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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Get off the high horse. They could have easily reported no positive cases at the festival. That works too. The headline was “one positive covid antigen test at pilot festival “

    And hide the element demonstrating the effectiveness of antigen testing for what reason?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Get off the high horse. They could have easily reported no positive cases at the festival. That works too. The headline was “one positive covid antigen test at pilot festival “ nice click bait

    Which is accurate reporting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Allinall wrote: »
    Which is accurate reporting.

    Yep while misleading headline. Sure it’s about the clicks…


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,951 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Graham wrote: »
    No. They didn't

    Not sure why there's a determined effort to misinterpret the headline for the purposes of being outraged by it.

    There was a (singular) positive test. That's exactly what the headline suggests.

    Why didn't the headline say "False positive antigen test result at pilot festival"?

    That question is not for you by the way, I already know you will be contrarian.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭the kelt


    They reported that a person did not have Covid 19, but used a headline that said that person was positive. Think about that.

    Anybody who denies that RTE is following a narrative is willfully ignorant.

    Because the vast vast majority of people don’t look past the headline so the headline itself is the key even though the main body of the item will verify the story properly.

    It’s how red top rags, sensationalist media outlets operate, ye know like the sun and the mail in the uk but it seems people in Ireland have no issues with our tax payer funded state media operating this same looking at the responses on here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,257 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Why didn't the headline say "False positive antigen test result at pilot festival"?

    That question is not for you by the way, I already know you will be contrarian.

    If they went with that headline you'd have people on here claiming it's rte pushing the narrative that antigen tests are unreliable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Yep while misleading headline. Sure it’s about the clicks…

    How can something be accurate and misleading?

    That’s just silly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,339 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Were at a stage where any negative stuff will be picked up by NPHET and used for there gain

    They will be content with that Anitgen Testing news


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,407 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    I see The RTE app reporting main headline 1 person out of the 4000 tested positive with an antigen test from the concert last night. Then a further PCR test was negative. Lol why is it even a headline?

    Because RTE

    I see they're still being defended by some. Laughable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,951 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    the kelt wrote: »
    Because the vast vast majority of people don’t look past the headline
    Exactly. The vast majority of people will see the headline and go away assuming that there were people with covid at the festival, evidence that covid is still out there waiting to pounce on them at any time.
    hynesie08 wrote: »
    If they went with that headline you'd have people on here claiming it's rte pushing the narrative that antigen tests are unreliable.

    Perhaps, maybe, probably. But crucially, the headline would at least be honest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Allinall wrote: »
    How can something be accurate and misleading?

    That’s just silly.

    No. It’s just you fail to see what RTE is up to. Probably suits your narrative. I think the only out rage on here is the fact it was pointed out.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Why didn't the headline say "False positive antigen test result at pilot festival"?

    Let's assume the main purpose of the headline is to get you to read the article.

    Did it work?

    Did you read it?

    Did you understand the sentence:

    "However, that person then took a PCR test, which later came back negative for Covid-19.".

    Was there any part of that sentence you think would confuse people?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,407 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Here's the RTE headline:

    "One positive Covid-19 antigen test at pilot festival"

    Yet it was a false positive.

    The headline is deliberately misleading. It's focusing on the negative which is what RTE have been doing for 18 months. How are people still not getting this? The evidence is there every single day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,951 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    How are people still not getting this? The evidence is there every single day.

    "None so blind as those that won't see."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭the kelt


    Graham wrote: »
    Let's assume the main purpose of the headline is to get you to read the article.

    Did it work?

    Did you read it?

    Did you understand the sentence:

    "However, that person then took a PCR test, which later came back negative for Covid-19.".

    Was there any part of that sentence you think would confuse people?

    On average 8 out of 10 people just read the headline with 2 bothering to read the main article.

    But RTE probably don’t even realise that, poor divils sure they’re only trying their best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭prunudo


    On a side note to the event in Kilmainham, I noticed they're not calling them test events anymore, they're now pilot events. I suppose given that they operate under so many guidelines I guess nothing worth while is being tested (excluding the entry test) so no harm in dropping the name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,257 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Here's the RTE headline:

    "One positive Covid-19 antigen test at pilot festival"

    Yet it was a false positive.

    The headline is deliberately misleading. It's focusing on the negative which is what RTE have been doing for 18 months. How are people still not getting this? The evidence is there every single day.

    But one positive antigen test was found at the festival......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,407 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    But one positive antigen test was found at the festival......

    But no positive cases. Which is what the headline should've been. It's not that difficult to grasp.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    the kelt wrote: »
    On average 8 out of 10 people just read the headline with 2 bothering to read the main article.

    and 11.83 out of every 12 statistics are made up.

    If someone can't be bothered to read beyond a headline I'm not sure there's much you can do to help them understand the contents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,503 ✭✭✭GiftofGab


    Was looking to get 2 tickets for taste of Dublin in September. Tickets are only for sale in a "pod of 6" or "pod of 4" - looks like this will similar to the 'pilot' event in Kilmainham. Not for me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I just don't know what planet RTE are on. Surely they don't believe the **** they are putting out. I know they are doing very well out of Covid advertising but surely people as individuals want to go back to some normality?

    The sham "Pilot Event" coverage was Uber positive. No comparisons to the lifting of restrictions elsewhere or the fact that they have been doing far more ambitious events elsewhere for months. I just don't understand what is in it for them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭Allinall


    the kelt wrote: »
    On average 8 out of 10 people just read the headline with 2 bothering to read the main article.

    …..,.,.

    How do you know this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Allinall wrote: »
    How can something be accurate and misleading?

    That’s just silly.
    One positive Covid-19 antigen test is accurate but incomplete.

    "One positive Covid-19 antigen test but PCR negative" is accurate and complete.

    You'd still click to read the article.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    But no positive cases. Which is what the headline should've been. It's not that difficult to grasp.

    Second sentence of the article.

    Really not that difficult to grasp.

    You have to laugh at the outrage from people that apparently can't be bothered reading beyond headlines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭the kelt


    Allinall wrote: »
    How do you know this?

    Basic marketing, social science to be honest, honestly presumed most people would be aware, obviously not or else wilful ignorance at play.

    Some say 70% others say more than 80%, general rule of thumb is only 1 in 5 read past the headline


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,407 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Graham wrote: »
    Second sentence of the article.

    Really not that difficult to grasp.

    Yawn.

    I'm talking about the headline
    Where did I mention the contents of the article?

    Again, this isn't difficult


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Graham wrote: »
    Second sentence of the article.

    Really not that difficult to grasp.

    You have to laugh at the outrage from people that apparently can't be bothered reading beyond headlines.
    You could always ignore them and not get twiggered on your high horse yourself! It's a pretty crap click bait headline BTW and not much of an article.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    is_that_so wrote: »
    You could always ignore them and not get twiggered on your high horse yourself! It's a pretty crap click bait headline BTW and not much of an article.

    and yet it's generated an enormous amount of conversation even here.

    Mission accomplished.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Graham wrote: »
    and yet it's generated an enormous amount of conversation even here.

    Mission accomplished.
    You really must have no life at all if this is an exciting point of your day! I'll leave you to game playing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Graham wrote: »
    No. They didn't

    Not sure why there's a determined effort to misinterpret the headline for the purposes of being outraged by it.

    There was a (singular) positive test. That's exactly what the headline suggests.

    I think you've hit the nail on the head there tbf.


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