Just those 3 pieces of information name, cert type and date, along with a green tick mark (I assume red if it's not valid)
Also the date of vaccination makes no difference, if you were vaccinated yesterday and got your cert today and scanned it, it would be valid. It doesn't seem to do a date check, where technically it's only after 7 or 14 days post second dose where it's valid from etc...
I was there I saw the signs...it wouldn't take much effort to pick out the mad ones
There are pictures too. Loads of them. It turns out people carry cameras all the time these days and they like to take pictures and put them on the internet for all to see.
Anybody who doesn't see the mainstream media disinformation campaign by now is as thick as a brick.
I don't have a tv and I only use the RTE player for the rugby and GAA. What disinformation am I missing?
It's a mistake to normalise an internal passport system.
Unless it is done away with very quickly, it can be expanded to cover anything. We'll soon see.
Came to that conclusion years before any of this started, based on numerous visits, work, wouldn't set foot there otherwise.
It’s not being normalised, it’s temporary
Not looking for a reaction, it’s very true.
People in lower end jobs would rather not work otherwise they’d be off the payment and we wouldn’t have this issue.
Its the same on some building sites and delivery services (I know one of irelands biggest hospitality businesses is suffering massively due to this.) These people are truly showing themselves for who they are
Imagine calling someone an anti-vaxer for being apprehensive about the covid vaccines. It’s like calling someone anti-food because they don’t want to eat a hotdog they found on the ground.
I tend to disagree. I am fully vaccinated and I hate masks and I'm absolutely against the facts&numbers manipulation and fear mongering that has been going on for 16 months now. And most of all dead against these never ending restrictions and the silly overreach micromanagement. I am also rather left leaning and relatively educated.
I wish people would stop this silly my camp your camp stuff and deal with the actual issues at hand instead.
Unfortunately, for the vast majority of people who don't want to share indoor spaces with dirty typhoid-Marys, we have two choices. One is not to open up those spaces and the other is to open up to those who aren't typhoid-Marys. Unfortunately, for the second option, these indoor spaces need a way to tell the regular punters apart from the potentially infectious and taking them at their word just won't cut it.
Talk about a false equivalence.
Its more like someone saying they don’t want to eat in the top restaurant with trained chefs and regular inspections from the food safety authority because someone on the internet once said all their food is hotdogs they found on the ground, and sure the internet is never wrong
Does it feel good to finally feel better than someone else? That’s a dangerous feeling, be careful now. Let’s hope the Typhoid Marys are wrong :)
Also not sure if you’ve heard, vaccinated people can be infectious too.
“Propaganda the executive arm of the invisible Government”
I see RTE news at it again stating 1500 demonstrators turned up at a freedom day protest. Caused traffic chaos as the group moved from the Customs House. I wasn’t part of the protest but from my perspective the numbers present were significantly higher. If you cannot believe our public broadcaster what can you believe. I thought I’d never say it, but Trump’s false news springs to mind.
There is a third option you seem to be forgetting. You just dont go to one of these 'Typhoid Mary' indoor places yourself. Like personal risk assessment and personal responsibility.
u might notice a difference on/after aug 13 packed stadiums in the uk
Anyone that refuses to take the vaccine is selfish and ignorant. It's that simple really.
We'll agree to disagree but perhaps if you don't want to take my word for it, check the stats and facts. I'm not suggesting there are abuses but miniscule and to accuse generally, pup recepients as cheating is wholly unfair. Besides as of today, there are many, many hospitality businesses that have been fully closed for 16 months, staff affected ligitimately claimed and remained on PUP, people cannot be expected to close their PUP on a whim and with such uncertainty.
As an aside, its not just Hospitality or aviation impacted, numerous other businesses, play centre's, bowling alleys, many retail businesses remain closed and staff laid off.
Finally, its important to note, if your not aware, PUP rates have reduced substantially and further cuts occurring on 7th September. Only a small percentage still on PUP retain a €350 pw payment, the majority on €250 or less and its taxable. Also don't forget 1000"s of self employed still on PUP Albeit they can earn some income and retain PUP, PAYE can not earn a cent and if they do, lose PUP immediately. Its not as black & white as you may think
Is maith an scáthán súil charad.
That is not the reason the Irish government have given for introducing this system.
It has been brought in to protect the unvaccinated and prevent hospitalisations of unvaccinated.
If you think you are at risk I don't know what to say.
Do you have any science to back that up?
Australia is xenophobic pre-covid and a bit of a pig ignorant place, it isn't surprising to see them lap up the chance to shut their borders and blame foreigners for Covid.
Are you one of them? I don't have any intention of getting into a debate with an anti-vaxer.
On the evidence of these threads some could be described more accurately as individuals highly susceptible to misinformation and lies
Am I an antivaxer? No, I have loads of vaccines and am making sure my son gets his too.
Am I getting a covid vaccine? Maybe, too soon to tell. I typically like my drugs to have finished clinical trials before I inject them into my shoulder. If that’s selfish, then I’m selfish I guess.
This lie once more. They are finished the clinical trials required for approval. Be it EUA, CMA or otherwise. Phase 4 is post market and is there to monitor of the longer period while the product is on the market.
The options I listed are options for a pub.If there was a third option, it would be to allow a free for all but we already know what will happen with that. My choosing to go to a pub or not doesn't change the fact that if pubs want to open without creating another situation that necessitates another lockdown, they'll need to keep out the potential carriers.
And if everyone had your attitude where would we be? You're being selfish, plain and simple. You're letting everyone else take the vaccine while you sit back and watch it unfold. The irony being the bigger threat of catching covid doesn't seem to bother you all. You do you though.
They're nothing new. It's the same old song and dance for nearly 100 years. It's possible that they might be right this time but it's also possible that I could outrun Ussain Bolt.
EDIT: To address your point about vaccinated people being infectious, that's correct, they can be but it's to a much smaller extent. It's a bit like a fart in a elevator - in some cases, you won't smell anything and in other cases you'll panic and press the button for the next floor and get out of there. It's a question of scale and if you're going to be in an elevator and someone farts, you'll prefer the one that you can barely smell over the one that triggers a gag reflex.
No law on masks outdoors and a poster here said earlier that anyone who came inside to use a toilet wore a mask.