at 1am...I was catching zeds.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Just in case anybody is wondering about timelines today, the party leaders are meeting NPHET at midday (ongoing as I speak) and the covid sub-comittee is meeting at 1:30. Presumably there will be an address to the nation at about 6pm by our fearless leader



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,748 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    But seriously, what else would you expect from career medics like these?

    If the government were to go on the advice of medics for everything, then you could imagine the type of policy government would have suggested for them... No cars, no alcohol, no cigarettes, no activity with a degree of risk.. mountain biking, paragliding, sky jumping etc etc any physical contact in sport would be heavily questioned etc etc

    The issue here is that government has got itself into a knot whereby these medics are the sole source of advice. There's no balance whatsoever.

    That's before you get into the personality stuff. Tony Holohan has his own axes to grind and he's grinding them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,748 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Too late. They are all squirming now worried about their seats. They should have been pushing back last Spring when summer was being taken away again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,991 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Martins slow opening policy from the summer is coming back to bite him now. He should have opened up during the summer once all the over 60's and other vulnerable people were vaccinated. The failure to do that has led to this position. Time now for Martin to stand up and say no more restrictions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    I don't Iike your phraseology😁 but why are they messing with hospitality so much ?


    This whole thing puts me off government.

    I've got idiots controlling my life



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian



    Lisa Chambers, Barry Cowan, Dilly O Wee and Regina Doherty all publicly opposed to these changes



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    The opposition have not opposed any measures either. SF can be high in the polls, and good luck to them but they are playing along with every restriction too, unless they have a different Covid restriction policy that I am unaware of. Same goes for Labour and Independents, PBP, Soc Dems etc.

    So there is no point getting angry, as I have already said resistance is futile.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    It's high time in this country that a Taoiseach publicly addressed the nation and put the gauntlet down to the HSE. You've 2 years to get the healthcare system sorted or we're privatising the whole lot. Time the head honchos had the gauntlet thrown down to them. Look at what we spend on health (6th highest in the OECD per capita) and look at the shít we get for our money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Hopefully this is the straw that breaks the camels back then

    A SF led government would have implemented more widespread antigen testing and probably would have improved the quality of our hospitals so they probably wouldn't have needed these latest restrictions as we would be in a better place COVID-wise now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Be careful of the tricks NPHET are up to. Remember the summer? They said close indoor dining unless the Government introduce the vaccine pass.

    Some people and TD’s calling for ‘boosted only’ allowed to socialise…so another little section of society - the doubly vaccinated shut out despite stepping forward for two shots…and possibly their age groups not being called yet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    This booster nonsense is beyond a joke now

    Young people getting vaccinated again 3 months after the last for something they probably don't even notice



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭noraos


    ''In his opening speech the Health Minister, Simon Harris TD, inspired the delegates to do the right thing and join Ireland in their important journey toward stronger alcohol policies. He described the extent of alcohol industry lobbying and media pressure to oppose the Public Health (Alcohol) Act and the important role played by civil society in ensuring its passage: “When the public health lobby get together, we can achieve great things,” Harris said.''

    This is why they are messing with hospitality.. I sound like a CT nut now.. but clearly there is an agenda against pubs and licensed premises..

    PS they was held in March 2020, 340 attended from 47 countries. What the actual FK.. and 1st of March they shut a school down for 14 days.. so covid was very much here

    “When the public health lobby get together, we can achieve great things,” Harris said.'' this line here sounds so ominous! - actually kind of scary considering the amount of power they have now..

    "To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all."-Oscar Wilde



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Yes, they need another divide and conquer strategy now. The unvaccinated are yesterday's pin a tail on the donkey.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭redlad12


    I agree with all your post except I feel like throughout the pandemic Sinn Fein have always leaned on actually tightening restrictions. The politicians will base all these decisions on opinion polls and flip flop as much as they have to in order to stay in or gain power.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo


    Harris is a Soc Dem is FG clothes, zero time for him. No interest in hard decisions or responsibility



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