Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

namloc1980

130,000 people at the Austrian Grand Prix today. Obviously they haven't a clue what they are doing either and need to get onto NPHET quickly to learn the error of their ways.

Very similar Covid stats to Ireland except in testing. They do a lot more testing than here because they have embraced antigen tests.

bucketybuck

Graham wrote: »

Mission accomplished.

How ironic.

Micky 32

Micky 32 wrote: »

I see The RTE app reporting main headline 1 person out of the 4000 tested positive with an antigen test from the concert last night. Then a further PCR test was negative. Lol why is it even a headline?

Because it will allow Scare Byrne to have a whole radio show tomorrow devoted to getting large gatherings banned.

Case numbers rising. We will be back in some sort of lockdown by the august bank holiday.

prunudo

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Case numbers rising. We will be back in some sort of lockdown by the august bank holiday.

Why? We'll have well over 5m doses of vaccines done by then, over 40s full vaccinated and many 39-18 both one vaccine or fully vaccinated with Jansen.

UK continuing its plateau of Delta cases.

24,248 new cases and 15 deaths, both lower than yesterday.

This would be the equivalent of 1,865 new cases here with 1 death.

Tony can fook right off if he continues to propose keeping hospitality closed beyond 19 July.

namloc1980

Deleted User wrote: »

Case numbers rising. We will be back in some sort of lockdown by the august bank holiday.

Didn't you say earlier that social distancing and face masks are a small price to pay to avoid lockdowns? Throw in 4.5m vaccine doses, so why exactly would we need another lockdown*?

*Caveat: I think Tony and NPHET will very likely want another lockdown but it makes no sense given where we are at.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Case numbers rising. We will be back in some sort of lockdown by the august bank holiday.

It's quite incredible that there are still people trying to spread terror and sow uncertainty and nervousness.

There are fourteen people out of a population of five million requiring intensive care treatment.

You really need to let it go.

namloc1980 wrote: »

Didn't you say earlier that social distancing and face masks are a small price to pay to avoid lockdowns?

The extremists will always argue for lockdown. Their sabotage of the vaccination campaign to try and get another lockdown is disgusting.

Fils

I would imagine indoor dining 2022 is achievable.

Deeper Blue

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Case numbers rising. We will be back in some sort of lockdown by the august bank holiday.

Any update on all those reinfections in healthcare workers that you told us about last year?

is_that_so

eskimohunt wrote: »

UK continuing its plateau of Delta cases.

24,248 new cases and 15 deaths, both lower than yesterday.

This would be the equivalent of 1,865 new cases here with 1 death.

Yeah, there's been a hint of that over the last week. Another few days downward will set a trend.

is_that_so

Deleted User wrote: »

Case numbers rising. We will be back in some sort of lockdown by the august bank holiday.

It's still not much outside the range we've seen of 400-500 cases a day. Vaccinations and hospitalisations are all that matter now.

GiftofGab

namloc1980 wrote: »

Didn't you say earlier that social distancing and face masks are a small price to pay to avoid lockdowns? Throw in 4.5m vaccine doses, so why exactly would we need another lockdown*?

*Caveat: I think Tony and NPHET will very likely want another lockdown but it makes no sense given where we are at.

Yeah but who is going to stand up to Tony??

bloopy

eskimohunt wrote: »

UK continuing its plateau of Delta cases.

24,248 new cases and 15 deaths, both lower than yesterday.

This would be the equivalent of 1,865 new cases here with 1 death.

Tony can fook right off if he continues to propose keeping hospitality closed beyond 19 July.

Are there any theories as to why cases over there have plateaued? Is it just a blip or is it going to be longer term trend, I wonder.
Didn't the same thing happen in India?

gozunda

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

If you throw a starving man a sandwich, it's going to be the best sandwich he's ever had, no matter the content! Well, I don't know about that, but certainly we have a lot more in common culturally and otherwise with our nearest neighbours than we do with our EU overlords for whom we're an occasional thorn (corporation tax) and stick to beat the UK with (Brexit).To be fair, we have only been at the independence lark for just about 100 years I suppose. It shouldn't be surprising that we've largely made a balls of it so far (and keep trying to hand it back - first to the Church, then to the EU) with scandal after scandal since the foundation of the State, never-ending political incompetence, waste and corruption, and a population that largely doesn't think beyond their own driveway or how something will affect them personally. We're still very immature as a nation and this is reflected in the decisions made, the actions and attitudes of many, and our constant need for validation and approval from our "betters".

Leaving aside the hyperbole about sandwiches etc - using a derogatory term normally reserved as an anti Irish insult is a fairly ignorant thing all the same.

But one thing for sure - apparently we haven't left off with is the need for wilful self flagilation where some believe that the country and its people are without question the worst in the world and by extension everywhere else is somehow better. News for you - not so. And no - no one is saying things here are perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but a little perspective is always a useful thing.

ACitizenErased

Open to correction but is this the first weekend in a while with no big increase in hospitalisations? 47 last Sunday, 48 today.

Fils

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Open to correction but is this the first weekend in a while with no big increase in hospitalisations? 47 last Sunday, 48 today.

It’s an increase of 1.

is_that_so

GiftofGab wrote: »

Yeah but who is going to stand up to Tony??

They are on antigen testing and in principle on the digital cert idea.

ACitizenErased

Fils wrote: »

It’s an increase of 1.

That is indeed what I wrote yes

gozunda

[Deleted User] wrote: »

UK continuing its plateau of Delta cases.

24,248 new cases and 15 deaths, both lower than yesterday.

This would be the equivalent of 1,865 new cases here with 1 death.

Tony can fook right off if he continues to propose keeping hospitality closed beyond 19 July.

Here's how things are progressing atm in the UK. Reckon they've a way to go before seeing any plateau ...

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ACitizenErased

gozunda wrote: »

Here's how things are progressing atm in the UK. Reckon they've a way to go before seeing any plateau ...

UK's case graph currently looks like this:

You've posted the average, not case figures.

gozunda

ACitizenErased wrote: »

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You've posted the average, not case figures.

Indeed I did - I posted the rolling 7 day average for new cases. Wouldn't like to misrepresent the data now would we?

You can check it yourself on Our World in Data

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-kingdom#what-is-the-daily-number-of-confirmed-cases

ACitizenErased

gozunda wrote: »

Indeed I did - I posted the rolling 7 day average for new cases. Wouldn't like to misrepresent the data now would we?

You can check it yourself on Our World in Data

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-kingdom#what-is-the-daily-number-of-confirmed-cases

Rather than show the fact cases decreased 3/4 days in a row you posted a graph that showed the average going directly upwards.

The people desperately trying to spin the UK as some sort of charnel house to prove Tony is right is really quite something.

Deeper Blue

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Rather than show the fact cases decreased 3/4 days in a row you posted a graph that showed the average going directly upwards.

You obviously don't know the rules here, you need to choose the data representation that looks the scariest.

gozunda

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Rather than show the fact cases decreased 3/4 days in a row you posted a graph that showed the average going directly upwards.

And which do you believe is a more accurate visualisation of whats happening with covid infections there?

Btw the graph can also go down

landofthetree

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1411656173879693319

Finally Reid tells the truth. Our hospitals are a joke.

Van.Bosch

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Rather than show the fact cases decreased 3/4 days in a row you posted a graph that showed the average going directly upwards.

But for the last 18 months people have being saying, ignore daily figures, use the 7 day average to rule out day nuances etc. Using the 7 day average makes sense to me. In 2 or 3 days it will reflect the plateau of the last few days.

gozunda

b0nk1e wrote: »

The people desperately trying to spin the UK as some sort of charnel house to prove Tony is right is really quite something.

Well no - its just a graph showing data. I'd be way more concerned with those claiming there's nothing to see there at all ...

ACitizenErased

gozunda wrote: »

A which do you believe is more accurate visualisation of whats happening with covid infections there?

Btw the graph can also go down

The average is an accurate way of showing trends in certain contexts. Using it to dispute whether case figures are decreasing day after day over a small period of time is not one of those contexts. The figures don't lie, there have been consecutive decreases for the last 4 days running. The average won't reflect that for a number of days because it's a function of 5-7 days, not 24-72 hours.