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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    It will reduce social activities for certain groups of people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,104 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    The harsh reality is hospitality was already restricted by stealth, I spoke to some staff who'd already had hours cut, back on PUP etc, the sector was already limping along and even if no further restrictions were implemented, business closures were Gaurenteed come January and permanently.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You'd probably stick to the narrative, too, if you were well paid off to do so 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,104 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Meanwhile Morning Ireland gave it 10 minutes, now they are covering a By Election result in the UK 🙄

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,613 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    This will be the death knell of FF if they let this pass. But they won’t they’ll “argue” the common man’s case and get it pushed to 9pm or some bollox and think they save face.

    Absolute chancers the lot of them. Sick of it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    It's trying to sneak in another lockdown is what it is. All because Holohan (who we know has a crusade against alcohol) is trying to shut down after work socialising in the week before Christmas.

    I would suggest though that anyone who has had enough start mailing their TDs and the senior members of Government with their views this morning before the meeting happens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,424 ✭✭✭✭km79




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,900 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    What a stupid post.

    Go a few weeks without it? They've been closed for over a year!

    I get the impression that the nutters that actually applaude these measures and ask for more are people that are in no way affected by closures.

    I bet if you kept going back to work, losing your job, going back to work, losing your job, signing on, signing off, signing on you'd be raging.

    Covid has been a blessing for the anti social brigade, they get to hope that society never goes back to normal. And as if to think that a variant which is being proven to be less dangerous is going to piss off after the 9/01.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭The HorsesMouth


    Yet again they target the young working generation.

    Closing bars at 5pm and now having to isolate if you haven't got your booster jab. All very cozy for the over 60s who mostly don't socialise in a bar and who've had the booster.

    Same thing that happened in the summer, they were all allowed eat indoors before the under 40s.

    Who are we trying to protect here??? Restricting the young to protect the old...

    It's a **** joke..I'm sick to my back teeth of them. This is the time to grow a pair and government need to stand up and be counted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,090 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Was in the pub a couple weeks back, place was dead, nobody is going to them, these proposals will do nothing for tackling the spread of the virus. The virus will continue to do what virus's do.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    With this one in the UK, it the health system. If they get their tsunami a small proportion of a very big number will end up in hospital and they do have a lot of unvaccinated in places where it can let rip. In our case it's an assumption that something similar may happen but we are not Britain and it's still unknown. That said I applaud the genius of NPHET in finding new ways not to exactly recommend shutting down industries! It remains to be seen whether the government will back them but a week before Christmas and the "horror" of Omicron to come they'll probably embrace all of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    Well there's a lot of unhappy people for no reason so haha



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,090 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Says a lot about you that you find it funny people's livelihoods are going up in smoke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    Don't forget FG and the Greens. Never, ever, voting for any of them ever again. A government of Independents would have some f'ing common sense at least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    London has 2.7m unvaccinated and 32% of the over 60s in places. We are not London nor the UK which only has 80% of its eligible population vaccinated. I'm not sure courageous is the word as they are working off yet another set of, most likely wrong, projections.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,275 ✭✭✭Quags


    Jaysus lads if the recommendations are accepted & nobody fights then as a nation are screwed. This all started when publicans agreed to the €9 meal, I understand they wanted to reopen and get cash but if they stuck together and said no the Gov could have backed down instead the Gov have them where they want & can keep bringing in stupid rules



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    But what you said makes no sense. You're saying no one is going the pub. They are. It will effect spread of virus due to this fact.

    Relax on the "says a lot about you" stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,561 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    January lockdown on the way it would seem, maybe even the same Christmas period announcement like last year.

    Will we be left with inter County travel this time?

    I'd say Tony Holohan would love to see the 2km restrictions from March 2020 back.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Its not just pubs btw as that's what everyone is posting. It'd restaurants, cinemas, theatres etc too.

    Youre basically banned from going for a drink, going to eat in a restaurant, going to see a film etc for as long as this is in effect. I'm not sure it's even worth opening to 5 for a lot of those industries. I'd assume any restaurant is booked out for all of Christmas at this stage as you're pissing a lot of people off there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    This is exactly who it is.

    People who are still on full pay, have a mortgage or have it nearly paid off, saving on the commute or childcare, and who don't particularly like work colleagues and would work from home indefinitely, don't go out much anymore and whose friends are long settled and busy with their own families are not really bothered what happens in the pub (as its rare they set foot in one), or cinema (as they watch everything on Netflix).

    Now, in all honesty, aside from the mortgage (and that I actually like most of my colleagues), I would fit all of those criteria except for one important difference - I can absolutely see the damage it's doing to those businesses and the people who own/are employed in them, to say nothing of the knock on effect to suppliers and society as a whole. I may not get out much anymore, but I like to have the choice and I appreciate how important it is.

    More than that, I'm disgusted again by the lack of opposition (except among the general public and hospitality industry) to this "strategy" of bouncing in and out of varying degrees of restrictions because NPHET have been given too much weight, and Micheal Martin and Leo are either incapable of making a decision (in the case of the former), or obsessed with the affect it might have on his twitter account (in the case of the latter).

    All this for something that has never been a real threat to the majority of the population here, and where the latest variant is even milder by all reports.

    It's absolutely nonsense at this point. It's like living under the Church - don't believe in it, know it doesn't make sense and a lot of what goes on is wrong and immensely damaging, but still turn up every Sunday proclaiming the faith and attacking anyone different as a heretic.

    We have spent so much time as a people being told what to do, that we can't function without it. We handed off Independence to the Church, then when they finally collapsed we handed it to the EU, and now to NPHET. We're the most servile people on the planet.

    Great country we've created isn't it?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    So I was watching England’s CMO yesterday in the briefing and what struck me is that what they are really worried about is not the health system but the the economy itself collapsing in January

    the majority of the population will either have the mild cold symptoms or be self isolating

    most people can carry on with their lives with a cold but due to today’s rules won’t be able to

    economy grinds to a halt



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    Ah now, that means a Libra, gay, married, farmer with a bit of a limp in their 50s could go to the pub almost all week. Hell, if they are trans, they might get all 7 days.

    Don't be so ridiculous!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,900 ✭✭✭✭bear1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,090 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Okay let me rephrase, (its not literally no one going to them) the pubs aren't packed, there are very few customers going, there is limited if any spread associated with pubs, closing them makes no sense giving the restrictions they already have to work to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    It's different in different pubs imo. One of my locals would be very quiet. Other places queues out the door at weekends.

    I think it will break certain chains as I can already see nights out being cancelled so these people will not be meeting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Hospitatlity sector are reaping the benefit now of their utterly useless representation whose only concern was being paid off to shut down, instead of fighting back against this idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    Cases falling for almost 2 weeks, hospitals at their lowest numbers in months . Mental. Lots of people saying how worried the UK are but they still have absolutely zero restrictions on pubs restaurants ect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,090 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Yes true, there will be some busy spots, but the vast majority aren't. Unfortunately its the busy ones that cause 'concern' amongst nphet and attract social media attention.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    I really hope pubs owners,restaurant owners, cinemas etc push back hard on this. All the curtain twitchers with no social life will be loving this as usual



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,748 ✭✭✭✭lawred2




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